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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #135 on: September 16, 2013, 05:28:15 PM »
How did blacks get brought into this?  ???

I don't see them taking over the world any time soon either.

You people:

a.) Obviously don't understand anything about the logic of secret cabals.
b.) Never talk to black people.

You can't google anything about the first. But, in case you ever run across something you think is "cryptic", it is probably just so obviously even google understands me.
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« Reply #136 on: September 16, 2013, 05:34:24 PM »
There was a black guy on the same bus as me today, and we were both listening to mp3/ipods... does that count?

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« Reply #137 on: September 16, 2013, 05:47:57 PM »
There was a black guy on the same bus as me today, and we were both listening to mp3/ipods... does that count?

Ask him about the Illuminati.

Enjoy! Urban black conspiracy theories are way more interesting and timely than those of the milktoast variety.
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #138 on: September 16, 2013, 05:48:05 PM »
There was a black guy on the same bus as me today, and we were both listening to mp3/ipods... does that count?

Did you sense that:

a.) he was going to take over the world?
b.) he had a strong opinion on the masonic secret cabals?
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« Reply #139 on: September 16, 2013, 06:50:48 PM »
Ask him about the Illuminati.

Enjoy! Urban black conspiracy theories are way more interesting and timely than those of the milktoast variety.

Did you sense that:

a.) he was going to take over the world?
b.) he had a strong opinion on the masonic secret cabals?

I thought you guys were just messin around. Then I saw this video moments ago. Maybe you guys are right about strange things going on here...
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #140 on: September 16, 2013, 07:33:58 PM »
Ask him about the Illuminati.

Enjoy! Urban black conspiracy theories are way more interesting and timely than those of the milktoast variety.

Did you sense that:

a.) he was going to take over the world?
b.) he had a strong opinion on the masonic secret cabals?

I thought you guys were just messin around. Then I saw this video moments ago. Maybe you guys are right about strange things going on here...

That's what happens when you eat your phone. 

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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #141 on: September 17, 2013, 06:46:35 AM »
A secret society is a SECRET society. No one can get an accurate knowledge on them unless the person is one of them. Plus if it is true that they worship the devil, then they can lie to protect their secret because the devil is a lier and motivator of all evil and lying is evil.

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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #142 on: September 17, 2013, 07:55:14 AM »
A secret society is a SECRET society. No one can get an accurate knowledge on them unless the person is one of them. Plus if it is true that they worship the devil, then they can lie to protect their secret because the devil is a lier and motivator of all evil and lying is evil.
What if a member decides he no longer wants to be a member and bails and tells the world that the SECRET society is really just a bunch of misogynist old men who sit around and grumble about the good ol' days and come up with weird handshakes?
Guys! They're not intercoursing. It's just an unfortunate angle.

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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #143 on: September 17, 2013, 07:59:17 AM »
A secret society is a SECRET society. No one can get an accurate knowledge on them unless the person is one of them. Plus if it is true that they worship the devil, then they can lie to protect their secret because the devil is a lier and motivator of all evil and lying is evil.
What if a member decides he no longer wants to be a member and bails and tells the world that the SECRET society is really just a bunch of misogynist old men who sit around and grumble about the good ol' days and come up with weird handshakes?
Doesn't he get disemboweled and tongue cut out?  They take an oath to Baphomet, right?
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #144 on: September 17, 2013, 08:02:34 AM »
A secret society is a SECRET society. No one can get an accurate knowledge on them unless the person is one of them. Plus if it is true that they worship the devil, then they can lie to protect their secret because the devil is a lier and motivator of all evil and lying is evil.
What if a member decides he no longer wants to be a member and bails and tells the world that the SECRET society is really just a bunch of misogynist old men who sit around and grumble about the good ol' days and come up with weird handshakes?
Doesn't he get disemboweled and tongue cut out?  They take an oath to Baphomet, right?
I don't know, I'll have to go ask him if he experienced either of those things.  ;D
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« Reply #145 on: September 17, 2013, 08:13:10 AM »
A secret society is a SECRET society. No one can get an accurate knowledge on them unless the person is one of them. Plus if it is true that they worship the devil, then they can lie to protect their secret because the devil is a lier and motivator of all evil and lying is evil.
What if a member decides he no longer wants to be a member and bails and tells the world that the SECRET society is really just a bunch of misogynist old men who sit around and grumble about the good ol' days and come up with weird handshakes?

