Would you eat mushroom soup if you knew it might have 20 maggots in it?

[Maria]

According to the Rachel Ray Show on Friday, February 15, 2013, Dr. Travis said the FDA allows up to 20 maggots in processed mushroom soup.

http://www.rachaelrayshow.com/videos/view/43/5892/

Of course, Rachel Ray gagged and shook her head at the thought.

What other crawling creepers are allowed in processed foods in U.S. grocery stores by the FDA?

[PeterTheAleut]

So you think eating a few maggots with your soup is going to kill you, Maria? Sounds like a good source of protein to me.

[Maria]

So you think eating a few maggots with your soup is going to kill you, Maria? Sounds like a good source of protein to me.

That is exactly what Dr. Travis said, PeterTheAleut.

In Egypt and in the Middle East, humans enjoy a delicacy consisting of chocolate-covered swollen ant abdomens filled with honey. These ants are called repletes, and are living storehouses of nutrients for other ants.

My dad purchased these and another delicacy, chocolate-covered grubs similar to June Beetle grubs.

They were delicious. Yes, I ate several.

[Asteriktos]

I'd rather have maggots in my soup than spider legs in my chocolate...   er... no, nevermind, I am avoiding all food from now on 

[PeterTheAleut]

Anyone for some Kentucky Fried Cockroach?

[Romaios]

Anyone for some Kentucky Fried Cockroach?

Kentucky schreit ****!  

Obscenity in above TV show name masked completely... An obscenity is an obscenity even if it's masked partially and/or in a foreign language.  -PtA

(This was the name of a popular comedy show on German tv about a decade ago.)

[Maria]

Anyone for some Kentucky Fried Cockroach?

Ah, that reminds me.

I went to a Family Life Conference many years ago, and sitting across me at brunch was a priest. I was talking to my husband, was ravenously hungry, and did not look at the food as I shoveled it into my mouth. Big mistake. As I bit into some stirred fried veggies, my tongue detected something long, skinny and sharp, and I quickly determined that it was cockroach. Putting my napkin over my face so as not to disturb the other guests, I quickly pulled it out of my mouth, which was no easy task as it was two inches long, and then I quickly went over to the banquet buffet, noticed some more cooked cockroaches (one to two inches long), and pointed them out to the waiter. The priest was impressed at my calmness, as he saw me put the beastie into my mouth, and wondered how I would handle it. He could not say anything to warn me because his mouth was full at that time. Father said that had another parishioner bitten into that cockroach, they would most likely have screamed. However, I did receive an A in entomology in college.

The restaurant offered me a free breakfast, but I declined. I lost my appetite for two weeks, but also lost 12 stubborn pounds.

[Michał Kalina]

I've eaten 10 grasshoppers for a bet, locust in honey one relative brought from a trip to Middle East, several flies by accident.

[JamesR]

Eh, not really. People eat nasty things like that all over the world and they are just fine. I think it is more of a psychological issue than anything else; the thought of eating insects or maggots/larvae is scary to us. But I bet that if we gave it a chance and did not know what we were eating, many of us would actually think it tasted pretty good. I'd rather just not know what I am eating, to avoid this awkwardness.

[PeterTheAleut]

For some reason, the image of Chevy Chase eating "lamb fries" (i.e., fried ram testicles) comes to mind.

[JamesR]

If some people can do this, then I think that we could eat some maggots.

[JamesR]

...eating "lamb fries" (i.e., fried ram testicles)

Hmm....that would probably kill my carnal passions for months...

[Maria]

If some people can do this, then I think that we could eat some maggots.

James, you remind me of my younger brother!
He was always seeing if he could make me nauseated so that he could get an extra piece of pie ... mine.

Anyway, that was a horrible video.

And yes, the FDA does allow 20 maggots per can of mushroom soup.
I am certainly not going to buy canned mushroom soup anytime soon.
Homemade soup is much better by far!

[Michał Kalina]

Homemade soup is much better by far!

