I'm pretty new to this whole jurisdictional debate thing, but I was reading a few books about the current status of the several Orthodox jurisdictions across the world, and America of course came up, and well, having no other way to put it, it seems like with all due respect that the EP is singlehandedly responsible for all of North America's jurisdictional problems. If we had followed St. Tikhon's original plan, then a unified American Orthodox Church could have existed in the first half of the 20th century, but the EP had to claim ecclessiastical jurisdiction in 1922, which destroyed this plan. And to this very day, the EP has been more stubbornly concerned with keeping EJ, at America's expense. I'm not one to insult the heirarchs, but that's sorta seems like a butt-hole move....I hope someone anathematizes the EP soon.
Why on earth would you hope someone anathematises the EP? Do you ever stop to think things through before you post them? I know you're young and you'll probably grow out of it, but I really would recommend careful consideration of every thought before committing it to words that others can see or hear.
Yeah JamesR... Is Outrage! (LOL)
So I get mocked for urging someone to think things through before committing them to a post? Maybe you should heed my advice also... only you don't have the excuse of teenage over-enthusiasm that JamesR does, do you?
Nope I don't. I'm probably one of the oldest people on the forum. It wasn't meant as personal, so please forgive me if it relayed that way. It was meant in a broad sense, that I believe so many people kiss up to the EP's, that the EP's can do no wrong in their eyes.... Almost like their poo doesn't stink.
In several posts above I explained it out further, that under an EP in America, (speaking in a past tense of where I was), I very well could have been fully EO today. The EP's messed up America, and I believe many on this forum agree. I apologize, and I can see where you thought I mocked you... It was NOT personal....
Sometimes when you bring up stuff like the mysteriously disappearing $30k watch off an EP's wrist - that was in the reflection on a table, many people respond with "how dare you!" - "who are you do ever insult his all holiness...". I believe JamesR brought out a serious thorn.... America, though we don't see it so often (we are use to it) is a jurisdictional mess.
If we look at Poland for example I see a lot more solidarity, and they are very small compared to the USA... Russia by population very small compared to the USA. USA is often considered a more wealthy nation too..... I've watched ROCOR churches FAIL, because a hole in the wall OCA church got a better building. I watch ROCOR in McKinney, TX - dilute the body of OCA in Dallas, TX. Dallas has OCA & Greek which dilute the Orthodox body down from each other. I'm not even going to get into the Romanian church in Carrolton, TX which dilutes the body down. Lots of hole in the wall churches, even home churches. All that dilute from each other.
Under a single EP, there would be probably 7 churches in Dallas/Ft. Worth - all spaced out perfectly.
Though in some ways the "free market" Eastern Orthodoxy IS fun and interesting, for the sake of solidarity, I do believe it is bad for the church here. It is the EP's fault, and greed & power corrupted unfortunately.
I do apologize if I came off sounding personally insulting, it was not my intent.