 :)
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« Reply #146 on: September 18, 2013, 10:00:26 AM »
A secret society is a SECRET society. No one can get an accurate knowledge on them unless the person is one of them. Plus if it is true that they worship the devil, then they can lie to protect their secret because the devil is a lier and motivator of all evil and lying is evil.
What if a member decides he no longer wants to be a member and bails and tells the world that the SECRET society is really just a bunch of misogynist old men who sit around and grumble about the good ol' days and come up with weird handshakes?

 :)
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,51585.msg926539.html#msg926539

That's me. I am happy to answer any questions.

I think it is wrong to call the organization misogynist.

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« Reply #147 on: September 18, 2013, 10:04:08 AM »
If the freemasons are gonna take over the world, they better get a move on it.  Almost all of them are over 80 yrs old and pretty decrepit.

You obviously never talk to black people.

in some states, such as TN, black men can not join the Lodge. They instead have to join a Prince Hall Lodge that also is not recognized by those states

Absolutely false.

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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #148 on: September 18, 2013, 10:05:18 AM »
A secret society is a SECRET society. No one can get an accurate knowledge on them unless the person is one of them. Plus if it is true that they worship the devil, then they can lie to protect their secret because the devil is a lier and motivator of all evil and lying is evil.
What if a member decides he no longer wants to be a member and bails and tells the world that the SECRET society is really just a bunch of misogynist old men who sit around and grumble about the good ol' days and come up with weird handshakes?

 :)
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,51585.msg926539.html#msg926539

That's me. I am happy to answer any questions.

I think it is wrong to call the organization misogynist.
I did not mean to imply that they were, but I could see how a disgruntled former member might make the accusation. Far worse accusations have been made.  :P  My comment was not referencing your thread in any way.
Guys! They're not intercoursing. It's just an unfortunate angle.

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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #149 on: September 18, 2013, 10:53:27 AM »
If the freemasons are gonna take over the world, they better get a move on it.  Almost all of them are over 80 yrs old and pretty decrepit.

You obviously never talk to black people.

in some states, such as TN, black men can not join the Lodge. They instead have to join a Prince Hall Lodge that also is not recognized by those states

Absolutely false.

I wish that it were false, but as I have stated previously in this thread it is not.
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« Reply #150 on: September 18, 2013, 11:34:48 AM »
Gay clubs have often had to bear the mantle of misogyny true or otherwise.
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #151 on: September 18, 2013, 12:56:26 PM »

What is this?

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« Reply #152 on: September 18, 2013, 01:03:43 PM »
Guys! They're not intercoursing. It's just an unfortunate angle.

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« Reply #153 on: September 18, 2013, 01:06:38 PM »
Is Illuminati even a real organization? As far as I know, the Bavarian Illuminati were wiped out out in 1785 and I haven't seen any real evidence that they exist in our time.
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« Reply #154 on: September 18, 2013, 01:33:06 PM »
If the freemasons are gonna take over the world, they better get a move on it.  Almost all of them are over 80 yrs old and pretty decrepit.

You obviously never talk to black people.

in some states, such as TN, black men can not join the Lodge. They instead have to join a Prince Hall Lodge that also is not recognized by those states

Absolutely false.

I wish that it were false, but as I have stated previously in this thread it is not.

I know what you stated. I am saying that what you stated was false. Repeating yourself will not change that.

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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #156 on: September 18, 2013, 02:16:12 PM »
As I have stated previously, I'm pretty sure the Tower of London is going to be devoured by a Tyrannosaurus Rex and all you bumbleheads are doing is sitting around and letting it happen.  I know this to be true because I have a picture of it.
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« Reply #157 on: September 18, 2013, 02:33:21 PM »
As I have stated previously, I'm pretty sure the Tower of London is going to be devoured by a Tyrannosaurus Rex and all you bumbleheads are doing is sitting around and letting it happen.  I know this to be true because I have a picture of it.