I'm positive you will have more than 20 in a homemade one. Enjoy!

[Achronos]

Well it's best to remain ignorant.

And I never eat mushroom soup.

Wonder what the "chicken" is in Campbell's Chicken Noodle Soup.

[JamesR]

Homemade soup is much better by far!

mmhm, menudo



This homemade pot of gold is a delicacy for us Mexican-Americans

[Maria]

Homemade soup is much better by far!

I'm positive you will have more than 20 in a homemade one. Enjoy!

Especially if it is a "homemade" soup made by that restaurant where I was served fried cockroaches.

[Tallitot]

Homemade soup is much better by far!

mmhm, menudo



This homemade pot of gold is a delicacy for us Mexican-Americans

a great hangover cure!

[Michał Kalina]

Homemade soup is much better by far!

I'm positive you will have more than 20 in a homemade one. Enjoy!

Especially if it is a "homemade" soup made by that restaurant where I was served fried cockroaches.

I remember only my own homemade soups with some bugs floating.

[Michał Kalina]

Homemade soup is much better by far!

I'm positive you will have more than 20 in a homemade one. Enjoy!

Especially if it is a "homemade" soup made by that restaurant where I was served fried cockroaches.

I remember only my own homemade soups with some bugs floating.

a great hangover cure!

Tripe soup works for me best.

[Maria]

Homemade soup is much better by far!

I'm positive you will have more than 20 in a homemade one. Enjoy!

Especially if it is a "homemade" soup made by that restaurant where I was served fried cockroaches.

I remember only my own homemade soups with some bugs floating.

I use a special vegetable wash to wash all critters from my veggies. It seems to work fine. In the rinse water, I may see some critters, which are dumped outside, but I have never seen insects floating in my soup.

On the other hand, brussel sprouts are known for harboring aphids, which burrow into the center. Washing the brussel sprouts does not dislodge them. Thus, I usually cut those veggies in half to check for aphids. Once I found at least four to five aphids per head or more, so I returned them to the store. The aphids had eaten most of the insides and left a mess of fecal matter. It was disgusting.

[biro]

You are disgusting. (This whole thread. I just had to throw out my dinner now. Thanks, jerks.)

[Asteriktos]

You are disgusting. (This whole thread. I just had to throw out my dinner now. Thanks, jerks.)

So I take it you don't like chocolate-covered grasshoppers?

[biro]

You are disgusting. (This whole thread. I just had to throw out my dinner now. Thanks, jerks.)

So I take it you don't like chocolate-covered grasshoppers?

I don't like this board.

[Asteriktos]

[ialmisry]

I wouldn't eat mushroom soup if I knew there were mushrooms in it.

[ialmisry]

So you think eating a few maggots with your soup is going to kill you, Maria? Sounds like a good source of protein to me.

That is exactly what Dr. Travis said, PeterTheAleut.

In Egypt and in the Middle East, humans enjoy a delicacy consisting of chocolate-covered swollen ant abdomens filled with honey.

News to me.  Repletes is definitely not an Arabic word.

[Michał Kalina]

I wouldn't eat mushroom soup if I knew there were mushrooms in it.

Heretic! There is no better soup than chanterelle one.

[Maria]

So you think eating a few maggots with your soup is going to kill you, Maria? Sounds like a good source of protein to me.

That is exactly what Dr. Travis said, PeterTheAleut.

In Egypt and in the Middle East, humans enjoy a delicacy consisting of chocolate-covered swollen ant abdomens filled with honey.

News to me.  Repletes is definitely not an Arabic word.

A replete is a word used in entomology to describe the worker ant that stores honey in its abdomen for the hive to use. People harvest these repletes by detaching the abdomen from the ant, and then dipping it into chocolate. It tastes much like a honey filled rice crispy. They are delicious and sweet.

Funny, the former king of Saudi Arabic gifted these delicacies to my dad when he visited that country as part of a scientific delegation from the USA. The boxes of chocolate were inscribed in Arabic.

