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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #540 on: March 01, 2014, 03:34:58 AM »

Reasoning from the Scriptures with Masons, by Ron Rhodes.

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Illuminati & WWIII - 'Ordo Ab Chao' (Order Out of Chaos)
« Reply #541 on: March 07, 2014, 05:58:04 PM »
The Motto of the 33 degree: 'Ordo Ab Chao'
  
As has been shown from the official declarations of the Church, Freemasonry/Illuminism is a global religion with global designs.  In preparing the way for the Antichrist, the old order must be destroyed through war and global upheaval.   Out of this will arise the new order, the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem and the arrival of their false Christ.

The aim of Judeo-Masonic ambitions is confirmed by the holy Fathers -
'Above all, moreover, he will love the nation of the Jews. And with all these he will work signs and terrible wonders, false wonders and not true, in order to deceive his impious equals. . . . And after that he will build the temple in Jerusalem and will restore it again speedily and give it over to the Jews" (Discourse on the End of the World 23-25 [A.D. 217]). St. Hippolytus  

luciferian pheonix rising from the burning of the old order with illuminist symbols in backdrop

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« Reply #542 on: March 07, 2014, 07:02:12 PM »
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« Reply #543 on: March 07, 2014, 07:03:42 PM »
Sigh.  ::)

I'm with you on that. Enough already.
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Re: Illuminati & WWIII - 'Ordo Ab Chao' (Order Out of Chaos)
« Reply #544 on: March 07, 2014, 10:11:50 PM »
luciferian pheonix rising from the burning of the old order with illuminist symbols in backdrop



I guess one man's "pyrotechnic spermatozoa in search of an astral ovum to fertilise in order to bring forth ooohs and aaahs in the womb of the 2012 Summer Olympics" is another man's "luciferian pheonix rising from the burning of the old order with illuminist symbols in backdrop". 
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Re: Illuminati & WWIII - 'Ordo Ab Chao' (Order Out of Chaos)
« Reply #545 on: March 07, 2014, 10:14:43 PM »
luciferian pheonix rising from the burning of the old order with illuminist symbols in backdrop



I guess one man's "pyrotechnic spermatozoa in search of an astral ovum to fertilise in order to bring forth ooohs and aaahs in the womb of the 2012 Summer Olympics" is another man's "luciferian pheonix rising from the burning of the old order with illuminist symbols in backdrop".  

Mor brilliance.  :-*
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #546 on: March 08, 2014, 08:05:41 AM »
I think it must be utterly exhausting to look for signs and symbols of conspiracy everywhere.
It's common knowledge that you secretly want to be born in early 17th century Russia.  As a serf or a royal, I know not.  Chances are serf.

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Re: Illuminati & WWIII - 'Ordo Ab Chao' (Order Out of Chaos)
« Reply #547 on: March 08, 2014, 10:15:01 AM »
luciferian pheonix rising from the burning of the old order with illuminist symbols in backdrop



I guess one man's "pyrotechnic spermatozoa in search of an astral ovum to fertilise in order to bring forth ooohs and aaahs in the womb of the 2012 Summer Olympics" is another man's "luciferian pheonix rising from the burning of the old order with illuminist symbols in backdrop".  

Mor brilliance.  :-*

Great pun, too, LBK.
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« Reply #548 on: March 08, 2014, 10:20:17 AM »
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #549 on: March 08, 2014, 11:20:28 AM »
I think it must be utterly exhausting to look for signs and symbols of conspiracy everywhere.

Indeed. I didn't know the London 2012 Olympics were secretly arranged to get us all to join the Freemasons and worship Satan or whatever else we were supposed to do. I just like to watch track and field. :)
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #550 on: March 08, 2014, 11:34:10 AM »
I think it must be utterly exhausting to look for signs and symbols of conspiracy everywhere.

But what an adventure it is compared to real life! 
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #551 on: March 08, 2014, 11:35:50 AM »
The Olympic rings are Luciferian*!







*but really, what ISN'T Luciferian?
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #552 on: March 08, 2014, 01:49:18 PM »
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #553 on: March 08, 2014, 01:59:48 PM »
Well now you've convinced us all with that incredible image. The bear clinched it for me.
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Freemasonry rooted in Talmudic Judaism
« Reply #554 on: March 08, 2014, 03:16:03 PM »

''Masonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic Ritual and what is left?''  The Jewish Tribune (New York) 28 October 1927

“Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords, and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end.” The rabbi Isaac Wise chairman of B’nai B’rith  (Israelite of America, 3 August 1866)

“Freemasonry is born out of Israel.”  The Jewish Guardian 12 April 1922:

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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #555 on: March 08, 2014, 03:28:56 PM »
The Jews and the Freemasons are in it together? Who'd a' thunk it?