Umm... wasn't that Big Ben?
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« Reply #158 on: September 18, 2013, 02:39:11 PM »
I stand corrected.  The clock is Big Ben.  I was meaning to reference the tower which is the Elizabeth Tower at the Palace of Westminster, but incorrectly called it the Tower of London.
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« Reply #159 on: September 18, 2013, 02:42:48 PM »
I stand corrected.  The clock is Big Ben.  I was meaning to reference the tower which is the Elizabeth Tower at the Palace of Westminster, but incorrectly called it the Tower of London.

Oh well, as long as there is a Tyrannosaurus Rex, I'm happy. :)
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #160 on: September 18, 2013, 02:49:18 PM »
If the freemasons are gonna take over the world, they better get a move on it.  Almost all of them are over 80 yrs old and pretty decrepit.

You obviously never talk to black people.

in some states, such as TN, black men can not join the Lodge. They instead have to join a Prince Hall Lodge that also is not recognized by those states

Absolutely false.

I wish that it were false, but as I have stated previously in this thread it is not.

I know what you stated. I am saying that what you stated was false. Repeating yourself will not change that.

So you're telling me that my friends and coworkers lied to me? Why would they make that up? Why would I have a black friend tell me that he tried to join a lodge here in TN only to find out that they don't allow blacks in, so he joined a Prince Hall lodge? Why would I have a white friend tell me that he was distressed because he was not able help one his black friends join the lodge? I guess we're all just a bunch of racists around these parts!

Everybody must just be full or lies around here.  ::)
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« Reply #161 on: September 18, 2013, 02:53:30 PM »
^You do realize that there is more than one Lodge in the state of Tennesee right? What may occur in one Lodge doesn't mean all other Lodges are like that. Or even that they condone the behavior.


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« Reply #162 on: September 18, 2013, 03:15:21 PM »
Is Illuminati even a real organization? As far as I know, the Bavarian Illuminati were wiped out out in 1785 and I haven't seen any real evidence that they exist in our time.
That's what they want you to think.

BTW, I have a black friend too.  He doesn't lie to me.  I think.
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« Reply #163 on: September 18, 2013, 03:22:18 PM »
^You do realize that there is more than one Lodge in the state of Tennesee right? What may occur in one Lodge doesn't mean all other Lodges are like that. Or even that they condone the behavior.



Yes, I realize that. The Lodges operate under the Grand Lodge A&FM of TN. This is not something that happens at just one lodge, this is all lodges under the Grand Lodge of TN, from what my friends have told me. So, since these people are my friends and coworkers I will believe what they say until I can see proof of a black man in a non Prince Hall lodge in the state of Tennessee.
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« Reply #164 on: September 18, 2013, 03:24:27 PM »
^You do realize that there is more than one Lodge in the state of Tennesee right? What may occur in one Lodge doesn't mean all other Lodges are like that. Or even that they condone the behavior.



Yes, I realize that. The Lodges operate under the Grand Lodge A&FM of TN. This is not something that happens at just one lodge, this is all lodges under the Grand Lodge of TN, from what my friends have told me. So, since these people are my friends and coworkers I will believe what they say until I can see proof of a black man in a non Prince Hall lodge in the state of Tennessee.
You must have a lot of friends, because there are a lot of Blue lodges in Tennessee.
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« Reply #165 on: September 18, 2013, 04:23:19 PM »
^You do realize that there is more than one Lodge in the state of Tennesee right? What may occur in one Lodge doesn't mean all other Lodges are like that. Or even that they condone the behavior.



Yes, I realize that. The Lodges operate under the Grand Lodge A&FM of TN. This is not something that happens at just one lodge, this is all lodges under the Grand Lodge of TN, from what my friends have told me. So, since these people are my friends and coworkers I will believe what they say until I can see proof of a black man in a non Prince Hall lodge in the state of Tennessee.
You must have a lot of friends, because there are a lot of Blue lodges in Tennessee.

