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Have Greeks become Godless?
« on: February 18, 2013, 02:44:34 AM »
It's was said in another thread that Greeks were Godless because their women didn't wear headcoverings and everyone else became feminists.  Naturally, I don't believe that Greeks are Godless and that the Greek Orthodox jurisdictions (both New and Old Calendar) hold true to their Orthodoxy.  So, if anyone else has seen evidence that Greeks are becoming Godless, that would be an interesting point to discuss.   :)
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Re: Have Greeks become Godless?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2013, 02:46:25 AM »
Has God become Greekless?
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Re: Have Greeks become Godless?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2013, 02:48:44 AM »
What if God was one of us? Just a Jew Greek like one of us?

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Re: Have Greeks become Godless?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2013, 02:52:00 AM »
Has God become Greekless?

No although I like your use of corollary.   :)

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Re: Have Greeks become Godless?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2013, 03:00:36 AM »
Some Greeks are god-ful!

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Re: Have Greeks become Godless?
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2013, 06:09:02 AM »
Some Greeks are god-ful!

Ay-yup. If we can't get along with one, we go for many! :D
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Re: Have Greeks become Godless?
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2013, 06:12:43 AM »
Some Greeks are god-ful!

They've sacrificed too much to Dionysus, I think.
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Re: Have Greeks become Godless?
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2013, 06:18:34 AM »
Some Greeks are god-ful!

They've sacrificed too much to Dionysus, I think.

.... that's why they're full.   :laugh:
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Re: Have Greeks become Godless?
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2013, 06:44:50 AM »
Some Greeks are god-ful!

They've sacrificed too much to Dionysus, I think.

.... that's why they're full.   :laugh:

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Re: Have Greeks become Godless?
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2013, 08:10:24 AM »
I don't know if the Greeks have become "godless" but if things don't change over there soon they certainly won't be "Allah-less".

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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2013, 08:22:01 AM »
I don't know if the Greeks have become "godless" but if things don't change over there soon they certainly won't be "Allah-less".



Greece has very few muslims.
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2013, 08:23:05 AM »
I don't know if the Greeks have become "godless" but if things don't change over there soon they certainly won't be "Allah-less".



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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2013, 08:33:44 AM »
I don't know if the Greeks have become "godless" but if things don't change over there soon they certainly won't be "Allah-less".



Greece has very few muslims.
One is too many.

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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2013, 08:42:21 AM »
I don't know if the Greeks have become "godless" but if things don't change over there soon they certainly won't be "Allah-less".



Greece has very few muslims.
One is too many.


Do you say that because Islam is false and the muslims are deluded or because you don't like muslims?
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Re: Have Greeks become Godless?
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2013, 08:42:39 AM »
I don't know if the Greeks have become "godless" but if things don't change over there soon they certainly won't be "Allah-less".



Greece has very few muslims.
Maybe officially, but how many illegally and more coming in everyday.


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Once known for its large-scale emigration, Greece transitioned to a country of destination for Central and Eastern European immigrants after the fall of the Soviet Union and other communist regimes in the region. More recently, the country has become one of entry and transit for hundreds of thousands of unauthorized immigrants from Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. As a result, Greece is now grappling with issues related to its highly porous borders, mounting asylum applications, faltering immigrant detention system, allegations of human-rights violations, and the effective integration of the country's many foreign-born permanent residents.
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Re: Have Greeks become Godless?
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2013, 08:48:06 AM »
I don't know if the Greeks have become "godless" but if things don't change over there soon they certainly won't be "Allah-less".



Greece has very few muslims.
One is too many.


Do you say that because Islam is false and the muslims are deluded or because you don't like muslims?
Islam has been a cancer to every European nation dumb enough to open it's borders to them.

Now countries like France, Britain and Holland have serious issues with their burdgeoning Muslim populations that are looking to change the complexion of those former quasi-Christian nations and distinctly European ethnic makeup.

Islam, by defintion, is a state-building religion, don't ever forget it.

So yes, one Muslim in your nation  is too many.
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2013, 08:51:13 AM »
I don't know if the Greeks have become "godless" but if things don't change over there soon they certainly won't be "Allah-less".



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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2013, 08:53:18 AM »
I don't know if the Greeks have become "godless" but if things don't change over there soon they certainly won't be "Allah-less".

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Islam has been a cancer to every European nation dumb enough to open it's borders to them.

Now countries like France, Britain and Holland have serious issues with their burdgeoning Muslim populations that are looking to change the complexion of those former quasi-Christian nations and distinctly European ethnic makeup.

Islam, by defintion, is a state-building religion, don't ever forget it.

So yes, one Muslim in your nation  is too many.

