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« Reply #135 on: March 08, 2013, 01:04:55 PM »

IOW, they're doing this:


The only reason we have to do this is because your distortions are the like some one scratching a chalkbord.
Truth one doesn't want to hear always rings unpleasant.
You must know this from experience. How painful is it to you?
When I left Lutheranism, not painful at all.  The balm of Orthodoxy heals all wounds.
Your attacks on Catholics are still very Lutheran. Are you sure you converted?
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« Reply #136 on: March 08, 2013, 01:16:29 PM »

Hmm ... do we really want to get into the Who's-Lutheran question here?
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« Reply #137 on: March 08, 2013, 01:21:19 PM »

IOW, they're doing this:


The only reason we have to do this is because your distortions are the like some one scratching a chalkbord.
Truth one doesn't want to hear always rings unpleasant.
You must know this from experience. How painful is it to you?
When I left Lutheranism, not painful at all.  The balm of Orthodoxy heals all wounds.
Your attacks on Catholics are still very Lutheran. Are you sure you converted?
Quite sure. Have you?
Hmm ... do we really want to get into the Who's-Lutheran question here?
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,50261.0.html

Apologists for the Vatican are always saying that the Orthodox are just like the Protestants. After all, we both expose the sovereign of Vatican city and his claims for what they are, how can it be otherwise?  Roll Eyes

So, pray tell, what differentiates a Lutheran "attack" from an Orthodox "attack" on the Vatican?

If you can't make the distinction, then that exposes the "very Lutheran" for the ad hominem attack that it is.

Followers of the Vatican cannot demonstrate the papal dictate, just give it "religious submission of mind and will...in religious assent."
You are Eastern Orthodox.
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« Reply #138 on: March 08, 2013, 01:29:45 PM »

IOW, they're doing this:


The only reason we have to do this is because your distortions are the like some one scratching a chalkbord.
Truth one doesn't want to hear always rings unpleasant.
You must know this from experience. How painful is it to you?
When I left Lutheranism, not painful at all.  The balm of Orthodoxy heals all wounds.
Your attacks on Catholics are still very Lutheran. Are you sure you converted?
Quite sure. Have you?
Hmm ... do we really want to get into the Who's-Lutheran question here?
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,50261.0.html

Apologists for the Vatican are always saying that the Orthodox are just like the Protestants.

Not all of us.
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« Reply #139 on: March 08, 2013, 01:53:38 PM »

IOW, they're doing this:


The only reason we have to do this is because your distortions are the like some one scratching a chalkbord.
Truth one doesn't want to hear always rings unpleasant.
You must know this from experience. How painful is it to you?
When I left Lutheranism, not painful at all.  The balm of Orthodoxy heals all wounds.
Your attacks on Catholics are still very Lutheran. Are you sure you converted?
Quite sure. Have you?
Hmm ... do we really want to get into the Who's-Lutheran question here?
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,50261.0.html

Apologists for the Vatican are always saying that the Orthodox are just like the Protestants. After all, we both expose the sovereign of Vatican city and his claims for what they are, how can it be otherwise?  Roll Eyes

So, pray tell, what differentiates a Lutheran "attack" from an Orthodox "attack" on the Vatican?

If you can't make the distinction, then that exposes the "very Lutheran" for the ad hominem attack that it is.

Followers of the Vatican cannot demonstrate the papal dictate, just give it "religious submission of mind and will...in religious assent."
You are Eastern Orthodox.
I don't think that all Orthodox are protestants. I only think those who continue the Protestant attack on Catholics are Protestants.
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« Reply #140 on: March 08, 2013, 01:56:42 PM »

Might it be that the Reformers got most of their arguments against the Papacy from the Eastern Orthodox?
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« Reply #141 on: March 08, 2013, 01:58:40 PM »

Might it be that the Reformers got most of their arguments against the Papacy from the Eastern Orthodox?
That's not what I am talking about. What I am talking about is Isa's irrational rage against "The Vatican."
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« Reply #142 on: March 08, 2013, 02:02:13 PM »

Might it be that the Reformers got most of their arguments against the Papacy from the Eastern Orthodox?