Not all of the Masons I know are from the same lodges. A few years back when I was thinking of joining my roommate told me that blacks were not allowed in, his lodge was almost in West TN. One of my closest friends who I used to do military funerals with told me that blacks were not allowed in, his lodge is in Middle TN. Another friend of mine who did funeral with me as well (he passed shortly after I returned from my first deployment) told me the same. Another of my friends told me the same thing, his lodge is in Clarksville. One of my black friends told me the same thing and his Prince Hall lodge was in somewhere in Middle TN. Another of my black friends told me the same thing and his Prince Hall lodge is in Clarksville. The father of one of my friends told me the same thing and his lodge is in East TN.

Then there are the funerals I have been a part of to render Military Honors. A number of those Veterans were Masons and had the Masonic service. The Masons I met at those funerals told me the same thing, and none of those funerals were all from the same lodge.

Let us not forget also the random Mason I just happen to meet either at work or out and about who all tell me the same thing.

Oh, and then there is one of the friends of my father-in-law who until last year was the Grand Secretary. He also told me the same thing.

I guess all of these people could be mistaken though.
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #166 on: September 18, 2013, 04:45:23 PM »
Is Illuminati even a real organization? As far as I know, the Bavarian Illuminati were wiped out out in 1785 and I haven't seen any real evidence that they exist in our time.

That's the cover story......

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« Reply #167 on: September 18, 2013, 05:42:01 PM »
^You do realize that there is more than one Lodge in the state of Tennesee right? What may occur in one Lodge doesn't mean all other Lodges are like that. Or even that they condone the behavior.



Yes, I realize that. The Lodges operate under the Grand Lodge A&FM of TN. This is not something that happens at just one lodge, this is all lodges under the Grand Lodge of TN, from what my friends have told me. So, since these people are my friends and coworkers I will believe what they say until I can see proof of a black man in a non Prince Hall lodge in the state of Tennessee.
You must have a lot of friends, because there are a lot of Blue lodges in Tennessee.

Not all of the Masons I know are from the same lodges. A few years back when I was thinking of joining my roommate told me that blacks were not allowed in, his lodge was almost in West TN. One of my closest friends who I used to do military funerals with told me that blacks were not allowed in, his lodge is in Middle TN. Another friend of mine who did funeral with me as well (he passed shortly after I returned from my first deployment) told me the same. Another of my friends told me the same thing, his lodge is in Clarksville. One of my black friends told me the same thing and his Prince Hall lodge was in somewhere in Middle TN. Another of my black friends told me the same thing and his Prince Hall lodge is in Clarksville. The father of one of my friends told me the same thing and his lodge is in East TN.

Then there are the funerals I have been a part of to render Military Honors. A number of those Veterans were Masons and had the Masonic service. The Masons I met at those funerals told me the same thing, and none of those funerals were all from the same lodge.

Let us not forget also the random Mason I just happen to meet either at work or out and about who all tell me the same thing.

Oh, and then there is one of the friends of my father-in-law who until last year was the Grand Secretary. He also told me the same thing.

I guess all of these people could be mistaken though.
Moral of the story is, you need to stop hanging around so many Masons.
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #168 on: September 18, 2013, 05:42:36 PM »
It's a group of weirdo, middle-aged White neo-Randian men who play boardgames in their basement; I don't think they are much of a threat.

I beg to differ.  I believe it's a very powerful organization.  Their symbols are everywhere including on the dollar bill, music videos, cartoons, and yes, even Orthodox churches. 

Videos such as "not myself tonight", where a sick bdsm singer sands on a pyramid with a yellow emphasis on the eye.... Videos such as "die young" by Ke$ha, clearly show the symbolism in many places.... Mylea Cyrus has an illuminati eye tattoo on her finger.......  All these singers are dragging young kids into destruction.

I totally believe it is a very real and powerful organization.  While I have no idea it completely controls the government, I do believe it has a powerful influence on the media and people in power.