Islam is more a mundane ideology than a faith system. Europe has democracy and respect for human rights, which helps Islam destroy democracy and basic human rights. 
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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2013, 08:55:34 AM »
It's was said in another thread that Greeks were Godless because their women didn't wear headcoverings and everyone else became feminists.  Naturally, I don't believe that Greeks are Godless and that the Greek Orthodox jurisdictions (both New and Old Calendar) hold true to their Orthodoxy.  So, if anyone else has seen evidence that Greeks are becoming Godless, that would be an interesting point to discuss.   :)
The only way the Greeks become "godless" is if and when the Socialists and globalists have their way with her.

It's the anarchists,communists and outside agitators that hate religion, not the Greek people.

The Greeks have a long, proud and glorious history with Christianity, they were and I believe still are, one of the strongest stalwarts and defenders of the Church. We need to support then now more than ever from the Islamic hordes invading from the East and the usurpers from within that hate God, the Church and most of all, Greeks.
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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2013, 08:57:05 AM »
I don't know if the Greeks have become "godless" but if things don't change over there soon they certainly won't be "Allah-less".



Greece has very few muslims.
One is too many.


Do you say that because Islam is false and the muslims are deluded or because you don't like muslims?
Islam has been a cancer to every European nation dumb enough to open it's borders to them.

Now countries like France, Britain and Holland have serious issues with their burdgeoning Muslim populations that are looking to change the complexion of those former quasi-Christian nations and distinctly European ethnic makeup.

Islam, by defintion, is a state-building religion, don't ever forget it.

So yes, one Muslim in your nation  is too many.
It is true that we have a lot of problems with people who are muslims. It is also true that we have a lot of problems with people who are orthodox and catholic.
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2013, 08:58:37 AM »

Islam has been a cancer to every European nation dumb enough to open it's borders to them.

Now countries like France, Britain and Holland have serious issues with their burdgeoning Muslim populations that are looking to change the complexion of those former quasi-Christian nations and distinctly European ethnic makeup.

Islam, by defintion, is a state-building religion, don't ever forget it.

So yes, one Muslim in your nation  is too many.

Islam is more a mundane ideology than a faith system. Europe has democracy and respect for human rights, which helps Islam destroy democracy and basic human rights. 
Amazing isn't it? These are the same principles which they attack and destroy the Church with.

It's the French Revolution all over again.
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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2013, 09:00:33 AM »
It is true that we have a lot of problems with people who are muslims. It is also true that we have a lot of problems with people who are orthodox and catholic.

You have problems with people who are Orthodox and Catholic because they are Orthodox and Catholic? You have problems with people who are Muslims because they are Muslims?  The answers given to these questions will end your confusion.
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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2013, 09:03:17 AM »
It is true that we have a lot of problems with people who are muslims. It is also true that we have a lot of problems with people who are orthodox and catholic.

You have problems with people who are Orthodox and Catholic because they are Orthodox and Catholic? You have problems with people who are Muslims because they are Muslims?  The answers given to these questions will end your confusion.
No to both.
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It is also true that we have a lot of problems with people who are orthodox and catholic.

First off, probably in name only.

But the Orthodox and Catholic are the ones that made Greece what it is today.

Regardless of a few bad apples.

But you don't want the Islamic horde turning your nation upside down.

That's unless, you are either an usurper or really naive and buy into this "multiculturalism" garbage.
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It is also true that we have a lot of problems with people who are orthodox and catholic.

First off, probably in name only.

But the Orthodox and Catholic are the ones that made Greece what it is today.

Regardless of a few bad apples.

But you don't want the Islamic horde turning your nation upside down.

That's unless, you are either an usurper or really naive and buy into this "multiculturalism" garbage.
Quite alot of muslims are also just muslims in name.
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« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2013, 09:07:11 AM »
Why don't you look directly to the East and tell me you don't have any problems with Islam.

Tell me  when you have a country full of Muslim Turks, indigenous Greek Orthodox will have no problems.

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« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2013, 09:07:35 AM »
It is true that we have a lot of problems with people who are muslims. It is also true that we have a lot of problems with people who are orthodox and catholic.

You have problems with people who are Orthodox and Catholic because they are Orthodox and Catholic? You have problems with people who are Muslims because they are Muslims?  The answers given to these questions will end your confusion.
No to both.

Yes to confusion.  ;D
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« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2013, 09:09:06 AM »
It is true that we have a lot of problems with people who are muslims. It is also true that we have a lot of problems with people who are orthodox and catholic.

You have problems with people who are Orthodox and Catholic because they are Orthodox and Catholic? You have problems with people who are Muslims because they are Muslims?  The answers given to these questions will end your confusion.
No to both.