[LBK]

You are disgusting. (This whole thread. I just had to throw out my dinner now. Thanks, jerks.)

Are you surprised? Most here are young 'uns, and male, still preoccupied with revolting things and bodily functions. 

[PeterTheAleut]

You are disgusting. (This whole thread. I just had to throw out my dinner now. Thanks, jerks.)

Are you surprised? Most here are young 'uns, and male, still preoccupied with revolting things and bodily functions. 

You do recognize that the person who started this thread and has been one of its most active contributors is a female?

[Maria]

Homemade soup is much better by far!

mmhm, menudo



This homemade pot of gold is a delicacy for us Mexican-Americans

What are the ingredients in this "homemade pot of gold"?

I have had to refuse it since I am allergic to corn, but maybe I could make it sans corn.

[Alpo]

I love this thread! So much ideas how to enrich your lenten menu with proteins.

[Maria]

I love this thread! So much ideas how to enrich your lenten menu with proteins.

Is this satire?

Did you just change your avatar to suit that response?

I am talking about the guy making a face palm.

[Maria]

Regarding grasshoppers and locusts:

A metabolic change occurs when conditions are ripe which triggers simple grasshoppers to change into large locusts which can form into huge clouds and migrate causing much damage to agricultural crops.

It is said that St. John the Forerunner fasted on honey and locusts.
However, some guy here on OC.net said that it was not really locusts but the locust tree fruit.

What do the Church Fathers have to say?

Did St. John eat the grasshoppers known as locusts?

[LBK]

You are disgusting. (This whole thread. I just had to throw out my dinner now. Thanks, jerks.)

Are you surprised? Most here are young 'uns, and male, still preoccupied with revolting things and bodily functions. 

You do recognize that the person who started this thread and has been one of its most active contributors is a female?

1. I said most, not all.

2. Said female isn't exactly enjoying or reveling in the statistic she has provided in the OP.

If you're going to be cute, at least do it properly. 

[LBK]

Did you just change your avatar to suit that response?

I am talking about the guy making a face palm.

No, he's had that avatar for a few weeks now.

[JamesR]

Homemade soup is much better by far!

mmhm, menudo



This homemade pot of gold is a delicacy for us Mexican-Americans

What are the ingredients in this "homemade pot of gold"?

I have had to refuse it since I am allergic to corn, but maybe I could make it sans corn.

Pigs' feet
Corn
Garlic
Beef Tripe
Various chili powders

Usually these fundamental elements, with its own unique ingredients and elements depending on the household that makes it. It varies from person to person--but these are the fundamentals.

[Michał Kalina]

Regarding grasshoppers and locusts:

A metabolic change occurs when conditions are ripe which triggers simple grasshoppers to change into large locusts which can form into huge clouds and migrate causing much damage to agricultural crops.

It is said that St. John the Forerunner fasted on honey and locusts.
However, some guy here on OC.net said that it was not really locusts but the locust tree fruit.

What do the Church Fathers have to say?

Did St. John eat the grasshoppers known as locusts?

The locust in mead I've eaten were sold as exactly the ones St. John used to eat.

[Alpo]

Did you just change your avatar to suit that response?

I am talking about the guy making a face palm.

No, he's had that avatar for a few weeks now.

Grown-ups, always spoiling all the fun. This is not fair!

[Irish Melkite]

This article will tell you all you want to know on the subject - maybe more.

And for those who want to have a ready reference at hand, as they eat, as to just what the maximum amount of detritus might be that they are consuming, the FDA booklet can be had for free by writing to:

Industry Activities Staff (HFS-565)
Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition
FDA
5100 Paint Branch Parkway
College Park, MD 20740-3835

and asking for a copy of "The Food Defect Action Levels: Levels of Natural or Unavoidable Defects in Foods That Present No Health Hazards for Humans". It is requested that one include a self-addressed mailing label with the request.

You can also print it from here

Many years,

Neil

[choy]

People are missing the obvious issue here.

Does this break the Lenten fast?

