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Clean Monday, 2013
« on: March 14, 2013, 12:26:04 AM »
Nothing has been decided officially yet for this year, but do be aware that we have a longstanding tradition of shutting this forum down entirely for all of Clean Monday, which this year falls on March 18 (next Monday). I'm sure Fr. Anastasios and the admin team will let us know if that's going to happen again this year.

Have a blessed Lent, all. (And do try to keep those purple demons at bay.)
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2013, 09:54:28 AM »
I was never certain why Clean Monday is called Clean Monday?

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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2013, 10:04:50 AM »
I was never certain why Clean Monday is called Clean Monday?

It used to be a day when pots and pans were cleaned and scoured with lye, to make sure no spot of festive grease remained in them, in view of Lenten cooking. :)
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2013, 10:06:06 AM »
Clean Monday is the first full day of Great Lent, when all non-fasting foods are gone from our homes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Monday
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2013, 10:08:27 AM »
Actually, it's more like a Greek tradition.

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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2013, 11:11:38 AM »
The forum will be shut down for the observance of the first day of Great Lent.

We will suspend activity at approximately 10:00pm US EDT on Sunday, March 17, with the forum re-opening approximately 24 hours later.
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2013, 12:32:07 PM »
What will I do at work on Monday then?  ???


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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2013, 12:33:21 PM »
Actually, it's more like a Greek tradition.

I don't know about that...Ukrainians do it, too.

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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2013, 12:33:32 PM »
What will I do at work on Monday then?  ???


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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2013, 12:35:24 PM »
What will I do at work on Monday then?  ???


 ;D

Work? :P
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2013, 12:39:58 PM »
What will I do at work on Monday then?  ???


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Work? :P

What's that?  How do I do that?  ;D

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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2013, 01:24:44 PM »
Ahh, thankfully it has returned! Now I can wash my hands of you people for but a day at least, before returning to guide you all once again...
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2013, 02:19:59 PM »
I think we should do a good friday - pascha shut-down as well!   :o :o ;D
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2013, 02:20:54 PM »
I think we should do a good friday - pascha shut-down as well!   :o :o ;D

Reopen on the stroke of midnight with marquee fireworks? ;D
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2013, 02:23:06 PM »
I think we should do a good friday - pascha shut-down as well!   :o :o ;D

Reopen on the stroke of midnight with marquee fireworks? ;D

I think we should do midnight in Hawaii though...make people wait as long as possible.   :-X :angel:
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2013, 02:33:41 PM »
I think we should do a good friday - pascha shut-down as well!   :o :o ;D

Reopen on the stroke of midnight with marquee fireworks? ;D

I think we should do midnight in Hawaii though...make people wait as long as possible.   :-X :angel:

Can you program that in advance, or will someone have to actually stay up to do it manually? Because I doubt there would be many takers... :angel:
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2013, 02:34:54 PM »
I think we should do a good friday - pascha shut-down as well!   :o :o ;D

Reopen on the stroke of midnight with marquee fireworks? ;D

I think we should do midnight in Hawaii though...make people wait as long as possible.   :-X :angel:

Can you program that in advance, or will someone have to actually stay up to do it manually? Because I doubt there would be many takers... :angel:

ahhh, but that is the beauty of having posters from around the world!  By the time it's midnight in Hawaii, it'l be Tuesday in Australia!
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2013, 02:35:51 PM »
I for one find the idea of a clean Monday impossible to understand. We should eat clean every day. If anything, oc.net should have a "cheat day Monday" for us.
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2013, 02:36:39 PM »
I for one find the idea of a clean Monday impossible to understand. We should eat clean every day. If anything, oc.net should have a "cheat day Monday" for us.

yes, but how would we celebrate such a holyday? (pun intended)
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2013, 02:37:56 PM »
I think we should do a good friday - pascha shut-down as well!   :o :o ;D

Reopen on the stroke of midnight with marquee fireworks? ;D

I think we should do midnight in Hawaii though...make people wait as long as possible.   :-X :angel:

Can you program that in advance, or will someone have to actually stay up to do it manually? Because I doubt there would be many takers... :angel:

What do you mean "stay up"?  Won't we all be in church for about 6 hours and come back home in the wee hours of the morning?  

We'll already BE up!
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2013, 02:38:12 PM »
No warnings or moderations handed out for the entire day? Let us run amok!
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2013, 02:39:16 PM »
I for one find the idea of a clean Monday impossible to understand. We should eat clean every day. If anything, oc.net should have a "cheat day Monday" for us.

It's "clean" in the sense that we gave up all our vices, smoking, drinking, eating non-lenten, arguing, judging, etc.

WE are to be clean that day!
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2013, 02:40:11 PM »
No warnings or moderations handed out for the entire day? Let us run amok!

