No Orthodox Patriarch is spiritual father of 1 billion +. If the Pope had the flock of a single nation or a few million souls I doubt there would be much fanfare.
Irrelevant. Orthodoxy isn't about being popular or mighty. It's about defending and proclaiming the truth.
Come on kids, cut it out. My point was simple. Patriarchal selection and deposition has historically been as flawed as that of the Roman popes. For example, look up Emperor Romanus I and his choice of his fourth son, 16 year old Theophylact, for the Patriarchal throne to succeed the aged once deposed and twice enthroned Nicholas Mysticus. Poor Theophylact was castrated first so that he would not be unduly distracted from his churchly duties - something that perhaps should have been considered for Alexander Sixtus by the Curia.
This isn't a criticism of the current Patriarch, but come on, as an example, the current Patriarch of the "Third Rome" certainly projects a sense of power, fancy vestiture and media savvy as well as any Pope could hope for.
My dear Podkarpatska, I was merely responding to Deacon Lance's rather boastful post, which equates numbers with a church's importance.
No boast, a statement of fact. The Pope is spiritual father to a billion + people, ergo the conclave gets a lot of fanfare and media coverage. That was all I was commenting on. Did you know the Coptic Catholics Synod elected a new patriarch 1/16/13 and enthroned him 3/12/13? Probably not. The media doesn't care so much. It doesn't mean the Coptic Catholic are less important the the Latin Catholics.
LOL. In so many ways, they are. Although their (former?) primate I think was second in line taking the oath this morning, and they had a nice view of the back of his head (no one in the media recognized him).
I'd be curious how much play this gets in the media of, say, Finland or Greece, or Russia. Or India.
The conclave gets a lot of fanfare....because it is designed for fanfare, like the British coronation, as revealed by the trouble being put into the simple burning of the ballots. Everyone likes secrecy and suspense. That the college has been enlarged to be somewhat more a representative body also helps: everyone likes to root for the home team.
Of course there is an importance that comes with numbers. Chinese is spoken by over a billion people, and thus a world language. It doesn't do you much good, however, outside of China.
I'm curious what would happen (and could it happen) if the Copts in submission to the Vatican adopted the method of the Orthodox Copts in selecting their Pope (ooops! Patriarch-Alexandria under the Vatican's rules isn't allowed to have its title), namely the child picking the name. What would happen if their primate was so chosen-by the hand of God as it were-and the "supreme authority in the church" refused to confirm him?
That part, the child picking the name, done elsewhere in the Orthodox world too, is the only vaguely interesting thing of Orthodox episcopal elections, enthronements. Otherwise, they are pretty much like the vote of the electoral college and its confirmation in the US, as opposed to the general election for President (where most people aren't aware they are electing electors), which resembles a conclave as far as interest goes. Conventions have gone from that in the US to the hum drum of the electoral college and Orthodox episcopal selections, and the ratings show it.
Btw, nothing wrong with fanfare.