Quite possible.  But remember the EO and the Protestants have different views on the Papacy.  We still view the Pope as a bishop that is necessary for the Church, albeit we do not agree with how his role is defined and even dogmatized.  Most Protestants don't even believe in the Episcopacy.  They don't reject the Pope because of universal ordinary jurisdiction or supremacy or infallibility.  They reject the Papacy because they reject the Episcopacy overall.
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« Reply #143 on: March 08, 2013, 02:02:40 PM »

IOW, they're doing this:


The only reason we have to do this is because your distortions are the like some one scratching a chalkbord.
Truth one doesn't want to hear always rings unpleasant.
You must know this from experience. How painful is it to you?
When I left Lutheranism, not painful at all.  The balm of Orthodoxy heals all wounds.
Your attacks on Catholics are still very Lutheran. Are you sure you converted?
Quite sure. Have you?
Hmm ... do we really want to get into the Who's-Lutheran question here?
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,50261.0.html

Apologists for the Vatican are always saying that the Orthodox are just like the Protestants. After all, we both expose the sovereign of Vatican city and his claims for what they are, how can it be otherwise?  Roll Eyes

So, pray tell, what differentiates a Lutheran "attack" from an Orthodox "attack" on the Vatican?

If you can't make the distinction, then that exposes the "very Lutheran" for the ad hominem attack that it is.

Followers of the Vatican cannot demonstrate the papal dictate, just give it "religious submission of mind and will...in religious assent."
You are Eastern Orthodox.
I don't think that all Orthodox are protestants. I only think those who continue the Protestant attack on Catholics are Protestants.
The Protestants came into existence in 1517 (a century or so earlier, if you count the Waldensians).  The Catholics have been forming the Orthodox resistance to Ultramontanism ever since it took over Old Rome, e.g. St. Photios the Great Encyclical to the Eastern Patriarchs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1424683/posts
centuries earlier than the Lutheran Book of Concorde's "Treatise on the Power and Primacy of the Pop"
http://bookofconcord.org/treatise.php
or if you prefer the orginal Latin
http://bookofconcord.org/pdf/triglotta_book_of_concord_pp267-1285_german_latin_only.pdf
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« Reply #144 on: March 08, 2013, 02:06:12 PM »

IOW, they're doing this:


The only reason we have to do this is because your distortions are the like some one scratching a chalkbord.
Truth one doesn't want to hear always rings unpleasant.
You must know this from experience. How painful is it to you?
When I left Lutheranism, not painful at all.  The balm of Orthodoxy heals all wounds.
Your attacks on Catholics are still very Lutheran. Are you sure you converted?
Quite sure. Have you?
Hmm ... do we really want to get into the Who's-Lutheran question here?
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,50261.0.html

Apologists for the Vatican are always saying that the Orthodox are just like the Protestants. After all, we both expose the sovereign of Vatican city and his claims for what they are, how can it be otherwise?  Roll Eyes

So, pray tell, what differentiates a Lutheran "attack" from an Orthodox "attack" on the Vatican?

If you can't make the distinction, then that exposes the "very Lutheran" for the ad hominem attack that it is.

Followers of the Vatican cannot demonstrate the papal dictate, just give it "religious submission of mind and will...in religious assent."
You are Eastern Orthodox.
I don't think that all Orthodox are protestants. I only think those who continue the Protestant attack on Catholics are Protestants.
When you constantly engage in irrational and rude attacks on the Catholic Church, that betrays a very protestant mindset.
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« Reply #145 on: March 08, 2013, 02:07:00 PM »

Might it be that the Reformers got most of their arguments against the Papacy from the Eastern Orthodox?

Quite possible.  But remember the EO and the Protestants have different views on the Papacy.  We still view the Pope as a bishop that is necessary for the Church, albeit we do not agree with how his role is defined and even dogmatized.  Most Protestants don't even believe in the Episcopacy.  They don't reject the Pope because of universal ordinary jurisdiction or supremacy or infallibility.  They reject the Papacy because they reject the Episcopacy overall.