If you like, I'll send you a warning through the email, if it'll make you feel better and more at ease.
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2013, 02:44:00 PM »
I think we should do a good friday - pascha shut-down as well!   :o :o ;D

Reopen on the stroke of midnight with marquee fireworks? ;D

I think we should do midnight in Hawaii though...make people wait as long as possible.   :-X :angel:

Can you program that in advance, or will someone have to actually stay up to do it manually? Because I doubt there would be many takers... :angel:

What do you mean "stay up"?  Won't we all be in church for about 6 hours and come back home in the wee hours of the morning? 

We'll already BE up!

Depends on them pesky time zones. Midnight in Hawaii is 10am GMT. I'll have even managed my beauty sleep! 8)
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2013, 03:00:21 PM »

When you're THAT beautiful, you don't need beauty sleep!
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2013, 04:03:57 PM »
I think we should do a good friday - pascha shut-down as well!   :o :o ;D

I agree.  When I was Catholic, we were not allowed to watch tv or listen to the radio.
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2013, 04:39:37 PM »
I think we should do a good friday - pascha shut-down as well!   :o :o ;D

I agree.  When I was Catholic, we were not allowed to watch tv or listen to the radio.

I remember Holy Fridays in Istanbul. First, my parents took us from school. We attended all three services. And, we could not listen to the radio, play or sing (no TV), and we certainly could not go out to do anything (except church of course). Supper was nettle soup.
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2013, 05:06:50 PM »
I think we should do a good friday - pascha shut-down as well!   :o :o ;D

I agree.  When I was Catholic, we were not allowed to watch tv or listen to the radio.

Maybe except The Way of the Cross from the Coloseum with the Pope ;) (it's always broadcasted at least by Polish Public Tv)

But I think last year the forum was shut-down on Good Friday and Good Saturday as well
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2013, 05:08:15 PM »
We do pretty much the same thing.

During Lent - there's minimal entertainment....TV is mostly NEWS/weather only.

Holy week is even stricter....and from Holy Friday onward, there's no TV, no radio, no singing, no nothing.  The day is spent in prayer....and for the women, in cooking and cleaning and preparing for Pascha.

....the point being to take a nap Saturday afternoon....but, after Divine Liturgy in the morning, we usually deliver baskets to the elderly and shut ins, so they have paska bread, kovbasa, etc. the following morning.  The priest blesses these baskets Saturday....but, forbids anyone from eating from them until the following morning.  This is usually for those who can't come in the middle of the night.

By the time we deliver all the baskets and get back home, it's about 4 or 5 p.m....and there's still tons of cooking and cleaning to do.

I'm usually so far behind that come 10 p.m. I quickly put aside my intentions of "dolling up" for Pascha, and just put anything on, and run out the door.
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2013, 05:26:40 PM »
I think we should do a good friday - pascha shut-down as well!   :o :o ;D

I agree.  When I was Catholic, we were not allowed to watch tv or listen to the radio.

Back in the Philippines and back in the day (pre-cable), the networks shut down anyways from Holy Thursday to Holy Saturday.  Those who do remain broadcasting will broadcast religious-themed shows, usually movies, like The Ten Commandments or Jesus of Nazareth.  Then eventually there were shows with priests doing lenten reflections especially during Good Friday, or a live telecast from one of the popular large churches in the city for the Good Friday service, which priests would do preaching on the Seven Last Words.

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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2013, 05:33:20 PM »
In Greece, theatres have their last performance on Palm Sunday and cinemas on Holy Wednesday. National television shows a lot of chanting and Holy Week customs documentaries, especially if Catholic Easter coincides. The evening services are all broadcast live. Private channels don't go that far, but they do bring out religious-themed films and series; I think Jesus of Nazareth has hardly missed a year since it came out. (It probably won't be shown here, but I have the DVD anyway!)
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2013, 05:58:09 PM »

That's really cool!
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2013, 06:24:27 PM »
I think we should do a good friday - pascha shut-down as well!   :o :o ;D

I agree.  When I was Catholic, we were not allowed to watch tv or listen to the radio.

Maybe except The Way of the Cross from the Coloseum with the Pope ;) (it's always broadcasted at least by Polish Public Tv)

But I think last year the forum was shut-down on Good Friday and Good Saturday as well
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2013, 06:50:12 PM »
In Greece, theatres have their last performance on Palm Sunday and cinemas on Holy Wednesday. National television shows a lot of chanting and Holy Week customs documentaries, especially if Catholic Easter coincides. The evening services are all broadcast live. Private channels don't go that far, but they do bring out religious-themed films and series; I think Jesus of Nazareth has hardly missed a year since it came out. (It probably won't be shown here, but I have the DVD anyway!)

