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« on: March 02, 2013, 02:57:41 AM » |
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Can someone please explain the using of spoons to distribute Eucharist? Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2013, 03:27:09 AM » |
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Do you want to know about the mechanics? The history? The theology?
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2013, 07:40:04 AM » |
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Can someone please explain the using of spoons to distribute Eucharist? Thanks.
Priests puts it into the chalice, gets some Eucharist and gives to the people.
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2013, 05:15:28 PM » |
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Do you want to know about the mechanics? The history? The theology?
History and theology please. Thank you!
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2013, 05:18:48 PM » |
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Theology of spoon  a) it's just safer to distribute than drinking from the chalice directly b) priest can controll the amount given so than it will be enough for everyone
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2013, 07:35:41 PM » |
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In the Early Church everyone received the Eucharist in their hands and by sipping from the chalice. Considering that these elements are holy, the Church was concerned that the elements could accidentally be dropped on the floor or spilt. By the ninth century, they were mixed and Priests carefully placing them into the mouths of the communicants with a spoon.
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2013, 01:43:31 PM » |
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not all orthodox churches mix the elements.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2013, 01:45:20 PM » |
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Not during every Liturgy...
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2013, 03:23:54 PM » |
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not all orthodox churches mix the elements. Just to clarify: He is referring to the Oriental "Miaphysites". In that communion there are certain churches which don't do this as they have various rites between national churches. In "Byzantine/Imperial" Orthodoxy, the praxis is uniform and uses a spoon, also called the "tongs" in reference to Isaiah's coal on the lips, I think.
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2013, 03:35:48 PM » |
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A RC deacon once told me that the distribution of the Eucharist in the Orthodox Church was not hygienic. 
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2013, 05:16:14 PM » |
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A RC deacon once told me that the distribution of the Eucharist in the Orthodox Church was not hygienic.  Salvation is messy business.
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Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more. A hasty quarrel kindles fire, and urgent strife sheds blood. If you blow on a spark, it will glow; if you spit on it, it will be put out; and both come out of your mouth
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2013, 05:17:16 PM » |
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In the Early Church everyone received the Eucharist in their hands and by sipping from the chalice. Considering that these elements are holy, the Church was concerned that the elements could accidentally be dropped on the floor or spilt. By the ninth century, they were mixed and Priests carefully placing them into the mouths of the communicants with a spoon.
there were also straws. I kid you not. 
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Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more. A hasty quarrel kindles fire, and urgent strife sheds blood. If you blow on a spark, it will glow; if you spit on it, it will be put out; and both come out of your mouth
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2013, 07:24:34 PM » |
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In the Early Church everyone received the Eucharist in their hands and by sipping from the chalice. Considering that these elements are holy, the Church was concerned that the elements could accidentally be dropped on the floor or spilt. By the ninth century, they were mixed and Priests carefully placing them into the mouths of the communicants with a spoon.
there were also straws. I kid you not.  Golden straws would be awesome.
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