Thank you for explaining it,from what ive read and from what ive heard of them is two different stories. By the sound of it, they are just a nice society that help each other out as well as do charity and try to improve the communities etc.
I believe that there was an issue of The Word magazine back in the early 90's wherein it said that Freemasonry and the Antiochian Church were not incompatible or some such thing. I wish I could find that article again...Why would a Christian, or Orthodox for that matter, want to join Freemasons? What's the gain?
Also, there may be a few posters on this site who are Orthodox and Freemasons (I know of at least one who asked his priest if he could be a Mason and Orthodox and the priest did not have a problem; this was in the GOAA IIRC)
The fellow I was referring to was a Mason before he became Orthodox. He had heard and read all of the stuff forbidding Freemasonry and asked his priest. The priest had no problem with the guy being a Mason and Orthodox.
As to why a Christian, Orthodox or otherwise would want to be a Freemason... Well, AFAIK, in the Blue Lodge (first 3 degrees) there is nothing opposing Christian doctrine. The Scottish Rite (which is an appellant body*) I do not know, but I have heard that there is plenty of Jewish and Arabic type stuff. The York Rite (another appellant body) actually has a path in which one must be a Christian to follow (this ends with the Knights Templar - not the actual one that was destroyed). In the US I can understand Orthodox wanting to be involved in a fraternity such as the Masons as there are not many Orthodox fraternities (and the ones I have found are not very wide spread).
There are some perks of being a Mason, such as maybe making a few friends in different industries, being able to get a job, getting out of a speeding ticket, etc. However it should be noted that while Masons do help out their fellow brothers they are also expected to help out their fellow humans. One of their core beliefs, if you will, is the charity of all mankind.
Also, the only "mystic" type stuff is in their degrees, which is very similar to most college fraternities, their monthly meetings are business meetings after they have dinner. Seriously, they open and have a reading of the previous months minutes, then they ask about new business (collecting dues, paying for a widows' electric bill, mowing the lawn of a disabled vet, etc) then they close.
If you have any more questions please feel free to ask (pm or otherwise). I have studied Freemasonry in depth for many years.
They are accepting of other religions which is nice, so why are they considered to be a "secret society" if anyone can join?
Why are they thought of behind Zionism if they accept different religions?
Also, why a LOT of people are wary of them and there is a feeling of a dislike towards them?
They seem to be a nice enough organisation, but again a lot of people are suspicious of them.There is no smoke without fire..
there is nothing nice to come from a secret society, anyone who doesn't think these secret societies control the world, are of the devil and want to destroy mankind are naive and don't know what they are talking about...
"Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!"
[Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, p. 321, 19th Degree of Grand Pontiff; Red Emphasis added]
Masons from the first initiation which is the first degree are urged to mightily "seek the Light!" The average Mason is continually saying that he is "seeking the Light," and will spend his entire life "moving toward the Light."
People who haven't studied this subject would assume that this "Light" is the revelation of the God of the Bible. This statement is continuously held up to try to convince us that Masonry is Christian. In the above quote, Albert Pike is saying that Lucifer is the One who bears the Light of Freemasonry.
Concrete evidence is then given by Pike of Freemason's worship of Satan/Lucifer on the very front of the cover of Morals and Dogma. Pike writes a Latin phrase just below the round seal of "God," this is a phrase proven to be Satanic.
Any "Satanic brother" looking at this phrase would know that the contents of this book are Satanic. They would also understand that the entire religion of Freemasonry is Satanic.
"DEUS MEUMQUE JUS" is this phrase. The literal meaning is "God and My Right"
Doc Marquis says this statement is a typical one within Satanism. There is one meaning within another with this statement. The first meaning is that the Freemason can depend upon their God to determine their Right and Justice. The second meaning is, since the God of Freemasonry is Lucifer, Masons are saying that they are "using occult methods," through Lucifer, to achieve their Rights and Justice. This phrase is very powerful and dangerous within Satanism says Marquis. A Satanist knows the content within Pike's book is Satanism just by reading, "DEUS MEUMQUE JUS." They don't even have to read the book, just the phrase to know.
Firstly, Pike never spoke for the whole of Freemasonry. No body ever speaks for the whole of Masonry. It would be very hard for any one person to do so seeing as how rites and some words can change from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Also, these guys can't even vote on what to eat from month to month, or to change the carpet, let alone try to rule the world.
If some one did speak for Freemasonry who would it be? The Grand Master of England? The Grand Master of Ireland? What about the Grand Master of Tennessee? (I mention a state because there is no Grand Master of North America).
Second, Pike was in charge of the Southern jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite. I mention this to show that he was not in charge of Freemasonry. The Scottish Rite is known as an appellant body, meaning that it is not necessary to go through the Scottish Rite, it is its own separate entity, however one must be a Mason to join the Scottish Rite. The Scottish Rite has no authority over Freemasonry in the least. In fact the Grand Lodge of Arkansas recently cut ties with the Scottish Rite there because the SR was still receiving demitted members (those who haven't paid their dues) of Freemasonry.
The Scottish Rite in the Southern part of the US is different from the Scottish Rite in the North. Both are different from Scottish Rites in other areas. These differences include name of degrees and what is learned in each degree. Very hard for all of them to get together and rule the world when they can't even agree on the simple things.
Thirdly, all one has to do is actually read Morals and Dogma to see that Pike is not extolling Satan, rather the opposite in fact. He says that it is strange that the name Lucifer would be used for the Prince of Darkness seeing as how the later means Light Bearer. He is pretty much trying to reclaim the name Lucifer for the Messiah.
And finally, the Freemasons are not a secret society! Anybody who believes in a higher power can join (and in some countries that is not even required). Want to know what happens behind closed doors? Then join, if you feel like they are trying to get you to sacrifice to Basphomet then leave. No matter what they will respect you for your decision.
Don't want to join and "risk your soul" (or it is banned by your church)? Then look online and find all of the secret handshakes and passwords and degree work. Once you do that you will know the secrets of Freemasonry.
You will know that the third degree is an allegory and lesson to be patient and not greedy. You will learn of the death of Hiram Abiff because you will take on his role. Then, your brothers will explain to you that, although Hiram Abiff died and took the password of a Master Mason to the grave with him, they will symbolically raise you so you may be joined fully to your fellow brothers (fully here meaning that you have all the rights and benefits of a Master Mason, such as wearing a ring, wearing an apron how you please, funeral honors, putting a decal on your car, etc. Not that you are now so fully joined to them that you can never escape).
Oh, and one more thing, there is a part of the York Rite (another appellant body) that you have to be a confessing Christian (trinitarian, regular churchgoer, etc) to even go through.
Edit:: Lucifer can't be that bad of a name if there is a St. Lucifer recognized by the Roman Church.