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Russia has obtained definitive ownership rights to a church building in Nice under a ruling of France’s highest court on Wednesday, said members of the Russian Orthodox community in the Western European country...
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Re: Russia becomes definitive owner of cathedral building in Nice
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2013, 10:03:07 AM »
Russia has obtained definitive ownership rights to a church building in Nice under a ruling of France’s highest court on Wednesday, said members of the Russian Orthodox community in the Western European country...
I thought this was legally settled a while ago.

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Re: Russia becomes definitive owner of cathedral building in Nice
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2013, 11:04:51 AM »
What does this mean? Would it go under the ROCOR diocese of Geneva, or directly under the Diocese of Korsun for the Moscow Patriarchate? IMO it would be better for it to go to ROCOR, because that was the predecessor to the Russian Exarchate in Constantinople. Metropolitan Evlogy of Paris belonged to ROCOR before he formed the exarchate. Therefore the Nice Cathedral should be added to ROCOR.

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Re: Russia becomes definitive owner of cathedral building in Nice
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2013, 11:37:19 AM »
What does this mean? Would it go under the ROCOR diocese of Geneva, or directly under the Diocese of Korsun for the Moscow Patriarchate? IMO it would be better for it to go to ROCOR, because that was the predecessor to the Russian Exarchate in Constantinople. Metropolitan Evlogy of Paris belonged to ROCOR before he formed the exarchate. Therefore the Nice Cathedral should be added to ROCOR.
Once the court decides it belongs to the PoM and not the EP, it is an issue of the PoM who will administer it.  As ROCOR wasn't in communion with the PoM in the days before the exarchate, I doubt ROCOR will get it on that basis.
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Re: Russia becomes definitive owner of cathedral building in Nice
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2013, 12:11:01 PM »
The court action was taken on behalf of the Russian State versus the parish who had until recently administered the Cathedral.  The Russian state in turn have given the day to day administration over to the local diocese of the MP.

What does this mean? Would it go under the ROCOR diocese of Geneva, or directly under the Diocese of Korsun for the Moscow Patriarchate? IMO it would be better for it to go to ROCOR, because that was the predecessor to the Russian Exarchate in Constantinople. Metropolitan Evlogy of Paris belonged to ROCOR before he formed the exarchate. Therefore the Nice Cathedral should be added to ROCOR.
Once the court decides it belongs to the PoM and not the EP, it is an issue of the PoM who will administer it.  As ROCOR wasn't in communion with the PoM in the days before the exarchate, I doubt ROCOR will get it on that basis.
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