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Offline Theophilos78

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Zachariah's job?
« on: February 14, 2013, 03:25:30 PM »
Apart from being a priest in the Temple, did Zachariah (John the Baptist's father) have a job? Do we have a teaching that identifies Zachariah as a carpenter? I came across this weird teaching in a traditional Muslim source and was baffled.  ???

The word Zakariyya in the Ayah has been recited with elongation and also shortened. Both recitations are well-known. He was a great Prophet from the Prophets of the Children of Israel. In Sahih Al-Bukhari, it is recorded ﴿that the Prophet said about Zakariyya﴾ that He was a carpenter who used to eat from what he earned with his own hand through carpentry.

Source: http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2693&Itemid=75
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Re: Zachariah's job?
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2013, 03:35:30 PM »
Apart from being a priest in the Temple, did Zachariah (John the Baptist's father) have a job? Do we have a teaching that identifies Zachariah as a carpenter? I came across this weird teaching in a traditional Muslim source and was baffled.  ???

The word Zakariyya in the Ayah has been recited with elongation and also shortened. Both recitations are well-known. He was a great Prophet from the Prophets of the Children of Israel. In Sahih Al-Bukhari, it is recorded ﴿that the Prophet said about Zakariyya﴾ that He was a carpenter who used to eat from what he earned with his own hand through carpentry.

Source: http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2693&Itemid=75

Al-Bukhari is probably confusing/conflating Zacharias with Joseph (I wonder if there's anything about him in the Muslim tradition).

According to the Torah, Priests and Levites had to be supported by the rest of the tribes, because they didn't get any land in Israel.

Hence the rule qui servit altari, de altare vivat ("who serves the altar, should live from the altar") in Latin Canon Law.
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Offline Theophilos78

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Re: Zachariah's job?
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2013, 03:44:37 PM »
Apart from being a priest in the Temple, did Zachariah (John the Baptist's father) have a job? Do we have a teaching that identifies Zachariah as a carpenter? I came across this weird teaching in a traditional Muslim source and was baffled.  ???

The word Zakariyya in the Ayah has been recited with elongation and also shortened. Both recitations are well-known. He was a great Prophet from the Prophets of the Children of Israel. In Sahih Al-Bukhari, it is recorded ﴿that the Prophet said about Zakariyya﴾ that He was a carpenter who used to eat from what he earned with his own hand through carpentry.

Source: http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2693&Itemid=75

Al-Bukhari is probably confusing/conflating Zacharias with Joseph (I wonder if there's anything about him in the Muslim tradition).
According to the Torah, Priests and Levites had to be supported by the rest of the tribes, because they didn't get any land in Israel.

Hence the rule qui servit altari, de altare vivat ("who serves the altar, should live from the altar") in Latin Canon Law.

Thanks! That is what came to my mind the first time I heard this. Some time ago I started a project/series on Joseph the Carpenter's place in Islam:

http://answering-islam.org/authors/masihiyyen/joseph_carpenter1.html
http://answering-islam.org/authors/masihiyyen/joseph_carpenter2.html
http://answering-islam.org/authors/masihiyyen/joseph_carpenter3a.html
http://answering-islam.org/authors/masihiyyen/joseph_carpenter3b.html

Particularly, in the third article Joseph's odd replacement with Zechariah is discussed in details:

Joseph’s selection by lots as Mary’s caretaker in the Gospel of James, on the other hand, is not implausible since Mary reached her puberty while staying in the Temple and the priests did not really know who would take Mary out of the Temple into his house as his wife. Naturally, they needed divine guidance and therefore asked Zechariah the high priest to pray about this matter. The angel of the Lord appearing to Zechariah explained what should be done to choose a spouse and male caretaker for Mary. Muslim scholars commenting on Surah 3:44 obviously distorted this original narrative to fabricate their baseless story. They readily replaced Joseph the Carpenter with Zechariah when they changed the occasion and time of a male caretaker’s appointment for Mary. The result was the innovated presumption that a male guardian was chosen by lots for Mary at the time of her entrance to the Temple in her infancy rather than at the time of her departure from the Temple after her puberty. 


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