It sounds great, as from my greatest dreams! ;) Once I was also inquring into which days are holidays (free of work) in particular countries and Greece is very good place for Orthodox living - all the most important feasts are free (I would probably only add the Exaltation of the Cross or/and the Transfiguration)  :angel:. So maybe I should find a nice Greek man and move to Greece. If only there was no such big crisis...
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2013, 07:16:02 PM »
Once I was also inquring into which days are holidays (free of work) in particular countries and Greece is very good place for Orthodox living - all the most important feasts are free

I could imagine an Orthodox on the Julian Calendar asking their American employer for the day of "Orthodox Christmas" off work in January, and the employer saying something like: "What are you talking about? Jews don't celebrate Christmas."

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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2013, 07:23:00 PM »
Once I was also inquring into which days are holidays (free of work) in particular countries and Greece is very good place for Orthodox living - all the most important feasts are free

I could imagine an Orthodox on the Julian Calendar asking their American employer for the day of "Orthodox Christmas" off work in January, and the employer saying something like: "What are you talking about? Jews don't celebrate Christmas."

Haha that's a good one  :laugh: Fortunately, in Polish there are 2 words from "Orthodox" - prawosławny (Christian) and ortodoksyjny (Jew or generally conservative)
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2013, 09:56:24 PM »
HEADS UP! This board is likely to go down very soon, so start wrapping up all your posting activity pronto.
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Aaaaaaand we're back!  Blessed Lent!  Καλή Σαρακοστή
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« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2013, 03:48:58 AM »
It feels good to be back! ;D
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2013, 07:30:16 AM »
Hi, everybody. :)
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2013, 08:51:59 AM »
I've really missed y'all. It felt like ages.
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2013, 08:56:42 AM »
I've really missed y'all. It felt like ages.

Same here!  :)
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2013, 09:04:18 AM »
In apparent contradiction to others, I found the day off to be surprisingly freeing - I didn't feel as though I needed to check in on what's going on (or not  :)). I'm thinking of determining to stay away for at least a day each week in Lent.

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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #43 on: March 19, 2013, 10:32:49 AM »
I've really missed y'all. It felt like ages.

Y'all haven't changed a bit...other than looking a bit cleaner.

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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #44 on: March 19, 2013, 01:09:43 PM »
Work wasn't the same yesterday.

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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2013, 12:23:44 AM »
Work wasn't the same yesterday.

agreed.  well played sir.
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #46 on: March 20, 2013, 07:08:44 AM »
Work wasn't the same yesterday.

 ;D

I once visited OC.net at school. You wouldn't believe the looks you got. Never did it again.
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #47 on: March 20, 2013, 03:50:46 PM »
Work wasn't the same yesterday.

 ;D

I once visited OC.net at school. You wouldn't believe the looks you got. Never did it again.

I've done that plenty of times; everyone looks at me like I'm a weirdo :)
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #48 on: March 20, 2013, 05:21:51 PM »
I'll have to try at the library. See if the network allows it. :)
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #49 on: March 20, 2013, 09:59:55 PM »
I for one find the idea of a clean Monday impossible to understand. We should eat clean every day. If anything, oc.net should have a "cheat day Monday" for us.

Solid work throughout this thread.

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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2013, 03:44:22 PM »
I for one find the idea of a clean Monday impossible to understand. We should eat clean every day. If anything, oc.net should have a "cheat day Monday" for us.

It's "clean" in the sense that we gave up all our vices, smoking, drinking, eating non-lenten, arguing, judging, etc.

WE are to be clean that day!

When did that happen?
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2013, 03:46:21 PM »
I for one find the idea of a clean Monday impossible to understand. We should eat clean every day. If anything, oc.net should have a "cheat day Monday" for us.

It's "clean" in the sense that we gave up all our vices, smoking, drinking, eating non-lenten, arguing, judging, etc.

WE are to be clean that day!

When did that happen?

LOL!  Monday.....  :)

You seem much shinier!
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2013, 03:47:55 PM »

LOL!  Monday.....  :)

You seem much shinier!


Well, I did take a bath before I went to see the doctor.
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2013, 03:16:20 PM »

I've often seen Hindu festivals involve throwing colored dyes, etc.

This is the first I've seen this done in an Orthodox celebration.


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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2013, 03:18:28 PM »
epic^

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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2013, 03:26:47 PM »
Supper was nettle soup.

yum, yum!
even being born in a country where the country hedges are full of nettles in the spring and summer,
i had to go to romania before i experienced nettle soup.
actually nettle stew is my favourite, just made with onions, garlic, nettles and a few herbs.
you quickly boil the nettles first for 2-3 mins to take away the 'sting' and then fry them once the onions are brown.
in the uk, the best time for picking the fresh nettles is may; it's important to only use the young leaves, or you will scratch your throat.

i also like the idea of switching off tv / computers / telephone internets etc. for a few days (or more!) during lent.
i had a very nice 'clean monday'; thanks all for introducing me to this custom.
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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2013, 05:00:00 PM »
epic^

Wait until Holy Week, and you'll get to see handheld fireworks too! ;D

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Re: Clean Monday, 2013
« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2013, 05:05:21 PM »
I've already known about fireworks :)