Yes, that is so. Yet I think that the early Reformers got many of their arguments against the Papacy from the Eastern Orthodox, and not the other way around. Calling EO attacks on the RC's "protestant" seems weird to me.
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« Reply #146 on: March 08, 2013, 02:14:05 PM »

Might it be that the Reformers got most of their arguments against the Papacy from the Eastern Orthodox?

Quite possible.  But remember the EO and the Protestants have different views on the Papacy.  We still view the Pope as a bishop that is necessary for the Church, albeit we do not agree with how his role is defined and even dogmatized.  Most Protestants don't even believe in the Episcopacy.  They don't reject the Pope because of universal ordinary jurisdiction or supremacy or infallibility.  They reject the Papacy because they reject the Episcopacy overall.

Yes, that is so. Yet I think that the early Reformers got many of their arguments against the Papacy from the Eastern Orthodox, and not the other way around. Calling EO attacks on the RC's "protestant" seems weird to me.
Again, I'm this is not what I'm referring to. It's Izzy's overall rude and irrational attack on Cathoclicism which is very protestant. The reason Protestants exist is to protest the Catholic Church. This seems to be Izzy's reason for being here.
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« Reply #147 on: March 08, 2013, 02:17:59 PM »

Might it be that the Reformers got most of their arguments against the Papacy from the Eastern Orthodox?

Quite possible.  But remember the EO and the Protestants have different views on the Papacy.  We still view the Pope as a bishop that is necessary for the Church, albeit we do not agree with how his role is defined and even dogmatized.  Most Protestants don't even believe in the Episcopacy.  They don't reject the Pope because of universal ordinary jurisdiction or supremacy or infallibility.  They reject the Papacy because they reject the Episcopacy overall.

Yes, that is so. Yet I think that the early Reformers got many of their arguments against the Papacy from the Eastern Orthodox, and not the other way around. Calling EO attacks on the RC's "protestant" seems weird to me.

Oh definitely.  Didn't some of the early Protestants try to forge an alliance with the EO to battle Rome (in a theological debate sense)?  The funny thing I found when I was Catholic and listening to all the rhetorics and polemics against the Catholic Church, the anti-Catholics would actually side with one another and agree on whatever they can dish against the Roman Catholic Church.  They would even side with the Restorationists and the Muslims.  And like my question on the thread about Mary having more children, most of these attacks don't even have a basis in their own belief.  They just adopt them to attack the RCs even though it has no bearing in their own beliefs.
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« Reply #148 on: March 08, 2013, 02:24:39 PM »

IOW, they're doing this:


The only reason we have to do this is because your distortions are the like some one scratching a chalkbord.
Truth one doesn't want to hear always rings unpleasant.
You must know this from experience. How painful is it to you?
When I left Lutheranism, not painful at all.  The balm of Orthodoxy heals all wounds.
Your attacks on Catholics are still very Lutheran. Are you sure you converted?
Quite sure. Have you?
Hmm ... do we really want to get into the Who's-Lutheran question here?
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,50261.0.html

Apologists for the Vatican are always saying that the Orthodox are just like the Protestants. After all, we both expose the sovereign of Vatican city and his claims for what they are, how can it be otherwise?  Roll Eyes

So, pray tell, what differentiates a Lutheran "attack" from an Orthodox "attack" on the Vatican?

If you can't make the distinction, then that exposes the "very Lutheran" for the ad hominem attack that it is.

Followers of the Vatican cannot demonstrate the papal dictate, just give it "religious submission of mind and will...in religious assent."
You are Eastern Orthodox.
I don't think that all Orthodox are protestants. I only think those who continue the Protestant attack on Catholics are Protestants.
When you constantly engage in irrational and rude attacks on the Catholic Church, that betrays a very protestant mindset.
Sic Papistus dixit ex cathedra March 8, 2013 +

Engaging in irrational rude attacks in protest betrays that you have lost the argument.
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« Reply #149 on: March 08, 2013, 02:31:26 PM »

We still view the Pope as a bishop that is necessary for the Church,

Not sure who do you mean by "we". Eastern Orthodox Christian do not view bishop of Rome to  be necessary at all. We are without him for about 1k years and are doing just fine.
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« Reply #150 on: March 08, 2013, 02:36:56 PM »

I thought that he meant to say that the Church needs the office of the bishop.
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« Reply #151 on: March 08, 2013, 02:37:54 PM »

We still view the Pope as a bishop that is necessary for the Church,

Not sure who do you mean by "we". Eastern Orthodox Christian do not view bishop of Rome to  be necessary at all. We are without him for about 1k years and are doing just fine.