Yes to confusion.  ;D
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« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2013, 09:10:01 AM »

Quite alot of muslims are also just muslims in name.

True, but bad Orthodox and Catholics are so IN SPITE OF the Gospel whereas bad Muslims are so BECAUSE OF the Qur'an.  ;D
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« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2013, 09:10:31 AM »
The Greeks have a long, proud and glorious history with Christianity, they were and I believe still are, one of the strongest stalwarts and defenders of the Church.

Didn't Traditionalist Catholics think the Greeks schismed from the Church in 1054?
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« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2013, 09:12:26 AM »
Why don't you look directly to the East and tell me you don't have any problems with Islam.

Tell me  when you have a country full of Muslim Turks, indigenous Greek Orthodox will have no problems.


I didn't say I didn't have a problem with Islam. I said I didn't have a problem with (most) muslims
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It is also true that we have a lot of problems with people who are orthodox and catholic.

First off, probably in name only.

But the Orthodox and Catholic are the ones that made Greece what it is today.

Regardless of a few bad apples.

But you don't want the Islamic horde turning your nation upside down.

That's unless, you are either an usurper or really naive and buy into this "multiculturalism" garbage.
Quite alot of muslims are also just muslims in name.
While this may or may not be true, you can bet they will consolidate when it comes to issues against the Greeks and the Church on various issues.

Muslims do not make you nation any better , practicing or not.
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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2013, 09:13:46 AM »

Quite alot of muslims are also just muslims in name.

True, but bad Orthodox and Catholics are so IN SPITE OF the Gospel whereas bad Muslims are so BECAUSE OF the Qur'an.  ;D
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The Greeks have a long, proud and glorious history with Christianity, they were and I believe still are, one of the strongest stalwarts and defenders of the Church.

Didn't Traditionalist Catholics think the Greeks schismed from the Church in 1054?
Yes and Moslems destroyed Constantinople in 1453.

your point?
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« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2013, 09:15:53 AM »
Why don't you look directly to the East and tell me you don't have any problems with Islam.

Tell me  when you have a country full of Muslim Turks, indigenous Greek Orthodox will have no problems.


I didn't say I didn't have a problem with Islam. I said I didn't have a problem with (most) muslims
One day you will when (most) of your country is Muslim.

Really not even most.
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« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2013, 09:15:57 AM »
How can schismatics be "one of the strongest stalwarts and defenders of the Church"?
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« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2013, 09:17:29 AM »

Quite alot of muslims are also just muslims in name.

True, but bad Orthodox and Catholics are so IN SPITE OF the Gospel whereas bad Muslims are so BECAUSE OF the Qur'an.  ;D
Then, it's a good thing that most muslims in Denmark don't live according to the quran.
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« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2013, 09:17:38 AM »
And Catholics took revenge from Muslims when they conquered Cordoba and turned the biggest mosque into a Christian cathedral in return for the loss of Agia Sofia.  ;)
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« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2013, 09:17:47 AM »
How can schismatics be "one of the strongest stalwarts and defenders of the Church"?
Are you calling yourself "schismatic"?
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« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2013, 09:18:00 AM »
Why don't you look directly to the East and tell me you don't have any problems with Islam.

We have problems with Roman Catholics too.

Yes and Moslems destroyed Constantinople in 1453.

your point?

Pretty much because you had done the same in 1204. Your point?
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« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2013, 09:19:30 AM »

Then, it's a good thing that most muslims in Denmark don't live according to the quran.

Well, this is their choice then. This does not change the fact that Islam compels its followers to conquer non-Muslim lands and subjugate all non-Muslims living there though.
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Re: Have Greeks become Godless?
« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2013, 09:19:52 AM »
And Catholics took revenge from Muslims when they conquered Cordoba and turned the biggest mosque into a Christian cathedral in return for the loss of Agia Sofia.  ;)
And Spain became a dominant world power while the Muslim cavemen decimated what was left of the Roman Empire.
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Re: Have Greeks become Godless?
« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2013, 09:21:12 AM »
How can schismatics be "one of the strongest stalwarts and defenders of the Church"?
Are you calling yourself "schismatic"?

No. But since I'm neither part of the Roman Catholic or the Eastern Orthodox communion I'm a schismatic from both points of view. But that's not my point. You called the Greeks "one of the strongest stalwarts and defenders of the Church" and yet you think them schismatics.
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Re: Have Greeks become Godless?
« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2013, 09:22:43 AM »

No. But since I'm neither part of the Roman Catholic or the Eastern Orthodox communion I'm a schismatic from both points of view. But that's not my point. You called the Greeks "one of the strongest stalwarts and defenders of the Church" and yet you think them schismatics.

Schismatic does not mean heretical though.  ;D
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