 

[Maria]

People are missing the obvious issue here.

Does this break the Lenten fast?

 

Of course not, insects are invertebrates, and thus very edible items for Great Lent.

Snails are also invertebrates as are shrimp (insects of the sea).

[choy]

People are missing the obvious issue here.

Does this break the Lenten fast?

 

Of course not, insects are invertebrates, and thus very edible items for Great Lent.

Snails are also invertebrates as are shrimp (insects of the sea).

So is lobster and crab

[Maria]

People are missing the obvious issue here.

Does this break the Lenten fast?

 

Of course not, insects are invertebrates, and thus very edible items for Great Lent.

Snails are also invertebrates as are shrimp (insects of the sea).

So is lobster and crab

Crabs are like giant spiders of the sea.

[choy]

Crabs are like giant spiders of the sea.

Now you ruined it for me

[vamrat]

I love this thread!  Every time I look at it it inspires me to not eat and thus lose weight!

[Irish Melkite]

You are disgusting. (This whole thread. I just had to throw out my dinner now. Thanks, jerks.)

Are you surprised? Most here are young 'uns, and male, still preoccupied with revolting things and bodily functions. 

LOL, I read this at least three times before I realized that LBK hadn't said they were "still preoccupied with revolting thOngs and bolidy functions" - kept trying to remember the last time thongs were raised  here by those dastardly male young 'uns..

Many years,

Neil

[Irish Melkite]

Crabs are like giant spiders of the sea.

Now you ruined it for me

Then there are crayfish - the cockroaches of the sea.

Many years,

Neil

[Asteriktos]

I, for one, would be delighted if mid-30s is still considered young 

[choy]

I, for one, would be delighted if mid-30s is still considered young 

We are young!

When I was 15 I'd thought 30 years old means really old.  I don't feel that way now.  Except for the part that I really need to exercise more so I can do more things.

[rakovsky]

Anyone for some Kentucky Fried Cockroach?

Ah, that reminds me.

I went to a Family Life Conference many years ago, and sitting across me at brunch was a priest. I was talking to my husband, was ravenously hungry, and did not look at the food as I shoveled it into my mouth. Big mistake. As I bit into some stirred fried veggies, my tongue detected something long, skinny and sharp, and I quickly determined that it was cockroach. Putting my napkin over my face so as not to disturb the other guests, I quickly pulled it out of my mouth, which was no easy task as it was two inches long, and then I quickly went over to the banquet buffet, noticed some more cooked cockroaches (one to two inches long), and pointed them out to the waiter. The priest was impressed at my calmness, as he saw me put the beastie into my mouth, and wondered how I would handle it. He could not say anything to warn me because his mouth was full at that time. Father said that had another parishioner bitten into that cockroach, they would most likely have screamed. However, I did receive an A in entomology in college.

The restaurant offered me a free breakfast, but I declined. I lost my appetite for two weeks, but also lost 12 stubborn pounds.

What the heck? So K.F.Cockroaches is for real at KFC's? The restaurant put fried cockroaches in its buffet unkowingly?!!!

[rakovsky]

Crabs are like giant spiders of the sea.

No, apparently crabs and spiders are quite distinct anthropods.
However, horsecrabs really are significantly related to spiders!!!

[Shanghaiski]

You are disgusting. (This whole thread. I just had to throw out my dinner now. Thanks, jerks.)

Are you surprised? Most here are young 'uns, and male, still preoccupied with revolting things and bodily functions. 

Ageism and sexism all in one.

But really, this thread shows what low standards the FDA (and just about everyone else, for that matter) has when it comes to what they eat. It's sad.

"Shanghaiski, your Velveeta and rotel tomato dip is ready to eat."
"Oh, thank you!"

[Shanghaiski]

I love this thread! So much ideas how to enrich your lenten menu with proteins.

Surely there must be a Finnish equivalent to hakarl and lutefisk you could post about?