Okay, I won't join the Freemasons. I wasn't going to, anyway. I just hope you find another hobby, Peter.
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #556 on: March 08, 2014, 03:35:31 PM »
The Jews and the Freemasons are in it together? Who'd a' thunk it?

Okay, I won't join the Freemasons. I wasn't going to, anyway. I just hope you find another hobby, Peter.

Moot point as they don't take women. However I like the Oddfellows who do.

Same schtick as the Masons but no church condemnation at all. Go figure.
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #557 on: March 08, 2014, 03:44:57 PM »
The Jews and the Freemasons are in it together? Who'd a' thunk it?
St. John of Damascus.

“The Jews, who did not accept the Lord Jesus Christ as the true Son of God and God, will receive a deceiver who will call himself God.” St. John of Damascus, Exact Exposition of the Orthodox Faith, Book IV, Ch. 26
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #558 on: March 08, 2014, 03:47:11 PM »
In other news, the next Summer Games are in Brazil in 2016.

Good luck making up nonsense about that.

http://www.olympic.org/rio-2016-summer-olympics
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #559 on: March 08, 2014, 03:49:29 PM »
The Jews and the Freemasons are in it together? Who'd a' thunk it?
St. Irenaeus of Lyons.

“The adversary will sit in the temple of Jerusalem, in order to show himself as Christ, he will demand that those who are captivated by him should worship him as Christ. The Antichrist will demand worship as if he were God.” St. Irenaeus of Lyons, Against Heresies, Book 5, Ch. 25

And the consensus of the holy Fathers which you claim to believe:
http://www.orthodox.net/gleanings/antichrist.html
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« Reply #560 on: March 08, 2014, 03:51:56 PM »
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #561 on: March 08, 2014, 03:54:58 PM »
I think it must be utterly exhausting to look for signs and symbols of conspiracy everywhere.

But what an adventure it is compared to real life! 

Sometimes a pyramid is just a pyramid.
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #562 on: March 08, 2014, 03:59:29 PM »
Sometimes a pyramid is just a pyramid.
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« Reply #563 on: March 08, 2014, 04:02:18 PM »
I think it must be utterly exhausting to look for signs and symbols of conspiracy everywhere.

But what an adventure it is compared to real life! 

Sometimes a pyramid is just a pyramid.

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« Reply #564 on: March 08, 2014, 04:09:43 PM »
I think it must be utterly exhausting to look for signs and symbols of conspiracy everywhere.

But what an adventure it is compared to real life! 

Sometimes a pyramid is just a pyramid.

Sometimes a pyramid is actually a mistake.
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« Reply #565 on: March 08, 2014, 04:34:59 PM »
Sometimes a pyramid is just a pyramid.
And this Father, what is this at the Olympics of all places?

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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #566 on: March 08, 2014, 05:06:48 PM »
The opening ceremony presented a mashup of elements that shaped British history and culture. Lord Voldemort is certainly one such. Victory is so much better against a well-created antagonist.
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« Reply #567 on: March 08, 2014, 05:15:27 PM »
I think it must be utterly exhausting to look for signs and symbols of conspiracy everywhere.

But what an adventure it is compared to real life!  

Sometimes a pyramid is just a pyramid.


Sometimes a pyramid is actually a mistake.

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« Reply #568 on: March 08, 2014, 05:56:37 PM »
The opening ceremony presented a mashup of elements that shaped British history and culture. Lord Voldemort is certainly one such. Victory is so much better against a well-created antagonist.

So you admit it is another "Lord", an "antichrist" if you will. 
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« Reply #569 on: March 08, 2014, 06:04:21 PM »
The opening ceremony presented a mashup of elements that shaped British history and culture. Lord Voldemort is certainly one such. Victory is so much better against a well-created antagonist.

So you admit it is another "Lord", an "antichrist" if you will. 

