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I always enjoy watching the old films on television which re-tell stories from the Bible--like The Ten Commandments especially. However, I do not see very many which take place after the book of Acts. Such as films which would re-tell stories about certain inspirational Saints or events in the history of the Church. And among the very few that I have seen, they are usually told from a Roman Catholic perspective--and I find myself pointing out flaws in them the entire time. Are there are any films like this told from an Orthodox perspective? Preferably with English subtitles, since I'm assuming they would be in some Eastern European language.
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Do you want dramatic re-tellings only, or biography/documentary style ones as well?
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You mean you guys don't have 500,000 movies on the lives of the saints? Cos the Copts sure do. The Coptic saint film industry page (some subtitled, some not; some pre-Chalcedon, some not) dzheremi hehehe, so true, now you have got to give me a list of favorites because I have seen very few of them. some are considerably well done while others well they are the sunday school drama club variety with lofty hagiographical language that is okay in writting but very weired when spoken.. u know  |
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Yes, I definitely know what you mean, Hiwot. I have only seen a few myself, and I only own St. Bishoy's (because it was a gift; one of the discs is defective, so I haven't even seen the whole thing). I liked the one of Abouna Abdelmasih el-Habashi (not the same as the one listed as "Abd El Masseh" on that website), but I didn't like St. George or St. Moses the Ethiopian's. So it's definitely hit-or-miss. Coptic Hollywood (Shoubrawood?) is not rich enough to be consistent, it seems. If I remember correctly, I saw St. George's movie on YT with Ethiopian narration over what appears to be a Coptic movie (either that or Habesha actors are all very light-skinned  ). Are there Ethiopian-made movies for Ethiopian saints? I'd like to see those, if they exist. |
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As far as dramatic performance Orthodox movies, there's Ostrov, as well as several other Russian movies of note such as "Repentance" and "Ne Goryuy (Don't Grieve)"
The Greek Archdiocese of America has several movies on select saints. Light and Life used to have a movie/video section back when people still had VHS.
A movie or miniseries on the life of St. Paul would be great. David Suchet (Poirot) did a two-part special as a documentary on St. Paul and hinted at his desire to play St. Paul. Not Orthodox, but may still be good.
Other movies of Christian theme and good cinematography are Ben-Hur, King of Kings, The Robe, Quo Vadis, Demetrius and the Gladiators, The Silver Chalice--all from the era when Hollywood did Jesus/Early Christian epics.
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Yes, I definitely know what you mean, Hiwot. I have only seen a few myself, and I only own St. Bishoy's (because it was a gift; one of the discs is defective, so I haven't even seen the whole thing). I liked the one of Abouna Abdelmasih el-Habashi (not the same as the one listed as "Abd El Masseh" on that website), but I didn't like St. George or St. Moses the Ethiopian's. So it's definitely hit-or-miss. Coptic Hollywood (Shoubrawood?) is not rich enough to be consistent, it seems. If I remember correctly, I saw St. George's movie on YT with Ethiopian narration over what appears to be a Coptic movie (either that or Habesha actors are all very light-skinned ). Are there Ethiopian-made movies for Ethiopian saints? I'd like to see those, if they exist. LOL@ Shoubrawood!! I liked Abouna abdelmasih el habashi's as well. but my favorite is about Abouna Anderawes el samuel, it is called Visitor from heaven. Ethiopians love coptic movies, they have dozens of coptic movies with amharic narration. so far they have not made any ethiopian movies about the saints. just stage dramas. |
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Here's a film based on the life of St. Mary of Egypt. Its in Arabic but has English subtitles. Its my favorite Orthodox film so far! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaWwn9mDAvY&list=PL2EA5D4073F66A9D4&index=1 |
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Oh yeah! St. Mary of Egypt has a good one, too! Hiwot: That's too bad. I think it would be good to have Ethiopian saints' movies to increase the knowledge of them among Ethiopians and non-Ethiopians alike. Pretty much the only saint from Ethiopia that anyone at my church knows is St. Tekla Haymanot, and I think that's mostly because there's a famous church named after the saint in Alexandria. One time I mentioned St. Yared to a friend from church and he had no idea who I was talking about.  |
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Cantor, dzheremi, yeah it would be great if they could, but I guess baby steps for now. a lot of work remains to familiarise the laity at least the prominent saints in each jurisdiction in our church. movies would be very effective for that purpose. a hymn for Abona andrawes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMlOpg4GwIY the movie in arabic, this one does not have subtitles, sorry. the one I saw had, but I could not find it now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlt3pnI189c |