Okay, let me break it down for you here.

We view that a bishop is necessary for a Church.  And the Pope is such a bishop.
Protestants, at least most of them, not all, do not even believe that a bishop is necesary.

Clearer?
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« Reply #152 on: March 08, 2013, 02:38:40 PM »

I thought that he meant to say that the Church needs the office of the bishop.

Thank you.  I was worried my choice of words were wrong.  I guess they are just a bit confusing.  But you understood what I was saying, thanks.  Smiley
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« Reply #153 on: March 08, 2013, 02:38:48 PM »

Might it be that the Reformers got most of their arguments against the Papacy from the Eastern Orthodox?

Quite possible.  But remember the EO and the Protestants have different views on the Papacy.  We still view the Pope as a bishop that is necessary for the Church, albeit we do not agree with how his role is defined and even dogmatized.  Most Protestants don't even believe in the Episcopacy.  They don't reject the Pope because of universal ordinary jurisdiction or supremacy or infallibility.  They reject the Papacy because they reject the Episcopacy overall.

Yes, that is so. Yet I think that the early Reformers got many of their arguments against the Papacy from the Eastern Orthodox, and not the other way around. Calling EO attacks on the RC's "protestant" seems weird to me.
Again, I'm this is not what I'm referring to. It's Izzy's
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overall rude and irrational attack on Cathoclicism which is very protestant.
an ad hominem attack is rude and irrational.

You have the links to a Protestant/Lutheran attack on the Vatican, and an refutation of the Vatican's claims by the pillar of Orthodoxy, St. Photius the Great

The reason Protestants exist is to protest the Catholic Church.
It seems that you agree with the Protestants: they assUmed, as shown by the correspondence of the Tubingen Lutheran theologians with EP Jeremiah II, the same assertion you are making, and concluded that they and Orthodoxy were one and the same.  The EP disabused them of such folly.

This seems to be Izzy's
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I'm just here as a Catholic defending the Orthodox Faith.
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« Reply #154 on: March 08, 2013, 02:44:26 PM »

IOW, they're doing this:


The only reason we have to do this is because your distortions are the like some one scratching a chalkbord.
Truth one doesn't want to hear always rings unpleasant.
You must know this from experience. How painful is it to you?
When I left Lutheranism, not painful at all.  The balm of Orthodoxy heals all wounds.
Your attacks on Catholics are still very Lutheran. Are you sure you converted?
Quite sure. Have you?
Hmm ... do we really want to get into the Who's-Lutheran question here?
http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php/topic,50261.0.html

Yes, I remember that "Papist is really a Lutheran" thread. Can't say I was sorry to see the mods lock it.
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« Reply #155 on: March 08, 2013, 02:45:56 PM »

Might it be that the Reformers got most of their arguments against the Papacy from the Eastern Orthodox?

If you mean most of their best arguments, I'd say Yes.
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« Reply #156 on: March 08, 2013, 03:38:27 PM »

We view that a bishop is necessary for a Church.

Specified bishop? No.

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Roman Pope? There isn't one.
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« Reply #157 on: March 08, 2013, 03:52:38 PM »

We view that a bishop is necessary for a Church.

Specified bishop? No.

Where did I say that?  I said A bishop.  And St. Ignatius of Antioch teaches that.

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Roman Pope? There isn't one.

There is, and he is in schism from us.  But he is still a bishop.  He is not an Orthodox bishop, but he is a bishop.
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« Reply #158 on: March 08, 2013, 03:53:05 PM »

We view that a bishop is necessary for a Church.

Specified bishop? No.

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Roman Pope? There isn't one.