[Shanghaiski]

Regarding grasshoppers and locusts:

A metabolic change occurs when conditions are ripe which triggers simple grasshoppers to change into large locusts which can form into huge clouds and migrate causing much damage to agricultural crops.

It is said that St. John the Forerunner fasted on honey and locusts.
However, some guy here on OC.net said that it was not really locusts but the locust tree fruit.

What do the Church Fathers have to say?

Did St. John eat the grasshoppers known as locusts?

I think I was that guy. When I visited the Holy Land, that's what we were told. Locust or carob pods are ubiquitous, indigenous, and available annually. Insect locusts are only around every few years, IIRC. Are they even kosher?

[Maria]

Crabs are like giant spiders of the sea.

No, apparently crabs and spiders are quite distinct anthropods.
However, horsecrabs really are significantly related to spiders!!!

I was thinking about the way crabs navigate with their long legs when I said that "crabs are like giant spiders of the sea." Have you ever seen those huge kelp crab that we have on the Pacific Coast? Nasty guys. I had some close encounters of the worst kind. One just missed grabbing my finger. Shivers!

There is even a land spider that resembles a sand crab. Cute little thing.

Arthropods are diverse and fascinating.

[Maria]

Regarding grasshoppers and locusts:

A metabolic change occurs when conditions are ripe which triggers simple grasshoppers to change into large locusts which can form into huge clouds and migrate causing much damage to agricultural crops.

It is said that St. John the Forerunner fasted on honey and locusts.
However, some guy here on OC.net said that it was not really locusts but the locust tree fruit.

What do the Church Fathers have to say?

Did St. John eat the grasshoppers known as locusts?

I think I was that guy. When I visited the Holy Land, that's what we were told. Locust or carob pods are ubiquitous, indigenous, and available annually. Insect locusts are only around every few years, IIRC. Are they even kosher?

Good question.

[yeshuaisiam]

Regarding grasshoppers and locusts:

A metabolic change occurs when conditions are ripe which triggers simple grasshoppers to change into large locusts which can form into huge clouds and migrate causing much damage to agricultural crops.

It is said that St. John the Forerunner fasted on honey and locusts.
However, some guy here on OC.net said that it was not really locusts but the locust tree fruit.

What do the Church Fathers have to say?

Did St. John eat the grasshoppers known as locusts?

I think I was that guy. When I visited the Holy Land, that's what we were told. Locust or carob pods are ubiquitous, indigenous, and available annually. Insect locusts are only around every few years, IIRC. Are they even kosher?

Good question.

Yes, locusts are the only invertibrate that are Kosher.

This threads pretty gross.  LOL

However, I did eat a fuzzy noodle my daughter dropped under the table 2 days ago....

[LBK]

However, I did eat a fuzzy noodle my daughter dropped under the table 2 days ago....

Now that's taking "waste not, want not" just a bit too far .... 

[augustin717]

i used to eat cherries with those little red or white worms inside all the time. I mean never really bothered to get them out when climbing the tree and eating them up there.

[Achronos]

However, I did eat a fuzzy noodle my daughter dropped under the table 2 days ago....

Uh..

...


....

what?

[ialmisry]

I wouldn't eat mushroom soup if I knew there were mushrooms in it.

Heretic! There is no better soup than chanterelle one.

Actually, Poland is the only place I've ever eaten the mushrooms.

[ialmisry]

People are missing the obvious issue here.

Does this break the Lenten fast?

 

Of course not, insects are invertebrates, and thus very edible items for Great Lent.

Snails are also invertebrates as are shrimp (insects of the sea).

So is lobster and crab

Crabs are like giant spiders of the sea.

In Arabic we call lobster "sea locusts" and shrimp "sea fleas."

[ialmisry]

Regarding grasshoppers and locusts:

A metabolic change occurs when conditions are ripe which triggers simple grasshoppers to change into large locusts which can form into huge clouds and migrate causing much damage to agricultural crops.

It is said that St. John the Forerunner fasted on honey and locusts.
However, some guy here on OC.net said that it was not really locusts but the locust tree fruit.

