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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/9907848/Fake-bishop-tries-to-sneak-into-Vatican-meeting.htmlRalph Napierski, a self-appointed bishop from an apparently fictional order called Corpus Dei, managed to get through a checkpoint manned by Swiss Guards but was stopped before entering the Paul VI Hall, where the cardinals were gathering.
Dressed in fake bishop’s vestments, complete with a purple sash, Mr Napierski smiled to photographers as he mixed with more than 140 cardinals from around the world as they filed into the hall to discuss the challenges facing the Church and possible “papabili” or papal candidates.
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2013, 05:45:35 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2013, 05:48:38 PM » |
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This guy sounds kinda awesome.
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2013, 05:52:02 PM » |
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What a nut! And there isn't even a full moon... |
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2013, 06:08:58 PM » |
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"he gathering of cardinals in the Vatican was overshadowed not just by scandal but by farce too, when a German man masquerading as a bishop tried to infiltrate the meeting." Napierski - Greman :roll: "He said that he was a member of the “Italian Orthodox Church”, which does not exist, " Does it? http://www.chiesaortodossa.it/And seriously, guy is awesome. Reminds me of Remy Galliard. |
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2013, 06:15:00 PM » |
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/9907848/Fake-bishop-tries-to-sneak-into-Vatican-meeting.htmlRalph Napierski, a self-appointed bishop from an apparently fictional order called Corpus Dei, managed to get through a checkpoint manned by Swiss Guards but was stopped before entering the Paul VI Hall, where the cardinals were gathering.
Dressed in fake bishop’s vestments, complete with a purple sash, Mr Napierski smiled to photographers as he mixed with more than 140 cardinals from around the world as they filed into the hall to discuss the challenges facing the Church and possible “papabili” or papal candidates.
I guess it takes practice to wear the sash right, look at him and look at the real cardinal how the real cardinal rocks the sash while the fake guy just looks goofy. its probably the costume disaster that gave him away. lol |
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2013, 07:01:53 PM » |
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This "Bishop Ralph" sells "relics" on eBay. Certified by himself.
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2013, 07:14:49 PM » |
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Am I the only one that found this a little distasteful?
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 07:42:54 PM » |
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Am I the only one that found this a little distasteful?
No. But it does make me wonder about security, vetting and credentials. You would think an organization claiming universal jurisdiction would have a better system after all these centuries. |
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2013, 07:46:26 PM » |
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What on earth is wrong with people?
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2013, 08:03:19 PM » |
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Am I the only one that found this a little distasteful?
No. But it does make me wonder about security, vetting and credentials. You would think an organization claiming universal jurisdiction would have a better system after all these centuries. Just keep going. It's so cute when people don't have respect for each other. |
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2013, 08:29:20 PM » |
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Am I the only one that found this a little distasteful?
No. But it does make me wonder about security, vetting and credentials. You would think an organization claiming universal jurisdiction would have a better system after Just keep going. It's so cute when people don't have respect for each other. Lighten up a little, the man looked ludicrous. You could dress a kid better for a school play from any costume rental agency. As for that picture with the Cardinal? See how far you get with a Yankee uniform you bought at a sports store at Yankee Stadium. You wouldn't be yukking it up with Derek Jeter on the field during batting practice for sure or footballers at Wembley. It was an appalling security failure |
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Am I the only one that found this a little distasteful?
No. But I pray that God will open these people`s eyes and make them realize, one day what a wrong way to treat your next this is. Pray for them. |
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2013, 08:47:56 PM » |
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The article says the guy also supports something called "Jesus Yoga" and that he's invented "a system to enable persons to control computers with the power of thoughts."
Let's not credit him with awesomeness just yet...
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2013, 08:49:44 PM » |
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Can we sneak Orthodox bishops into the conclave and then elect an Orthodox Bishop of Rome? Paging Isa... |
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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2013, 10:23:25 PM » |
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The article says the guy also supports something called "Jesus Yoga" and that he's invented "a system to enable persons to control computers with the power of thoughts."
Let's not credit him with awesomeness just yet...