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You mean you guys don't have 500,000 movies on the lives of the saints? Cos the Copts sure do. The Coptic saint film industry page (some subtitled, some not; some pre-Chalcedon, some not) dzheremi hehehe, so true, now you have got to give me a list of favorites because I have seen very few of them. some are considerably well done while others well they are the sunday school drama club variety with lofty hagiographical language that is okay in writting but very weired when spoken.. u know Most of them are pure schlock, but you gotta start somewhere. In time, I'm sure they'll get better. But all things considered, the one for St. Anba Abraam is quite good. It's a movie I think most anyone could enjoy. |
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2013, 10:45:48 AM » |
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You mean you guys don't have 500,000 movies on the lives of the saints? Cos the Copts sure do. The Coptic saint film industry page (some subtitled, some not; some pre-Chalcedon, some not) dzheremi hehehe, so true, now you have got to give me a list of favorites because I have seen very few of them. some are considerably well done while others well they are the sunday school drama club variety with lofty hagiographical language that is okay in writting but very weired when spoken.. u know Most of them are pure schlock, but you gotta start somewhere. In time, I'm sure they'll get better. But all things considered, the one for St. Anba Abraam is quite good. It's a movie I think most anyone could enjoy. The one about Fr. Yostos, the silent monk, was good too. |
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Hey check it out, the animated film Prince Vladimir is now on Youtube with English subtitles Russian animation isn't what it used to be back in the Soviet days: Hedgehog in the fogNina Shorina made interesting animation using texts from the great Russian novelists - I liked this one best, but they've taken the subtitled version off Youtube, unfortunately. |
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I'd love to see a movie about St. Anthony the Great once.
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Here are some documentaries that might interest you: http://www.stnectariospress.com/catalog/multi-media.htmThe Creed DVD by father Panteleimon - 15.00 On the Divinity of Christ by father Panteleimon - 15.00 The Marriage Service as a part of Eucharist - 15.00 We Believe in One God by father Haralambos - 15.00 The Mother of God by father Panteleimon - 15.00 Why should we live a virtuous life by Metropolitan Ephraim - 15.00 The way of the cross: the path to santification by Bishop Demetrios - 15.00 An evening with Metropolitan Ephraim - 15.00 Enter in: Exploring the feasts of the Church by the Greek Archiodese of North America (4DVDS) - 35.00 Life of St. John Maximovitch - 20.00 http://www.newgracanica.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10&products_id=20His Holiness Patriarch Pavle DVD - 15 Ikona - The Icon DVD - 18 Susret pod Ostrogom -The Ostrog Encounter - 12 Sveti Nikolaj Srpski - 12 A Pilgrim's Way - 16 Has anyone seen any of this dvds? I have seen one about St. (Sveti) Nikolaj Velimirovic - it's amazing and is available in various language |
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Boring and amateur. One of 3 movies I've fallen asleep in the cinema. I watched it like ten years ago, when I actually wasn't in orthodox church yet, so maybe it produced a wrong impression on me then. But as far as I remember I quite liked the movie. I watched it 10 years ago or something like that. I remember only styrofoam columns burning. Book is better a bit but still more fiction, like historical one. As all Sienkiewicz' books. |
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As far as dramatic performance Orthodox movies, there's Ostrov, as well as several other Russian movies of note such as "Repentance" and "Ne Goryuy (Don't Grieve)"
The Greek Archdiocese of America has several movies on select saints. Light and Life used to have a movie/video section back when people still had VHS.
A movie or miniseries on the life of St. Paul would be great. David Suchet (Poirot) did a two-part special as a documentary on St. Paul and hinted at his desire to play St. Paul. Not Orthodox, but may still be good.
Other movies of Christian theme and good cinematography are Ben-Hur, King of Kings, The Robe, Quo Vadis, Demetrius and the Gladiators, The Silver Chalice--all from the era when Hollywood did Jesus/Early Christian epics.
I just watched Ostrov over the weekend - REALLY liked it. Will have to check out Repentance and Don't Grieve. |
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Ansgar
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« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2013, 12:53:49 PM » |
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I found this film about St. Mary of Egypt on a greek orthodox channel, but I can't tell if it was made by eastern or oriental orthodox. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aEJQCAl-z0Oh wait, watched some more. Definately oriental. |
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Do not be cast down over the struggle - the Lord loves a brave warrior. The Lord loves the soul that is valiant.
-St Silouan the athonite
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« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2013, 04:45:03 PM » |
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it's an egyptian dialect, so it will be coptic. will go and watch more when i have time! |
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