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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #180 on: March 13, 2013, 02:06:58 PM »
I got the "alert" on my cellphone....but, can't find the news anywhere.

Who is it?
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #181 on: March 13, 2013, 02:07:43 PM »
Habent Papa. Multos Annis! Many Years! I pray that "axios" is in order.

(I apologize for my Android spell check. It changed axios to another word and I failed to proof it. No offense was meant.)
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #182 on: March 13, 2013, 02:11:17 PM »
Habent Papa. Multos Annis! Many Years! I pray that "axios" is in order.

(I apologize for my Android spell check. It changed axios to another word and I failed to proof it. No offense was meant.)

No fair! I was supposed to say that.  ;D
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #183 on: March 13, 2013, 02:12:19 PM »
Will it be an African or Cardinal O'Malley?
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #184 on: March 13, 2013, 02:13:44 PM »
White Smoke! We have a Pope!

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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #185 on: March 13, 2013, 02:14:06 PM »
I got the "alert" on my cellphone....but, can't find the news anywhere.

Who is it?

Never got my alert.  I hope its Cardinal O'Malley.

Ha, I finally got my alert.
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #186 on: March 13, 2013, 02:14:44 PM »
Habemus Papam!
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #187 on: March 13, 2013, 02:14:44 PM »
White Smoke! We have a Pope!

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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #188 on: March 13, 2013, 02:14:44 PM »
Will it be an African or Cardinal O'Malley?

Given that it happened so quickly I bet it's either Cardinal Scola or Cardinal Ouellet
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #189 on: March 13, 2013, 02:15:05 PM »
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #190 on: March 13, 2013, 02:19:43 PM »
May God Bless all Roman Catholics on their happy news, and may God grant the new Pope much wisdom and strength to deal with the difficult issues dividing Roman Catholics from Orthodox Christians.


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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #192 on: March 13, 2013, 02:21:49 PM »
May God Bless all Roman Catholics on their happy news, and may God grant the new Pope much wisdom and strength to deal with the difficult issues dividing Roman Catholics from Orthodox Christians.


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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #193 on: March 13, 2013, 02:23:47 PM »
Not that its happening, but would a Byzantine/Eastern Catholic Pope help or hurt the overall East/West relations?
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #194 on: March 13, 2013, 02:31:55 PM »
Not that its happening, but would a Byzantine/Eastern Catholic Pope help or hurt the overall East/West relations?

Definitely hurt. Most Catholics on the ground are already deluded about how close EOy and RCism is, and such an event would just push them further into delusion, not to mention giving fuel to the anti-Catholic conspiracy theory dreams of a small minority of Orthodox.
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #195 on: March 13, 2013, 02:32:44 PM »
May God Bless all Roman Catholics on their happy news, and may God grant the new Pope much wisdom and strength to deal with the difficult issues dividing Roman Catholics from Orthodox Christians.


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Indeed. And of more importance.
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #196 on: March 13, 2013, 02:32:44 PM »
Not that its happening, but would a Byzantine/Eastern Catholic Pope help or hurt the overall East/West relations?
I think it could hurt, because he would have to latinize himself immediately. That's probably not a good thing.
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« Reply #197 on: March 13, 2013, 02:32:54 PM »
Not that its happening, but would a Byzantine/Eastern Catholic Pope help or hurt the overall East/West relations?
Depends on which "sui juris" he came from, ranging from Melchite (the best) to the UGCC (worst).
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #198 on: March 13, 2013, 02:33:26 PM »
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Not that its happening, but would a Byzantine/Eastern Catholic Pope
Unfortunately, that will never happen....ever.
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #199 on: March 13, 2013, 02:34:17 PM »
Not that its happening, but would a Byzantine/Eastern Catholic Pope help or hurt the overall East/West relations?

Definitely hurt. Most Catholics on the ground are already deluded about how close EOy and RCism is, and such an event would just push them further into delusion, not to mention giving fuel to the anti-Catholic conspiracy theory dreams of a small minority of Orthodox.

Thats what I was thinking. On the surface, it seems nice. But it would definitely reduce the differences between us.
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #200 on: March 13, 2013, 02:34:53 PM »
Not that its happening, but would a Byzantine/Eastern Catholic Pope help or hurt the overall East/West relations?
Depends on which "sui juris" he came from, ranging from Melchite (the best) to the UGCC (worst).