That's exactly what popped out to me as awesome |
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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2013, 11:55:32 PM » |
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Can we sneak Orthodox bishops into the conclave and then elect an Orthodox Bishop of Rome? Paging Isa... Are you proposing we just sneak Isa instead? That would actually be more awesome!   |
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« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2013, 12:52:16 AM » |
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in a totally unrelated but related story, I once went to a RC store & they spent about 30 minutes trying to figure out what "order" i'm from. when I told them I was an orthodox priest, they looked rather disappointed.
eh...I thought it amounted to the same thing.
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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2013, 06:45:55 AM » |
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Napierski is an episcopus vagante claiming episcopal orders from the Thuc lineage. Archbishop Ngô-dinh-Thuc in the last years of his life suffered from dementia and ordained and subsequently consecrated a number of bishops who took it upon themselves to erect any number of vagante ecclesiae which further flooded the so-called 'Independent Catholic and Orthodox Church' ranks. Like many of his genre, Napierski likewise claims sub conditione episcopal orders from a variety of other equally dubious lines - with Catholic, EO, EC, OO, and OC origins, if I remember correctly, as well as an Old Catholic or two. His personal 'Church', as already noted, is termed 'Corpus Dei'.
Like many of his ilk, the good bishop would appear to be the sole cleric and perhaps the entire congregation of his "Church". He's also a tad more 'out-there' than even most of them. As you'll see in reading his site, he goes to great lengths to make it appear that he's in communion with Rome and these folks generally are very adept at getting photo-ops, etc, that seem to make them appear legitimate. Unfortunately, one can find photos of any number of them with Popes, the EP, the MP, the Coptic Pope, and various other hierarchs. Had this character tried to pull this off with a bit more attention to his clerical garb or on a less unique occasion, you'd have probably seen him con-celebrating at the high altar of St Peter's.
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« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2013, 09:07:42 AM » |
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Napierski is an episcopus vagante claiming episcopal orders from the Thuc lineage. Archbishop Ngô-dinh-Thuc in the last years of his life suffered from dementia and ordained and subsequently consecrated a number of bishops who took it upon themselves to erect any number of vagante ecclesiae which further flooded the so-called 'Independent Catholic and Orthodox Church' ranks. Like many of his genre, Napierski likewise claims sub conditione episcopal orders from a variety of other equally dubious lines - with Catholic, EO, EC, OO, and OC origins, if I remember correctly, as well as an Old Catholic or two. His personal 'Church', as already noted, is termed 'Corpus Dei'.
Like many of his ilk, the good bishop would appear to be the sole cleric and perhaps the entire congregation of his "Church". He's also a tad more 'out-there' than even most of them. As you'll see in reading his site, he goes to great lengths to make it appear that he's in communion with Rome and these folks generally are very adept at getting photo-ops, etc, that seem to make them appear legitimate. Unfortunately, one can find photos of any number of them with Popes, the EP, the MP, the Coptic Pope, and various other hierarchs. Had this character tried to pull this off with a bit more attention to his clerical garb or on a less unique occasion, you'd have probably seen him con-celebrating at the high altar of St Peter's.
Many years,
Neil
posted from my laz-y-boy cathedra in my garage cum cathedral in this the 45th year of my reign as patriarch-archeparch of Slobbovia and the 450th of the Baptism of Slobbovia
Thanks, that bolsters my point about security. |
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« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2013, 09:33:40 AM » |
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The Orthodox Church, also, has these kooks, but they mostly seem to stay by themselves and disappear when you turn the lights on. How would we feel, if these people were as visible and brash and this guy would tried to enter the cardinals' meeting, did the same at an Orthodox gathering?
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« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2013, 11:02:16 AM » |
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in a totally unrelated but related story, I once went to a RC store & they spent about 30 minutes trying to figure out what "order" i'm from. when I told them I was an orthodox priest, they looked rather disappointed.
eh...I thought it amounted to the same thing.
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The Orthodox Church, also, has these kooks, but they mostly seem to stay by themselves and disappear when you turn the lights on. How would we feel, if these people were as visible and brash and this guy would tried to enter the cardinals' meeting, did the same at an Orthodox gathering?
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 Two thumbs down for a very lousy attempt. He could have at least tried to look like a cardinal. |
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