No doubt the "moon landing" was filmed in the basement of one of their lodges while the celebrities of the day were in line for their secret tattoos and comp. copy of "Secret Handshakes and Funny Hats" with the introduction by Geo. Washington.

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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #169 on: September 18, 2013, 05:47:59 PM »
To dominate the world and amke us believe in satanism?

In that case, they are doing a horrible job. Jehovah's Witnesses are doing better than them.

They are actually doing a great job.  The idea of satanism is to become god of one's self, as lucifer did.  This is also the basis of atheism - that if somebody does what they want, there is no punishment or reward eternally.   This is also taught by crowley, "do what thy wilt".

As stated, go to youtube and watch "die young" by Ke$ha.  65 million views.  Full of anti-Christian values, upside down crosses, all seeing eyes.

Go to youtube and watch "we can't stop" by Mylea cyrus with over 400 million views.   "Do what I want" over and over again on the songs.  All seeing eye tattoo on her finger.

This stuff is real.  The objective is to bring people into eternal damnation.
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #170 on: September 18, 2013, 05:55:25 PM »
To dominate the world and amke us believe in satanism?

In that case, they are doing a horrible job. Jehovah's Witnesses are doing better than them.

They are actually doing a great job.  The idea of satanism is to become god of one's self, as lucifer did.  This is also the basis of atheism - that if somebody does what they want, there is no punishment or reward eternally.   This is also taught by crowley, "do what thy wilt".

As stated, go to youtube and watch "die young" by Ke$ha.  65 million views.  Full of anti-Christian values, upside down crosses, all seeing eyes.

Go to youtube and watch "we can't stop" by Mylea cyrus with over 400 million views.   "Do what I want" over and over again on the songs.  All seeing eye tattoo on her finger.

This stuff is real.  The objective is to bring people into eternal damnation.

There is absolutely no proof that any of these people have any connections to Masonry, no matter how unchristian their music videos may be.

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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #172 on: September 18, 2013, 06:12:14 PM »
To dominate the world and amke us believe in satanism?

In that case, they are doing a horrible job. Jehovah's Witnesses are doing better than them.

They are actually doing a great job.  The idea of satanism is to become god of one's self, as lucifer did.  This is also the basis of atheism - that if somebody does what they want, there is no punishment or reward eternally.   This is also taught by crowley, "do what thy wilt".

As stated, go to youtube and watch "die young" by Ke$ha.  65 million views.  Full of anti-Christian values, upside down crosses, all seeing eyes.

Go to youtube and watch "we can't stop" by Mylea cyrus with over 400 million views.   "Do what I want" over and over again on the songs.  All seeing eye tattoo on her finger.

This stuff is real.  The objective is to bring people into eternal damnation.

There is absolutely no proof that any of these people have any connections to Masonry, no matter how unchristian their music videos may be.



Except the fact their videos are loaded with masonic symbolism, along with illuminati symbolism (which by the way, the illuminati & freemasonry are intertwined.    We aren't talking about Uncle Joe that belongs to the lodge masonry either... (which is still wrong).  We are talking about elite masons here.
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #173 on: September 18, 2013, 06:24:25 PM »
To dominate the world and amke us believe in satanism?

In that case, they are doing a horrible job. Jehovah's Witnesses are doing better than them.

They are actually doing a great job.  The idea of satanism is to become god of one's self, as lucifer did.  This is also the basis of atheism - that if somebody does what they want, there is no punishment or reward eternally.   This is also taught by crowley, "do what thy wilt".

As stated, go to youtube and watch "die young" by Ke$ha.  65 million views.  Full of anti-Christian values, upside down crosses, all seeing eyes.

Go to youtube and watch "we can't stop" by Mylea cyrus with over 400 million views.   "Do what I want" over and over again on the songs.  All seeing eye tattoo on her finger.

This stuff is real.  The objective is to bring people into eternal damnation.

There is absolutely no proof that any of these people have any connections to Masonry, no matter how unchristian their music videos may be.



Except the fact their videos are loaded with masonic symbolism, along with illuminati symbolism (which by the way, the illuminati & freemasonry are intertwined.    We aren't talking about Uncle Joe that belongs to the lodge masonry either... (which is still wrong).  We are talking about elite masons here.