IMO Maronite would be most favoured.

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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #201 on: March 13, 2013, 02:36:47 PM »
Just "White Smoke" and ringing bells so far; no announcement, yet.
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« Reply #202 on: March 13, 2013, 02:40:04 PM »
The commentators on EWTN's live streaming coverage said they think we'll know in about 10 minutes.....  So far the shots of the crowds show lots and lots of very happy Roman Catholics.  :-)  
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« Reply #203 on: March 13, 2013, 02:42:25 PM »
Not that its happening, but would a Byzantine/Eastern Catholic Pope help or hurt the overall East/West relations?
I think it could hurt, because he would have to latinize himself immediately. That's probably not a good thing.
Oh?  You know that the first Latin Archbishop of Rome, St. Victor, did not come until c. 188, and the see wasn't fully Latinized until Pontiff Damasus c. 380.

Who would tell His Holiness that he would have to Latinize?
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #204 on: March 13, 2013, 02:42:25 PM »
Not that its happening, but would a Byzantine/Eastern Catholic Pope help or hurt the overall East/West relations?
Depends on which "sui juris" he came from, ranging from Melchite (the best) to the UGCC (worst).

IMO Maronite would be most favoured.
Favored by whom?
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #205 on: March 13, 2013, 02:42:25 PM »
The commentators on EWTN's live streaming coverage said they think we'll know in about 10 minutes.....  So far the shots of the crowds show lots and lots of very happy Roman Catholics.  :-)  
We are easy to please. A few bells, a few smells, and news of a new Pope.
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« Reply #206 on: March 13, 2013, 02:42:55 PM »
Favored by whom?

Russians, for example.

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« Reply #207 on: March 13, 2013, 02:49:01 PM »
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #208 on: March 13, 2013, 02:51:27 PM »
What if Hillary Clinton walked out on that balcony....
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« Reply #209 on: March 13, 2013, 02:51:32 PM »
Not that its happening, but would a Byzantine/Eastern Catholic Pope help or hurt the overall East/West relations?
Depends on which "sui juris" he came from, ranging from Melchite (the best) to the UGCC (worst).

Care to elaborate?

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« Reply #210 on: March 13, 2013, 02:55:23 PM »
What if Hillary Clinton walked out on that balcony....

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« Reply #211 on: March 13, 2013, 03:01:27 PM »
The lights came on in the balcony area........

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« Reply #212 on: March 13, 2013, 03:02:14 PM »
Habetis Papa.

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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
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« Reply #214 on: March 13, 2013, 03:09:38 PM »
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #215 on: March 13, 2013, 03:10:48 PM »
will take the name Pope Francis..... he is a Jesuit....  The first Jesuit pope, first Latin American Pope....
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« Reply #216 on: March 13, 2013, 03:12:04 PM »
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« Reply #217 on: March 13, 2013, 03:15:42 PM »
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #218 on: March 13, 2013, 03:17:57 PM »
From what we know of Pope Francisco I:  He lives a simple, monastic-like life, a Jesuit, and who used public transportation in Argentina. Axios!  Multos Annos!  Muchos años!  Don't know about him and the east.
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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #219 on: March 13, 2013, 03:19:28 PM »
The Orthodox do recognize this election, right? Even though we arent in communion, don't we still recognize him officially as the Bishop of Rome?
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« Reply #220 on: March 13, 2013, 03:20:37 PM »
will take the name Pope Francis..... he is a Jesuit....  The first Jesuit pope, first Latin American Pope....

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Re: Conclave and a New Pope
« Reply #221 on: March 13, 2013, 03:23:43 PM »

So, this will be interesting.

Apparently Pope Francis is good friends with  Patriarch Svyatoslav of UGCC.

Now, I see why Russia might have an issue.  ;)
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« Reply #222 on: March 13, 2013, 03:25:04 PM »
Pope Francis I and Patriarch Bartholomew I both at the same time. With all of available names of Saints, I wonder when the last time both were the first to use a name and hold office at the same time?  No significance, just trivia.

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« Reply #223 on: March 13, 2013, 03:25:33 PM »
don't we still recognize him officially as the Bishop of Rome?

Nah. We are sedevacantists.

Favored by whom?

Russians, for example.

Why?

They like him more, than the Byzantine ones.

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« Reply #224 on: March 13, 2013, 03:26:21 PM »
Being Catholic is so awesome.
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