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Offline William

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Was Mary resurrected?
« on: May 12, 2013, 01:41:35 AM »
Since her body was taken into Heaven at the Dormition, was she resurrected like Christ and like all of humanity at the end of the world?
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Re: Was Mary resurrected?
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2013, 01:54:03 AM »
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Re: Was Mary resurrected?
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2013, 06:53:00 AM »

A clarification: She was mysteriously translated bodily to heaven, but she is alive today in the same manner as the saints in heaven are alive. She did not rise from the dead in the manner that Christ did. Nowhere in the hymnography for the feast of the Dormition is there mention of her being resurrected:

Some selections from this feast:

In giving birth you retained your virginity; in falling asleep, O Mother of God, you did not abandon the world. You passed over into life, you, the Mother of life; and by your prayers you deliver our souls from death. (Troparion of the feast)

It was fitting for the eye-witnesses and ministers of the Word to see the Falling Asleep of His Mother according to the flesh, the final mystery concerning her, that they might not only see the Ascension of the Saviour from the earth, but also be witnesses to the Translation from earth of her who bore Him. Therefore, carried over from all parts by divine power, they came to Zion and escorted her, as she who is higher than the Cherubim hastened towards heaven. With them we venerate her as she intercedes for our souls.

When you departed, Virgin Mother of God, to Him who was born ineffably from you, James, God’s brother and first Hierarch, was present with Peter, the most honoured high summit of the Theologians, and all the godly choir of the Apostles; in teachings that revealed the things of God they sang in praise of the divine and amazing mystery of Christ’s dispensation; and as they buried your body, the source of life and which had received God, O all-praised Lady, they rejoiced. From above the all-holy and most venerable of the Angelic Powers, amazed at the wonder, bowed and said to one another: ‘Raise your gates and receive her who gave birth to the Maker of heaven and earth. And let us praise with hymns of glory the revered and holy body which contained the Lord on whom we may not look’. Therefore we too, as we celebrate your memory, cry out to you, all-praised: ‘Exalt the horn of Christians and save our souls’.

Pure Virgin, sprung from mortal loins, your final departure was in conformity with nature; but, as you gave birth to the true life, you have passed over to the one who is the divine life in person.

Death has become for you, pure Virgin, a crossing to an eternal and better life, translating you from one which perishes to one which is truly divine and without change, to gaze in joy upon your Son and Lord.

O you Apostles, assembled here from the ends of the earth, bury my body in Gethsemane; and You, my Son, receive my spirit.
(Exaposteilarion of the feast)

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Re: Was Mary resurrected?
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2013, 08:59:27 AM »
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Re: Was Mary resurrected?
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2013, 03:48:44 PM »
Since her body was taken into Heaven at the Dormition, was she resurrected like Christ and like all of humanity at the end of the world?

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Re: Was Mary resurrected?
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2013, 05:07:18 PM »
I don't know.
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