Yes, the "sede" is currently, and temporarily, "vacant".  Wink
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« Reply #159 on: March 08, 2013, 03:53:49 PM »

Yes, the "sede" is currently, and temporarily, "vacant".  Wink

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« Reply #160 on: March 08, 2013, 03:54:40 PM »

Yes, the "sede" is currently, and temporarily, "vacant".  Wink

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Yes, the "sede" is currently, and temporarily, "vacant".  Wink

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Well, as a Byzantine Catholic, I do love my Eastern traditions!!  Wink
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« Reply #163 on: March 08, 2013, 03:56:54 PM »

Yes, the "sede" is currently, and temporarily, "vacant".  Wink

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« Reply #164 on: March 08, 2013, 03:57:06 PM »

There is, and he is in schism from us.  But he is still a bishop.

Do you consider Abp of Canterbury a Bishop too?
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« Reply #165 on: March 08, 2013, 03:57:22 PM »


Speaking of Traddies, some of the traditioinalists over at another forum called me a "modernist" yeterstday.  Cheesy

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That must be a pretty traditionalist forum.
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« Reply #166 on: March 08, 2013, 03:58:12 PM »

Yes, the "sede" is currently, and temporarily, "vacant".  Wink

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« Reply #167 on: March 08, 2013, 04:01:32 PM »

Yes, the "sede" is currently, and temporarily, "vacant".  Wink

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I can't: "papism" is a forbidden word.
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« Reply #168 on: March 08, 2013, 04:04:28 PM »

Yes, the "sede" is currently, and temporarily, "vacant".  Wink

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« Reply #169 on: March 08, 2013, 05:22:00 PM »

Speaking of Traddies, some of the traditioinalists over at another forum called me a "modernist" yeterstday.  Cheesy

Oh, I've been there. Smiley Well, I don't recall whether they ever called me by that specific term, but that's the gist of what a lot of Catholics (including some that I don't think are really traditional themselves) on Catholic fora think of me.
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« Reply #170 on: March 08, 2013, 05:22:47 PM »

Or maybe Traddies are just normal traddie, and ultra-traddies are really modernists with such guilt over the matter that they pretend to be traddies.
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« Reply #171 on: March 08, 2013, 05:24:12 PM »

Or maybe Traddies are just normal traddie, and ultra-traddies are really modernists with such guilt over the matter that they pretend to be traddies.
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« Reply #172 on: March 08, 2013, 05:25:44 PM »

"papism" is a forbidden word.

Hmmm ... maybe after all these years, we should start a "Change Papist's Screenname" campaign.

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« Reply #173 on: March 08, 2013, 05:28:34 PM »

I thought "Papism" was only forbidden by the Southern Baptists and the Presbyterians...
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« Reply #174 on: March 08, 2013, 05:33:59 PM »

I thought "Papism" was only forbidden by the Southern Baptists and the Presbyterians...

Yes, but forbidden nonetheless.  Isa didn't qualify it any further than that.  Grin
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« Reply #175 on: March 08, 2013, 05:37:05 PM »

I suppose it's proper but improper- like adding the Pope's name to the great litany for vespers at home, then realising you're not supposed to say the great litany for readers services.  Shocked
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« Reply #176 on: March 08, 2013, 05:49:39 PM »

What's not to like about Papist?  Wink  (Isa, don't answer that  Grin!)

The fact that his username got me banned from CAF  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #177 on: March 08, 2013, 05:51:43 PM »

There is, and he is in schism from us.  But he is still a bishop.

Do you consider Abp of Canterbury a Bishop too?

If the Pope become Orthodox, will be he reordained or be treated as just a layman?
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« Reply #178 on: March 08, 2013, 05:55:07 PM »

What's not to like about Papist?  Wink  (Isa, don't answer that  Grin!)

The fact that his username got me banned from CAF  Grin Grin Grin

How the heck did *that* happen??
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« Reply #179 on: March 08, 2013, 06:00:52 PM »

What's not to like about Papist?  Wink  (Isa, don't answer that  Grin!)

The fact that his username got me banned from CAF  Grin Grin Grin

Welcome to the ranks of our group of those illustrous men banished from CAF.
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