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Well, Lent is starting or rather has started. Many people are fasting. Some are giving up this or that. Hopefully Catholics won't be too distracted with the Pope's resignation.  |
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2 Cor. 12:9 And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2013, 01:42:31 AM » |
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I'm going to try to give up smugness...
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2013, 01:45:57 AM » |
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Am I the only one who thinks Byzantine Lent is going to be hard enough without giving up extra things on my own?
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2013, 01:51:25 AM » |
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Am I the only one who thinks Byzantine Lent is going to be hard enough without giving up extra things on my own?
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2 Cor. 12:9 And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2013, 04:17:33 AM » |
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I'm giving up sanity.
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." --Bertrand Russell
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2013, 04:38:31 AM » |
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I'm giving up sanity.
That's an easy one, pick something harder. |
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2013, 08:35:52 AM » |
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I'm giving up sanity.
I would give it up if I'd still have it. |
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2013, 10:48:17 AM » |
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Meat and cheese.
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It is an education process for me as I learn about the psychology of spiritual apostasy. And others get the benefit of perhaps hearing righteousness for the first time.
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2013, 11:12:55 AM » |
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It's not a matter of "giving up" something for Lent....it's a matter of changing ourselves for the better. Trying to be the person we ought to be the other days of the year....and hopefully, our seemingly temporary transformation for Lent....will become a good habit and will continue for the rest of our lives.
Therefore, in addition to the dietary restrictions, we try to better ourselves.
We are in our preparatory period before Great Lent....and we are given these weeks in order to prepare for Lent (which prepares us for Pascha). During these weeks we are to do some soul searching....and be honest with ourselves.
We need to find where we are lacking....perhaps we don't show others enough patience, perhaps we are easily offended, perhaps we are lazy, sarcastic, joke and tease others....thinking it's funny, and not caring that we are hurting others....because it's fun for us...and we are all that matters. ...in addition to giving up any addictions - overeating, drinking too much, smoking, gaming, watching TV too much, etc.
In this period of time we realize our own inequities...and then during Great Lent we work on them....trying not to hurt others, to be more helpful, selfless, patient, etc. Once we do this for the 40+ days of Great Lent and Holy Week.....it may very well become a habit, and after Pascha we will simply continue to be a better version of ourselves than we were before Great Lent.
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2013, 11:33:44 AM » |
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I'm trying to read St. Basil's letters and the entire Psalter during Great Lent. I already made a day-to-day reading plan so that at Pascha I'll have read it all. Perhaps if people want to join me in reading we could start a thread and discuss what we've read.
I'll also try reduce my meat-eating but I don't want to alarm my parents. Perhaps marmalade on my sandwich but just eat what they give me for dinner.
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2013, 11:47:10 AM » |
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In common with others I learnt that embracing Great Lent was like sitting on a three legged stool, the legs being being worship and prayer, fasting and alms giving. Sitting on a stool with only one or two legs is problematic, but again priests taught that if you cannot fast, pray and give alms, and you cannot pray or fast then give alms.
Quite what success there will be with any or all of this only time will reveal. As to 'giving something up', that will have to be a struggle on the lines so well set out by LizaSymonenko.
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2013, 11:48:48 AM » |
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Communion with the Pope of Rome.
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2013, 11:50:32 AM » |
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Discussing my Lenten praxis with others  . |
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2013, 12:08:55 PM » |
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I like LizaSymonenko's reply.
Am I the only one who thinks that this question raises a bit of pride?
We already know what we are supposed to abstain from for lent (meat, dairy, alcohol, sex, etc...).
Its more than just about what we're giving up.
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Most Holy Theotokos, Save Us!
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Have Mercy Upon Me a Sinner!
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2013, 12:45:14 PM » |
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I like LizaSymonenko's reply.
Am I the only one who thinks that this question raises a bit of pride?
We already know what we are supposed to abstain from for lent (meat, dairy, alcohol, sex, etc...).
Its more than just about what we're giving up.
Maybe rather something alien to Orthodoxy, and more often heard among some Western confessions. But I understand your reaction. |
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2013, 12:47:42 PM » |
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I like LizaSymonenko's reply.
Am I the only one who thinks that this question raises a bit of pride?
We already know what we are supposed to abstain from for lent (meat, dairy, alcohol, sex, etc...).
Its more than just about what we're giving up.
Only if you take everything at face value. Like Anastasia already said, this was basically a thinly veiled excuse to post a funny picture. |
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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2013, 02:12:13 PM » |
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I may give up Church for Lent.
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2013, 02:25:28 PM » |
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I may give up Church for Lent.
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"Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it."
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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2013, 03:10:39 PM » |
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I may give up Church for Lent.
There are times where I think we would be great friends in real life. |
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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2013, 03:13:25 PM » |
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I may give up Church for Lent.
There are times where I think we would be great friends in real life. Thank you. I have often thought the same. |
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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2013, 05:13:11 PM » |
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I like LizaSymonenko's reply.
Am I the only one who thinks that this question raises a bit of pride?
We already know what we are supposed to abstain from for lent (meat, dairy, alcohol, sex, etc...).