If you take Harry Potter as a Christian parable. And we already know how that ends.
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« Reply #570 on: March 08, 2014, 06:07:33 PM »
Why would an organization that supposedly wants people to join it, go through the ridiculous trouble of 'hidden' messages? Why not just say 'join the Freemasons,' like they already do?

I don't think two fighting giant puppets made anyone want to control the world or worship Satan.

Peter, do you have any good sense, or are you just trapped in London 2012?

Please, for the sake of your collective good health and mine, find something else to do.
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« Reply #571 on: March 09, 2014, 05:13:37 AM »
Why would an organization that supposedly wants people to join it, go through the ridiculous trouble of 'hidden' messages? Why not just say 'join the Freemasons,' like they already do?

I don't think two fighting giant puppets made anyone want to control the world or worship Satan.

Peter, do you have any good sense, or are you just trapped in London 2012?

Please, for the sake of your collective good health and mine, find something else to do.
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #572 on: March 09, 2014, 05:32:33 AM »
The opening ceremony presented a mashup of elements that shaped British history and culture. Lord Voldemort is certainly one such. Victory is so much better against a well-created antagonist.

So you admit it is another "Lord", an "antichrist" if you will. 

If you take Harry Potter as a Christian parable. And we already know how that ends.

Harry Potter is simply one form of the promotion and glorification of evil to the masses.  Witchcraft is presented as a hero type to children who are being gradually conditioned to accept satanic symbols and practices.  This is also seen in many of the newer games and cartoons.  Your analysis of attributing it merely to 'British history' does not work for this and other reasons.  The ghastly figure whatever you wish to call him ultimately represents evil and death, which they plan to unleash on humanity in their drive to build their new order and Antichrist's global kingdom.
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« Reply #573 on: March 09, 2014, 07:31:18 AM »
The opening ceremony presented a mashup of elements that shaped British history and culture. Lord Voldemort is certainly one such. Victory is so much better against a well-created antagonist.

So you admit it is another "Lord", an "antichrist" if you will. 

If you take Harry Potter as a Christian parable. And we already know how that ends.

Harry Potter is simply one form of the promotion and glorification of evil to the masses.  Witchcraft is presented as a hero type to children who are being gradually conditioned to accept satanic symbols and practices.  This is also seen in many of the newer games and cartoons.  Your analysis of attributing it merely to 'British history' does not work for this and other reasons.  The ghastly figure whatever you wish to call him ultimately represents evil and death, which they plan to unleash on humanity in their drive to build their new order and Antichrist's global kingdom.

The particular character represents evil, and gets soundly defeated.

We have discussed HP thoroughly on another thread, as well as magic in literature generally. If you don't feel comfortable with its themes, that's one thing. Others disagree.
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« Reply #574 on: March 09, 2014, 07:33:08 AM »
Why would an organization that supposedly wants people to join it, go through the ridiculous trouble of 'hidden' messages? Why not just say 'join the Freemasons,' like they already do?

I don't think two fighting giant puppets made anyone want to control the world or worship Satan.

Peter, do you have any good sense, or are you just trapped in London 2012?

Please, for the sake of your collective good health and mine, find something else to do.
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Such a fundamentalist attitude is better suited to Islam or some sect like the Shakers.
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #575 on: March 09, 2014, 10:14:45 AM »
The opening ceremony presented a mashup of elements that shaped British history and culture.

Which part of British history and culture is this character from?  If you will notice he is hybrid reptilian and human, representing the union of luciferian angels with humanity - the antithesis of the union of Christ with humanity.

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« Reply #576 on: March 09, 2014, 10:28:32 AM »
The opening ceremony presented a mashup of elements that shaped British history and culture.

Which part of British history and culture is this character from?  If you will notice he is hybrid reptilian and human, representing the union of luciferian angels with humanity - the antithesis of the union of Christ with humanity.



That is Caliban, from Shakespeare's play The Tempest. The particular pic is from a production put on in Stratford in 2010 and not a part of the Olympic ceremony.
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« Reply #577 on: March 09, 2014, 01:50:24 PM »
The opening ceremony presented a mashup of elements that shaped British history and culture.

Which part of British history and culture is this character from?  If you will notice he is hybrid reptilian and human, representing the union of luciferian angels with humanity - the antithesis of the union of Christ with humanity.



You mean that's not from Bodies: The Exhibition
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« Reply #578 on: March 09, 2014, 04:11:10 PM »
The opening ceremony presented a mashup of elements that shaped British history and culture.