What do the Church Fathers have to say?

Did St. John eat the grasshoppers known as locusts?

I think I was that guy. When I visited the Holy Land, that's what we were told. Locust or carob pods are ubiquitous, indigenous, and available annually. Insect locusts are only around every few years, IIRC. Are they even kosher?

Good question.

Yes, locusts are kosher Leviticus 11:20-23. But the rabbis allowed only a few species, and have further restricted them.

Evidently some monastic circles had problems with the idea that St. John the Baptist ever ate any living thing, and debated whether his diet consisted of locusts or carob.

[LBK]

In Arabic we call lobster "sea locusts" and shrimp "sea fleas."

... either the shrimps are tiny or the fleas are huge in those countries ..... 

[ialmisry]

So you think eating a few maggots with your soup is going to kill you, Maria? Sounds like a good source of protein to me.

That is exactly what Dr. Travis said, PeterTheAleut.

In Egypt and in the Middle East, humans enjoy a delicacy consisting of chocolate-covered swollen ant abdomens filled with honey.

News to me.  Repletes is definitely not an Arabic word.

A replete is a word used in entomology to describe the worker ant that stores honey in its abdomen for the hive to use. People harvest these repletes by detaching the abdomen from the ant, and then dipping it into chocolate. It tastes much like a honey filled rice crispy. They are delicious and sweet.

Funny, the former king of Saudi Arabic gifted these delicacies to my dad when he visited that country as part of a scientific delegation from the USA. The boxes of chocolate were inscribed in Arabic.

Sure it didn't say "Do not eat"?  They're not halaal.

Maybe ifranji gifts for the ifranj.

[PeterTheAleut]

In Arabic we call lobster "sea locusts" and shrimp "sea fleas."

... either the shrimps are tiny or the fleas are huge in those countries .....  

A flea that big would be able to jump to the moon!

[Maria]

I opened a can of boysenberry jam and found an earwig in the top 1/8 inch.
Apparently, earwigs are commonly found in boysenberry jam as they hide in the fruit.
I lost my appetite for boysenberry jam for about a month.

Oh, people who are allergic to honeybees might react to wine as honeybees are often crushed along with the grapes.

[PeterTheAleut]

I opened a can of boysenberry jam and found an earwig in the top 1/8 inch.
Apparently, earwigs are commonly found in boysenberry jam as they hide in the fruit.
I lost my appetite for boysenberry jam for about a month.

Oh, people who are allergic to honeybees might react to wine as honeybees are often crushed along with the grapes.

Hey, maybe the honey will sweeten the wine.

I've eaten snails before. Who knows what dung heaps they may have crawled over? Oh, that's right, they were sea snails. Then again, I imagine fish dung will eventually make its way to the bottom of the sea.

[Maria]

I opened a can of boysenberry jam and found an earwig in the top 1/8 inch.
Apparently, earwigs are commonly found in boysenberry jam as they hide in the fruit.
I lost my appetite for boysenberry jam for about a month.

Oh, people who are allergic to honeybees might react to wine as honeybees are often crushed along with the grapes.

Hey, maybe the honey will sweeten the wine.

I've eaten snails before. Who knows what dung heaps they may have crawled over? Oh, that's right, they were sea snails. Then again, I imagine fish dung will eventually make its way to the bottom of the sea.

No doubt, the honeybee's honey will sweeten the pot of wine.

Sea slugs are also very interesting. Asians like to eat the animals that creep on the bottom of our oceans and seas: Sea urchins, sea slugs, and sea snail. I took an upper division class in marine invertebrates. It was a fascinating class. The professor kept a pet octopus in his large invertebrate classroom tank. The critter was an escape artist. Our professor fattened it as almost all of the invertebrates placed in that tank were fair game for the octopus, and then the professor cooked and ate it at the end of the class. PETA would be so happy (No!).

Clams are also bottom feeders and so are shrimp, lobster, and crabs.

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