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This is one of the most mindnumbingly stupid things I've ever read.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rajiv-malhotra/dharma-and-the-new-pope_b_2755683.html

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If the Vatican would drop claims of exclusivity over religious truth, and reexamine dogmas such as the Nicene Creed, it would pressure other denominations of Christianity to follow suit. The Vatican, after all, is the single largest corporate institution of any religion in the world. The moral pressure on others would be huge if the Pope were to champion a new world order among all faiths in earnest, and not as a gimmick to increase his own flock. Once Christendom becomes genuinely pluralistic, Islam and other exclusivist religions would be under pressure to follow suit. The leader of the Catholic Church can thus change the world.

Being realistic, however, I do not expect to see a Gorbachev-like new pope who would challenge the Vatican as radically as Gorbachev challenged the Soviet empire. But let this historic opportunity not get lost. The conversation must begin.

If anyone questions the propriety of my raising this issue on the grounds that I am an outsider to the Catholic Church, let me simply say that as a world citizen I am a stakeholder in the outcome of this process. I do not think the Vatican can continue to operate with respect and legitimacy if it fails to attend to voices such as mine.
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Yeah! Let non-Americans have a voice in selecting the POTUS as well! So we choose who to be screwed over by! 8)
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Pffft. We've had a new Pope since November, random Indian goofball.

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That'd be like letting the religious have a voice on titling a Richard Dawkins book, or allowing a Jew to have a voice on how the butcher ought to prepare his pork.
...Or it's just possible he's a mouthy young man on an internet forum.
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I am always surprised at postmodern secularists' delusion that the Pope has the power to do what they desire. FYI: He's only the Pope!

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Well it did come from huffing pot...
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I am always surprised at postmodern secularists' delusion that the Pope has the power to do what they desire. FYI: He's only the Pope!
All that power from the chair is a little scary.
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Forgot to add to my post, yeah pot is a sin.
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Forgot to add to my post, yeah pot is a sin.

Your post? Which one? :P
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Another example of how mindless and immoral too many people and too many media outlets have become in today's society.
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Another example of how mindless and immoral too many people and too many media outlets have become in today's society.
Yes, like the gay restaurant critic at the NY Times who did the op end that the Vatican should end celibacy.
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This is one of the most mindnumbingly stupid things I've ever read.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rajiv-malhotra/dharma-and-the-new-pope_b_2755683.html

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If the Vatican would drop claims of exclusivity over religious truth, and reexamine dogmas such as the Nicene Creed, it would pressure other denominations of Christianity to follow suit. The Vatican, after all, is the single largest corporate institution of any religion in the world. The moral pressure on others would be huge if the Pope were to champion a new world order among all faiths in earnest, and not as a gimmick to increase his own flock. Once Christendom becomes genuinely pluralistic, Islam and other exclusivist religions would be under pressure to follow suit. The leader of the Catholic Church can thus change the world.

Being realistic, however, I do not expect to see a Gorbachev-like new pope who would challenge the Vatican as radically as Gorbachev challenged the Soviet empire. But let this historic opportunity not get lost. The conversation must begin.

If anyone questions the propriety of my raising this issue on the grounds that I am an outsider to the Catholic Church, let me simply say that as a world citizen I am a stakeholder in the outcome of this process. I do not think the Vatican can continue to operate with respect and legitimacy if it fails to attend to voices such as mine.
It seems that he missed the part where Gorbachev's Soviet system collapsed.

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I am always surprised at postmodern secularists' delusion that the Pope has the power to do what they desire. FYI: He's only the Pope!
yes, it turns out that absolute monarchs, with rare exceptions (like Holy Emperor Constantine), rarely have the power to change the system that props them up.
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I am always surprised at postmodern secularists' delusion that the Pope has the power to do what they desire. FYI: He's only the Pope!
All that power from the chair is a little scary.
I promise there's not a pope under your bed.

You are right. I apologize for having sacked Constantinople. I really need to stop doing that.

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I am always surprised at postmodern secularists' delusion that the Pope has the power to do what they desire. FYI: He's only the Pope!
All that power from the chair is a little scary.
I promise there's not a pope under your bed.


What are you doing under Achronos' bed? ::)
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I am always surprised at postmodern secularists' delusion that the Pope has the power to do what they desire. FYI: He's only the Pope!
All that power from the chair is a little scary.
I promise there's not a pope under your bed.


What are you doing under Achronos' bed? ::)
Only in your fantasies my my friend.
You are right. I apologize for having sacked Constantinople. I really need to stop doing that.

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Well it did come from huffing pot...

...which is owned by the self-hating Greek woman ;)


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What are you doing under Achronos' bed? ::)
I knew there were some papal boogeymen under my bed keeping me up at night.
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