Its more than just about what we're giving up.
Only if you take everything at face value. Like Anastasia already said, this was basically a thinly veiled excuse to post a funny picture. |
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2 Cor. 12:9 And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2013, 05:37:09 PM » |
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I may give up Church for Lent.
Give up Christ, the Body of Christ? |
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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2013, 05:38:46 PM » |
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Giving up for Great Lent? ... Internet forums or sinning, maybe both at the same time.
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"Religion is a neurobiological illness and Orthodoxy is its cure." - Fr. John S. Romanides
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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2013, 05:44:42 PM » |
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Meat and cheese.
Someone once asked me if whale was meat. My response was, "isn't that illegal?" It reminds me of that Matthew Broderick film and "your komodo dragon." |
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« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2013, 05:46:45 PM » |
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Meat and cheese.
Someone once asked me if whale was meat. My response was, "isn't that illegal?" Not if you are an Inuit in Canada. |
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« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2013, 05:47:18 PM » |
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Giving up for Great Lent? ... Internet forums or sinning, maybe both at the same time.
Not being on the internet halves my sinning instantly  |
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« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2013, 05:47:42 PM » |
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Giving up for Great Lent? ... Internet forums or sinning, maybe both at the same time.
Right. What a great thing it would be if we all give up 2 hours of internet forums per day and go visit lonely widows at the nursing home. We might actually squeak into the Kingdom of Heaven (and that, barely). |
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« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2013, 05:50:25 PM » |
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Giving up for Great Lent? ... Internet forums or sinning, maybe both at the same time.
Right. What a great thing it would be if we all give up 2 hours of internet forums per day and go visit lonely widows at the nursing home. We might actually squeak into the Kingdom of Heaven (and that, barely). Or we can just give the lonely widows an iPad so that we can talk to them on the internet forums. SEE! I just sinned right there. I really need to give this up. |
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« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2013, 05:50:52 PM » |
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Meat and cheese.
Someone once asked me if whale was meat. My response was, "isn't that illegal?" Not if you are an Inuit in Canada. Well thanks for that. Now half of my parishioners will try to say that they had a great great great Inuit grandmother and go slaying whales. Thanks a lot.   |
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They won't be your parishioners then, Father. Because they have to move to Nunavut to avail of that exemption. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/story/2011/08/17/north-bowhead-whale423.htmlBesides Iqaluit, two other Nunavut communities — Kugaaruk and Coral Harbour — have been granted licenses to hunt bowheads this year. This was 2011, the licenses are year-to-year. |
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Giving up for Great Lent? ... Internet forums or sinning, maybe both at the same time.
Right. What a great thing it would be if we all give up 2 hours of internet forums per day and go visit lonely widows at the nursing home. We might actually squeak into the Kingdom of Heaven (and that, barely). Thank you Father. Finally someone who "gets it". |
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I may give up Church for Lent.
Give up Christ, the Body of Christ? What makes you think that I would give up Christ? Sitting in a Church does not make a Christian any more than sitting in a hangar makes you an airplane. |
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« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2013, 08:10:40 PM » |
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I may give up Church for Lent.
Give up Christ, the Body of Christ? What makes you think that I would give up Christ? Sitting in a Church does not make a Christian any more than sitting in a hangar makes you an airplane. Sitting in church? ANATHEMA! |
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Sitting in church? ANATHEMA!
Yes, in our rush to outdo the Pharisees in our works, we have forgotten words like Kathisma. |
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« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2013, 08:37:11 PM » |
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I'm just giving up for Lent.
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Can I give up Lent for Lent?
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I'm going to try to give up sin.... For lent.... And for good.  Oops. |
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« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2013, 09:05:01 PM » |
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I'm just giving up for Lent.
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Can I give up Lent for Lent?
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Sitting in church? ANATHEMA!
Yes, in our rush to outdo the Pharisees in our works, we have forgotten words like Kathisma. Sad, isn't it. Choy was only kidding, but we have lots of seat-haters around here. |
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Sitting in church? ANATHEMA!
Yes, in our rush to outdo the Pharisees in our works, we have forgotten words like Kathisma. Sad, isn't it. Choy was only kidding, but we have lots of seat-haters around here. I was?  Seriously though, I came from an Eastern Catholic parish, I don't mind seats. Although they do get in the way of prostrations and also because of Latinizations we sit at the most inappropriate times (like the Litany after the Anaphora. Even RCs do not sit after the Consecration.) |
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Sitting in church? ANATHEMA!
Yes, in our rush to outdo the Pharisees in our works, we have forgotten words like Kathisma. Sad, isn't it. Choy was only kidding, but we have lots of seat-haters around here. I was? Seriously though, I came from an Eastern Catholic parish, I don't mind seats. Although they do get in the way of prostrations and also because of Latinizations we sit at the most inappropriate times (like the Litany after the Anaphora. Even RCs do not sit after the Consecration.) Sorry to hear that. BTW, I have a serious question slightly off-topic, but did you encounter EC parishes where they crossed themselves "the Latin way" L to R? |
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