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Saint Valentine in the OO Communion
« on: February 14, 2013, 10:37:35 AM »
Is St. Valentine (I'm not sure which one) venerated in any of the OO local churches? I noticed he lived pre-Chalcedon so that got me wondering on the subject.

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Re: Saint Valentine in the OO Communion
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2013, 10:56:00 AM »
I don't know how it is in the other Oriental Churches, but the Armenian Church doesn't venerate him.

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Re: Saint Valentine in the OO Communion
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2013, 12:46:35 PM »
This is an EO source, but I'd guess the same logic applies for us.

Saint Valentine and Orthodoxy

Many, however, raise the objection that St. Valentine is not mentioned anywhere in the calendar of the Orthodox Church. Indeed on 14 February in the calendar of the Church there are commemorated Saints Auxentios, Maron and the martyrs Nicholas and Damian. The explanation is simple: in ancient times hagiographic directories, biographies and martyrologia were written to be primarily used locally in their own character, and the fame and reputation of a saint locally does not mean that it extended also throughout the Church. So there may be saints honored widely in one region and completely unknown in another, eg, St. Demetrios, who is famous throughout the Eastern Church, yet in the West is not honored at all, and is almost unknown, but this does not mean that he is not a saint. Another example of the modern Church: St. Chrysostomos of Smyrna († 1922) who in Greece is known, yet in Russia is completely unknown, but this does not mean that he is not a saint.


http://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2011/02/orthodox-saint-valentine.html
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Re: Saint Valentine in the OO Communion
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2013, 01:05:19 PM »
This is an EO source, but I'd guess the same logic applies for us.

Saint Valentine and Orthodoxy

Many, however, raise the objection that St. Valentine is not mentioned anywhere in the calendar of the Orthodox Church. Indeed on 14 February in the calendar of the Church there are commemorated Saints Auxentios, Maron and the martyrs Nicholas and Damian. The explanation is simple: in ancient times hagiographic directories, biographies and martyrologia were written to be primarily used locally in their own character, and the fame and reputation of a saint locally does not mean that it extended also throughout the Church. So there may be saints honored widely in one region and completely unknown in another, eg, St. Demetrios, who is famous throughout the Eastern Church, yet in the West is not honored at all, and is almost unknown, but this does not mean that he is not a saint. Another example of the modern Church: St. Chrysostomos of Smyrna († 1922) who in Greece is known, yet in Russia is completely unknown, but this does not mean that he is not a saint.


http://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2011/02/orthodox-saint-valentine.html

Yeah I know about "local" saints, I was just wondering if the tradition of venerating St. Valentine actually existed in our communion somewhere.

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Re: Saint Valentine in the OO Communion
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2013, 01:09:11 PM »
Then no for Coptic which I'd assume goes for Ethiopia & Eritrea.
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Re: Saint Valentine in the OO Communion
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2013, 01:27:42 PM »
Nah...today we celebrate the commemoration of Pope St. Tawadros....the first  ;)

(want to know something scandalous?  St. Gregory the Theologian is no where to be found in our Synexarium, despite the fact we use his liturgy)
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