Which part of British history and culture is this character from?  If you will notice he is hybrid reptilian and human, representing the union of luciferian angels with humanity - the antithesis of the union of Christ with humanity.



That is Caliban, from Shakespeare's play The Tempest. The particular pic is from a production put on in Stratford in 2010 and not a part of the Olympic ceremony.

Luigi Lablache as "Caliban" 1850


A fascinating contemporary rendering of a reptilian Caliban. But you're right.  The image was mistakenly ascribed to the Olympics by me.  Regardless, the weight of the evidence remains. Contemporary social norms ascribed to culture or history are often perversions of what might otherwise be harmless.  In the case of the Olympics, much of what you would ascribe to British history and culture are sinful perversions of it which are tainted by occultic illuminist overtones in the ceremony (you will disagree).  However, there is also imagery which is unrelated to the degenerate version of British history or culture, as is the case of a host of pyramids, phoenix rising and much more which I find unnecessary to develop at this point.  It will suffice to present a set of images here to further illustrate the point and I trust you will not claim it is related to American history:

Illuminist Super Bowl - Kabbalist Maddonna and her legions of fallen angels


From the Cairo Museum of Ancient Illuminist Mysteries


That darn eye again


oops, some more...Eye of Horus and 'Star of David'


The Strike a Pose Goat Pose


Sing it y'all - 'In the midnight hour I can feel your power'...in their satanic best ritual robes


Antichrist's World Peace (after the devastating chaos that is - 'Ordo Ab Chao')

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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #579 on: March 10, 2014, 08:28:51 AM »
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And this Father, what is this at the Olympics of all places?

"At the Olympics of all places?"  Really?  You do understand that the Olympics were founded in ancient (pre-Christian) times as a means of competitive fellowship and peace partially in honor of the pagan gods, right?  I'm just not seeing why you're surprised that non-Christian imagery is present at games which have never been Christian. (I could repeat my final statement and replace "games" with "football games" and address your Superbowl post.)
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #580 on: March 12, 2014, 09:24:47 AM »
Sometimes a pyramid is just a pyramid.
And this Father, what is this at the Olympics of all places?

"At the Olympics of all places?"  Really?  You do understand that the Olympics were founded in ancient (pre-Christian) times as a means of competitive fellowship and peace partially in honor of the pagan gods, right?  I'm just not seeing why you're surprised that non-Christian imagery is present at games which have never been Christian. (I could repeat my final statement and replace "games" with "football games" and address your Superbowl post.)

Father, with due respect, the modern Olympics were revived to engender a spirit of friendship among nations through sport.  It was not to be a pagan festival as in classical times.  We have inherited  a rich cultural heritage from the ancient Greeks with their many achievements as you well know.  I think we need to make the right distinctions between what is ordinarily beneficial, and the pagan elements which could be attached to it.  As for the Super Bowl, once again, I would think football in itself is not pagan, neither are games sinful or idolatrous so long as they do take up too much of our time and hamper our spiritual life.   

What we are actually witnessing is a contemporary and unprecedented projection of the luciferian religion onto the world stage through high profile events.  It is not the events themselves per se as you might be suggesting. This has been going on for some time now in other spheres as well including pop literature, children's games, cartoons, etc. They are evidently emboldened and feel the masses are now ripe for this sort of open activity.

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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #581 on: March 12, 2014, 10:18:31 AM »
Sigh...I think its far more spiritually beneficial to your life to live as best we can as an exemplar of the church's teachings rather than being "Gnostic" like and wasting time searching out symbols, numbers and hidden, secret messages.

Evil things and evil people are out there - we all know that. We don't need to credit vacuous pop stars with anything more than trying to out Vegas the real Los Vegas in their narcissistic endeavors to make money..

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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #582 on: March 13, 2014, 07:42:04 AM »
rather than being "Gnostic" like

I think it would be wise to refrain from these sort of comments as they are inappropriate and out of order.  If you had attempted to quote a Church authority on this issue I might have considered it more seriously.  And please don't pretend to know the extent of my spiritual life by making false accusations.  Thanks.
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #583 on: March 13, 2014, 08:22:06 AM »
Hardly inappropriate, the comment is right on target, and "wisely" applied.
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Re: Illuminati & Freemasons
« Reply #584 on: October 26, 2014, 06:33:23 PM »
Straight up Illuminati.

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