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This is one of the most mindnumbingly stupid things I've ever read. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rajiv-malhotra/dharma-and-the-new-pope_b_2755683.htmlIf the Vatican would drop claims of exclusivity over religious truth, and reexamine dogmas such as the Nicene Creed, it would pressure other denominations of Christianity to follow suit. The Vatican, after all, is the single largest corporate institution of any religion in the world. The moral pressure on others would be huge if the Pope were to champion a new world order among all faiths in earnest, and not as a gimmick to increase his own flock. Once Christendom becomes genuinely pluralistic, Islam and other exclusivist religions would be under pressure to follow suit. The leader of the Catholic Church can thus change the world.
Being realistic, however, I do not expect to see a Gorbachev-like new pope who would challenge the Vatican as radically as Gorbachev challenged the Soviet empire. But let this historic opportunity not get lost. The conversation must begin.
If anyone questions the propriety of my raising this issue on the grounds that I am an outsider to the Catholic Church, let me simply say that as a world citizen I am a stakeholder in the outcome of this process. I do not think the Vatican can continue to operate with respect and legitimacy if it fails to attend to voices such as mine. |
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2013, 03:49:04 AM » |
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Yeah! Let non-Americans have a voice in selecting the POTUS as well! So we choose who to be screwed over by!  |
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2013, 04:01:18 AM » |
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Pffft. We've had a new Pope since November, random Indian goofball.
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2013, 04:13:34 AM » |
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That'd be like letting the religious have a voice on titling a Richard Dawkins book, or allowing a Jew to have a voice on how the butcher ought to prepare his pork.
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2013, 05:02:36 AM » |
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I am always surprised at postmodern secularists' delusion that the Pope has the power to do what they desire. FYI: He's only the Pope!
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2013, 05:21:13 AM » |
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Well it did come from huffing pot...
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2013, 05:21:13 AM » |
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I am always surprised at postmodern secularists' delusion that the Pope has the power to do what they desire. FYI: He's only the Pope!
All that power from the chair is a little scary. |
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“Without music, life would be a mistake.”
“The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.”
"Face the facts of being what you are, for that is what changes what you are."
"We see at once that the words absolute, divine, eternal, and so on do not express what is implied in them.
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Achronos
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2013, 05:21:13 AM » |
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Forgot to add to my post, yeah pot is a sin.
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“Without music, life would be a mistake.”
“The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.”
"Face the facts of being what you are, for that is what changes what you are."
"We see at once that the words absolute, divine, eternal, and so on do not express what is implied in them.
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ironchapman
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2013, 05:26:47 AM » |
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Forgot to add to my post, yeah pot is a sin.
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." --Bertrand Russell
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2013, 07:50:21 AM » |
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Another example of how mindless and immoral too many people and too many media outlets have become in today's society.
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2013, 10:30:47 AM » |
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Another example of how mindless and immoral too many people and too many media outlets have become in today's society.
Yes, like the gay restaurant critic at the NY Times who did the op end that the Vatican should end celibacy. |
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2013, 10:32:27 AM » |
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This is one of the most mindnumbingly stupid things I've ever read. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rajiv-malhotra/dharma-and-the-new-pope_b_2755683.htmlIf the Vatican would drop claims of exclusivity over religious truth, and reexamine dogmas such as the Nicene Creed, it would pressure other denominations of Christianity to follow suit. The Vatican, after all, is the single largest corporate institution of any religion in the world. The moral pressure on others would be huge if the Pope were to champion a new world order among all faiths in earnest, and not as a gimmick to increase his own flock. Once Christendom becomes genuinely pluralistic, Islam and other exclusivist religions would be under pressure to follow suit. The leader of the Catholic Church can thus change the world.
Being realistic, however, I do not expect to see a Gorbachev-like new pope who would challenge the Vatican as radically as Gorbachev challenged the Soviet empire. But let this historic opportunity not get lost. The conversation must begin.
If anyone questions the propriety of my raising this issue on the grounds that I am an outsider to the Catholic Church, let me simply say that as a world citizen I am a stakeholder in the outcome of this process. I do not think the Vatican can continue to operate with respect and legitimacy if it fails to attend to voices such as mine. It seems that he missed the part where Gorbachev's Soviet system collapsed. Who cares what you think? |
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Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.
A hasty quarrel kindles fire,
and urgent strife sheds blood.
If you blow on a spark, it will glow;
if you spit on it, it will be put out;
and both come out of your mouth
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2013, 10:35:37 AM » |
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I am always surprised at postmodern secularists' delusion that the Pope has the power to do what they desire. FYI: He's only the Pope!
yes, it turns out that absolute monarchs, with rare exceptions (like Holy Emperor Constantine), rarely have the power to change the system that props them up. |
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Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.
A hasty quarrel kindles fire,
and urgent strife sheds blood.
If you blow on a spark, it will glow;
if you spit on it, it will be put out;
and both come out of your mouth
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2013, 10:45:32 AM » |
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I am always surprised at postmodern secularists' delusion that the Pope has the power to do what they desire. FYI: He's only the Pope!
All that power from the chair is a little scary. I promise there's not a pope under your bed.  |
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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2013, 10:49:52 AM » |
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I am always surprised at postmodern secularists' delusion that the Pope has the power to do what they desire. FYI: He's only the Pope!
All that power from the chair is a little scary. I promise there's not a pope under your bed. What are you doing under Achronos' bed?  |
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Question a friend, perhaps he did not do it; but if he did anything so that he may do it no more.
A hasty quarrel kindles fire,
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If you blow on a spark, it will glow;
if you spit on it, it will be put out;
and both come out of your mouth
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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2013, 10:55:56 AM » |
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I am always surprised at postmodern secularists' delusion that the Pope has the power to do what they desire. FYI: He's only the Pope!
All that power from the chair is a little scary. I promise there's not a pope under your bed. What are you doing under Achronos' bed? Only in your fantasies my my friend. |
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"The only-begotten Son of God, wanting us to be partakers of his divinity, assumed our human nature so that, having become man, he might make men gods." - St. Thomas Aquinas
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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2013, 10:58:29 AM » |
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Well it did come from huffing pot...
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Achronos
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2013, 08:46:48 PM » |
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What are you doing under Achronos' bed? I knew there were some papal boogeymen under my bed keeping me up at night. |
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“Without music, life would be a mistake.”
“The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.”
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