Many masonic symbols are something, which the masons adopted from the surrounding culture. Lots of lodges and fraternities did that, not just the masons. But let us imagine that there does exist a secret masonic elite who seeks to lead the world astray. Why are they putting their symbols all over the place if their goal is to remain hidden? Wouldn't it be smarter to just make the music videos without the symbols, in order to avoid everything that could connect them to the videos?

Besides, how big are the chances that a random person, who happens to be watching these videos, will recognize or even notice those symbols? Most people outside the internet are largely ignorant of freemasonry and the symbols they use.

The whole idea just seems incredibly illogical.
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #174 on: September 18, 2013, 06:28:32 PM »
To dominate the world and amke us believe in satanism?

In that case, they are doing a horrible job. Jehovah's Witnesses are doing better than them.

They are actually doing a great job.  The idea of satanism is to become god of one's self, as lucifer did.  This is also the basis of atheism - that if somebody does what they want, there is no punishment or reward eternally.   This is also taught by crowley, "do what thy wilt".

As stated, go to youtube and watch "die young" by Ke$ha.  65 million views.  Full of anti-Christian values, upside down crosses, all seeing eyes.

Go to youtube and watch "we can't stop" by Mylea cyrus with over 400 million views.   "Do what I want" over and over again on the songs.  All seeing eye tattoo on her finger.

This stuff is real.  The objective is to bring people into eternal damnation.

There is absolutely no proof that any of these people have any connections to Masonry, no matter how unchristian their music videos may be.



Except the fact their videos are loaded with masonic symbolism, along with illuminati symbolism (which by the way, the illuminati & freemasonry are intertwined.    We aren't talking about Uncle Joe that belongs to the lodge masonry either... (which is still wrong).  We are talking about elite masons here.

Many masonic symbols are something, which the masons adopted from the surrounding culture. Lots of lodges and fraternities did that, not just the masons. But let us imagine that there does exist a secret masonic elite who seeks to lead the world astray. Why are they putting their symbols all over the place if their goal is to remain hidden? Wouldn't it be smarter to just make the music videos without the symbols, in order to avoid everything that could connect them to the videos?

Besides, how big are the chances that a random person, who happens to be watching these videos, will recognize or even notice those symbols? Most people outside the internet are largely ignorant of freemasonry and the symbols they use.

The whole idea just seems incredibly illogical.

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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #175 on: September 18, 2013, 06:43:58 PM »
To dominate the world and amke us believe in satanism?

In that case, they are doing a horrible job. Jehovah's Witnesses are doing better than them.

They are actually doing a great job.  The idea of satanism is to become god of one's self, as lucifer did.  This is also the basis of atheism - that if somebody does what they want, there is no punishment or reward eternally.   This is also taught by crowley, "do what thy wilt".

As stated, go to youtube and watch "die young" by Ke$ha.  65 million views.  Full of anti-Christian values, upside down crosses, all seeing eyes.

Go to youtube and watch "we can't stop" by Mylea cyrus with over 400 million views.   "Do what I want" over and over again on the songs.  All seeing eye tattoo on her finger.

This stuff is real.  The objective is to bring people into eternal damnation.

There is absolutely no proof that any of these people have any connections to Masonry, no matter how unchristian their music videos may be.



Except the fact their videos are loaded with masonic symbolism, along with illuminati symbolism (which by the way, the illuminati & freemasonry are intertwined.    We aren't talking about Uncle Joe that belongs to the lodge masonry either... (which is still wrong).  We are talking about elite masons here.

Many masonic symbols are something, which the masons adopted from the surrounding culture. Lots of lodges and fraternities did that, not just the masons. But let us imagine that there does exist a secret masonic elite who seeks to lead the world astray. Why are they putting their symbols all over the place if their goal is to remain hidden? Wouldn't it be smarter to just make the music videos without the symbols, in order to avoid everything that could connect them to the videos?

