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IOW, you have no argument. Of course language changes, but it changes amid discord. In your absurd notion of language change, you would poll all speakers of a language (if you could decide who is a speaker of a language) then at some point of majority usage language would have changed. One speaker fewer, no change.
Sorry but your entire approach to this is riddled with so many ontological problems regarding language and otherwise.
Really? You got all of that out of "Languages change. Get over it"? Internet forums have the tendency to attract people who are extremely pedantic (or should I say, "online personalities" who are extremely pedantic). Because there are so many more on the internet who are children who need to be led. Speck, meet plank. I would agree with you in the relative degree to which the respective posters need led. |
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« Reply #47 on: February 15, 2013, 05:46:55 PM » |
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Lord have mercy. Paraphrasing C.S. Lewis in the Chronicles of Narnia: What are they teaching youngsters today? Or better yet, what are they not. |
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« Reply #48 on: February 15, 2013, 06:29:42 PM » |
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IOW, you have no argument. Of course language changes, but it changes amid discord. In your absurd notion of language change, you would poll all speakers of a language (if you could decide who is a speaker of a language) then at some point of majority usage language would have changed. One speaker fewer, no change.
Sorry but your entire approach to this is riddled with so many ontological problems regarding language and otherwise.
Really? You got all of that out of "Languages change. Get over it"? Internet forums have the tendency to attract people who are extremely pedantic (or should I say, "online personalities" who are extremely pedantic). Because there are so many more on the internet who are children who need to be led. Hurray for condescending paternalism! |
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It's kinda funny that an anonymous Russian military source claimed they shot it down (which was denied on an official level). That statement apparently has no factual basis or support and simply came from a local newspaper quoting an anonymous source, which was later refuted by officials. That does bring up a good idea though, with technology like this: CRAM Phalanx Anti-Missile Defense: http://youtu.be/qLmBfWowLhghttp://youtu.be/ILcVt9p7cugMTHEL Laser Anti-Missile Defense: http://youtu.be/LThD0FMvTFURAFAEL's Trophy System: http://youtu.be/-2IqZhonKzUI wonder if we could eventually develop it to a point where instead of intercepting a 15lb missile going 115m/s, you could intercept a solid, several-thousand ton object going 15km/s. Obviously that probably is a long way off technology-wise. But I think it definitely would be something we need to think about. |
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« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2013, 12:43:52 AM » |
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IOW, you have no argument. Of course language changes, but it changes amid discord. In your absurd notion of language change, you would poll all speakers of a language (if you could decide who is a speaker of a language) then at some point of majority usage language would have changed. One speaker fewer, no change.
Sorry but your entire approach to this is riddled with so many ontological problems regarding language and otherwise.
Really? You got all of that out of "Languages change. Get over it"? Internet forums have the tendency to attract people who are extremely pedantic (or should I say, "online personalities" who are extremely pedantic). Because there are so many more on the internet who are children who need to be led. Hurray for condescending paternalism! Not much with language are you? Don't call me something then get upset when I agree. |
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« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2013, 12:53:42 AM » |
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Interesting that this happened on the day that all our attention was focused on the little asteroid which passed by some odd hours later. The meteor sneaked up on us.  Ironic, ain't it? |
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« Reply #53 on: February 16, 2013, 01:06:20 AM » |
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Ironic, ain't it? Yes, and considering the mass of the asteroid, it would not surprise me if it had a considerable amount of ironic in it. |
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« Reply #54 on: February 16, 2013, 02:59:24 AM » |
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Ironic, ain't it? Yes, and considering the mass of the asteroid, it would not surprise me if it had a considerable amount of ironic in it. Careful, your play on words might be misconstrued as an assault on the English language. |
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« Reply #55 on: February 16, 2013, 03:18:08 AM » |
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Of course I do!
^---------That is irony.
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« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2013, 03:19:16 AM » |
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So what does your tangent on linguistics have to do with the topic of this thread? Is the sky going to fall on us if we don't have a proper understanding of language?
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« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2013, 03:23:34 AM » |
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Lord have mercy. Paraphrasing C.S. Lewis in the Chronicles of Narnia: What are they teaching youngsters today? I know. Is global warming to blame for winter blizzards? Also, what is a "meteoric occasion"? |
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« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2013, 05:33:07 AM » |
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Sure glad it wasn't my country; we're already killing ourselves through morbid obesity.
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« Reply #59 on: February 16, 2013, 05:34:48 AM » |
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Of course I do!
^---------That is irony.
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« Reply #60 on: February 16, 2013, 09:06:38 AM » |
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I know. Is global warming to blame for winter blizzards? So you think that the change in Climate has nothing to do with extreme weather conditions? I think it has to do with winter. |
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« Reply #62 on: February 16, 2013, 11:19:37 AM » |
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IOW, you have no argument. Of course language changes, but it changes amid discord. In your absurd notion of language change, you would poll all speakers of a language (if you could decide who is a speaker of a language) then at some point of majority usage language would have changed. One speaker fewer, no change.
Sorry but your entire approach to this is riddled with so many ontological problems regarding language and otherwise.
Really? You got all of that out of "Languages change. Get over it"? Internet forums have the tendency to attract people who are extremely pedantic (or should I say, "online personalities" who are extremely pedantic). Because there are so many more on the internet who are children who need to be led. Hurray for condescending paternalism! Not much with language are you? Don't call me something then get upset when I agree. It's not your agreeing that "upsets" me, it's your rationale. |
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Ironic, ain't it? Yes, and considering the mass of the asteroid, it would not surprise me if it had a considerable amount of ironic in it. Careful, your play on words might be misconstrued as an assault on the English language. I like to pepper my posts with puns. Assaulting tends to lead to high blood pressure. |
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« Reply #64 on: February 16, 2013, 03:52:44 PM » |
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I learned what irony is from Alanis Morisette.
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« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2013, 03:52:44 PM » |
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Ironic, ain't it? Yes, and considering the mass of the asteroid, it would not surprise me if it had a considerable amount of ironic in it. Careful, your play on words might be misconstrued as an assault on the English language. I like to pepper my posts with puns. Assaulting tends to lead to high blood pressure. Mayo please stop making me laugh so hard |
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« Reply #66 on: February 16, 2013, 06:42:05 PM » |
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Sure glad it wasn't my country; we're already killing ourselves through morbid obesity.
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« Reply #67 on: February 16, 2013, 11:35:20 PM » |
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Sure glad it wasn't my country; we're already killing ourselves through morbid obesity.
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« Reply #68 on: February 17, 2013, 08:23:15 AM » |
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Where are the aftermath photos of it crashing and landing the last I heard was that it had the strength of 20 Hiroshima bombs is that true ??
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Where are the aftermath photos of it crashing and landing the last I heard was that it had the strength of 20 Hiroshima bombs is that true ??
I don't know about the last part, but here's a video showing some of the damage as it happened. |
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Where are the aftermath photos of it crashing and landing the last I heard was that it had the strength of 20 Hiroshima bombs is that true ??
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« Reply #72 on: February 18, 2013, 08:27:11 PM » |
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So, why won't authorities allow news crews to film the largest piece that landed in the frozen lake?
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« Reply #73 on: February 18, 2013, 08:28:44 PM » |
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So, why won't authorities allow news crews to film the largest piece that landed in the frozen lake?
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« Reply #74 on: February 18, 2013, 08:41:41 PM » |
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Yes....very "holey"....especially where the meteorite hit.
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« Reply #75 on: February 19, 2013, 12:18:00 AM » |
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Yes....very "holey"....especially where the meteorite hit.
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