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Offline irene

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confused!!!
« on: January 15, 2005, 10:09:17 AM »
Hi!
I have been studying Orthodoxy for awhile now, (on my own), and am confused about something.
There is an Albanian Orthodox Church not far from me, and that is the one I will be going to.  I'm not Albanian, but it seems to have people from different ethnic backgrounds, although, it is a small church.
Anyway, going off track!, it is American Orthodox.
Do Greek Orthodox Churches share the same Saints and Feast Days?  Or, do they just have many of the same ways, and share Orthodoxy?  Also, Serbian, Russian, etc... are we all on the same page so to speak?  Could you walk into a Greek Orthodox Church on a Sunday, although, you have been going to the Albanian for ex., and be doing the same Scripture for that day?
Thank you.   ???
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Re: confused!!!
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2005, 10:24:21 AM »
Generally, I think they are on the same page as long as they are also on the same church calendar (some use the "new" calendar, others use the "old" one). There are some differences in dates saints are commemorated and whatnot, and there might be some difference in lectionary/scriptural stuff, but I think generally if you can get a calendar from each church (which they can usually give you) you can pretty much figure out what's going on without too much trouble. And, worse case scenario, if you really want to know, shoot an email or AIM message or phone call off to a priest or priest's wife or someone at the Church and ask them; admittedly priests are pretty hard to get ahold of sometimes, but normally they're very willing to help once you DO get ahold of them! :)
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Re: confused!!!
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2005, 02:07:05 PM »
Irene,

Almost all of the churches in the USA are on the New Calendar and as such will have the same stuff going on each Sunday, except for a few times a year when Arab/Greek and Slavic lectionaries differ (not that often though).

Those on the Old Calendar will have different feast days (13 days later for all fixed feasts; movable feasts like Pascha fall on the same day though).  Albanians, Greeks, Romanians, the OCA, etc. are all New Calendar; Serbs, some Carpatho-Rusyns, ROCOR, and the Moscow Patriarchal parishes are Old Calendar.

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Re: confused!!!
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2005, 09:59:07 AM »
Yes, each church will "feel" different. Every Orthodox church will have it's particular style and way of doing things. For example.... I belong to a Serbian church and our choir sang at the local Greek Orthodox church while the choir members of the Greek Orthodox church prepared a dinner for a special event. This was around christmas time and the Greek church iconistasis was bedecked with Christmas finery. Everyone in the choir was curious as to why the icon of christ was wearing  a fake plastic green garland. Near the cantor stand was a HUGE christmas tree. Serbian churches typically do not have christmas trees, as using an evergreen tree traditional in Western Europe and America. So, yes people talked and wondered.  I won't even mention the funny looks people were giving each other when the organist appeared in the choir loft and began to play "Oh come all ye Faithful" at the end of liturgy.

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As for saints, yes all orthodox churches acknowlege ALL orthodox saints whether they are Greek, Arab, Russian or Serbian. However, the emphasis on particular saints will vary. For example, you wouldn't here much about Saint Sava in a Greek church. However, he would still be considered a saint in the Greek church, he wouldn't get as much "air time" as Saint Spyriodon.

If you walked into a Serbian Church on one Sunday then went to a Greek church on the following Sunday, you would notice a different in the scripture. Especially if you attended around a major feast or fast. This is due to the difference in calendar. However if you went to an OCA church on one Sunday and went to a Greek chuch the next Sunday, you probably wouldn't notice much differnce at all since they are on the "New Calendar"

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Re: confused!!!
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2005, 10:44:10 AM »
Hello,

Now I get it, thanks!

irene  ;D

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Re: confused!!!
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2005, 11:49:12 AM »
Hi!
I have been studying Orthodoxy for awhile now, (on my own), and am confused about something.
There is an Albanian Orthodox Church not far from me, and that is the one I will be going to. I'm not Albanian, but it seems to have people from different ethnic backgrounds, although, it is a small church.
Anyway, going off track!, it is American Orthodox.
Do Greek Orthodox Churches share the same Saints and Feast Days? Or, do they just have many of the same ways, and share Orthodoxy? Also, Serbian, Russian, etc... are we all on the same page so to speak? Could you walk into a Greek Orthodox Church on a Sunday, although, you have been going to the Albanian for ex., and be doing the same Scripture for that day?
Thank you. ???
Irene  
 

here is an american orthodox webiste that contatins what you are looking for. You can fine the church's calandar...and feast days.

http://www.oca.org/

I think this is an american orthodox...well someone will correct me if I am wrong...
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Re: confused!!!
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2005, 12:30:06 PM »
They're all American Orthodox, because they're in America. It's just a matter of who is running the governmental issues and the background that the parishioners come from. The ethnic demarcation in the name of the church doesn't matter. Eastern Orthodox is Eastern Orthodox.
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Re: confused!!!
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2005, 03:07:02 PM »
Those on the Old Calendar will have different feast days (13 days later for all fixed feasts; movable feasts like Pascha fall on the same day though). Albanians, Greeks, Romanians, the OCA, etc. are all New Calendar; Serbs, some Carpatho-Rusyns, ROCOR, and the Moscow Patriarchal parishes are Old Calendar.
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Minor correction,
Some OCA Churches are on the Old Calender.  Like some in Washington DC and in Canada.  We even have an Old Calender Monastary.

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Re: confused!!!
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2005, 03:32:03 PM »


Minor correction,
Some OCA Churches are on the Old Calender. Like some in Washington DC and in Canada. We even have an Old Calender Monastary.

There are five in the Russian District Deanery as well within the Diocese of the West:  SF on Anza St., Menlo Park, Berkeley, Santa Barbara and West Sacramento.  They are OC and Slavonic.

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Re: confused!!!
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2005, 03:34:24 PM »
Thanks for letting me know.  It appears we have more than I thought.