Besides, how big are the chances that a random person, who happens to be watching these videos, will recognize or even notice those symbols? Most people outside the internet are largely ignorant of freemasonry and the symbols they use.

The whole idea just seems incredibly illogical.

I don't know why, but they are getting more bold as the years pass.   Look at how outrageous the video have gotten compared to years past?  People like Ozzy Osborne were considered "outrageous" in the 1980's, and a few photos exist of him with upside down crosses etc.  He was fringe in ways... As was Marylin Manson.

Today the largest artists are presenting this ideology in their lyrics and symbols.  Ke$ha, Lady gaga, Cyrus, Kayne West - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccPm3CdP3Uo, and many other artists, and in many movies.

Not to be insulting to anybody in particular... But sometimes I wonder how some of you believe in God.  When there is such blatant obvious in your face proof of these symbols and teachings being broadcasted to MILLIONS of people..... Yet it is denied.

Yet one will proclaim faith in God through ancient scriptures... Some with not known authors.

Look, this is very real.  There are a lot of lines being drawn in the sand right now.  Many world economies are on the verge of collapse.  One world currency could be on our doorstep soon.  Morals & families are shrinking fast... Atheism is at an all time high.  Gays are openly marrying, wars and rumors of wars...

I run a farm, and people are buying up my young livestock like crazy preparing for the end times.  It's actually very scary to see the volume of people coming to buy and start their farming.  Many of like-minded belief.
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #176 on: September 18, 2013, 06:46:44 PM »
Look, this is very real.  There are a lot of lines being drawn in the sand right now.  Many world economies are on the verge of collapse.  One world currency could be on our doorstep soon.  Morals & families are shrinking fast... Atheism is at an all time high.  Gays are openly marrying, wars and rumors of wars...

I run a farm, and people are buying up my young livestock like crazy preparing for the end times.  It's actually very scary to see the volume of people coming to buy and start their farming.  Many of like-minded belief.

Oh, I agree, this is very scary. 
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #177 on: September 18, 2013, 06:47:27 PM »
It's been getting worse from day one if you believe everyone who has gotten old enough in spirit to complain about stuff they don't understand.

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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #178 on: September 18, 2013, 06:48:20 PM »
You are very easily manipulated, Yourshoeisayam. If there were a Satanic world order running things, you would be one of the first to fall for it.

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« Reply #179 on: September 18, 2013, 06:58:56 PM »
Look, this is very real.  There are a lot of lines being drawn in the sand right now.  Many world economies are on the verge of collapse.  One world currency could be on our doorstep soon.  Morals & families are shrinking fast... Atheism is at an all time high.  Gays are openly marrying, wars and rumors of wars...

I run a farm, and people are buying up my young livestock like crazy preparing for the end times.  It's actually very scary to see the volume of people coming to buy and start their farming.  Many of like-minded belief.

Oh, I agree, this is very scary. 

We have a 280 egg incubator that is EMPTY right now (it never is) because people have bought up all the chicks, and also people are after hatching eggs.  We have a private incubator with 45 eggs for our family.  We had to stop taking orders.  All the baby goats are GONE.  People are even calling wanting to know if we sell large quantities of veggies for them to can (in jars).

We are also getting calls about people wanting to buy goat shares.  This is where they own a fraction of a goat, thus will own a part of the milk.  Reason why: "I'm afraid that the grocery store shelves will be empty soon..." - "I don't trust the economy to last...".     Unfortunately, we don't sell goat shares. (only legal way to let people take raw milk).   We just have it for family use.

I'd say 80-85% all talk about being scared what is coming to this country.  Many have never owned any livestock before.

It's not really selling that bothers me.  It's the types that are buying that are disturbing.  These are suburban living people.  They want 6-8 chickens at a time.  Usually we'd do big orders like 100-150 for other farmers.  But these folks seem scared and concerned, and "need to start raising food".

I don't know what's going to happen... I do know the symbolisms of the illuminati is all over the place.  I do know the satanic motto "do what thy wilt" is practically everywhere (in so many words).   

In my opinion, this is a time for the strongest faith possible...  I hope some of you are preparing.
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