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I've been talking to some people and saw some videos about how Jews control the media, government, economy, and are trying to destroy any sense of culture in America through these means. One of the ways they try to do this is multiculturalism.
What do you guys think of this? I saw an Orthodox monk on Youtube by the name of Brother Nathanael who makes videos about the topic.
I've also heard that the Holocaust wasn't what we think it is, and that people like Elie Weizel are lying about gas chambers and such. Apparently Hitler sought to remove the Jews, not wipe them out. Though many Jews and others did die while at concentration camps (mostly from starvation and disease, a opposed to murder via gas chambers).
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2013, 09:41:54 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2013, 09:54:11 PM » |
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I've been talking to some people and saw some videos about how Jews control the media, government, economy, and are trying to destroy any sense of culture in America through these means. One of the ways they try to do this is multiculturalism.
What do you guys think of this? I saw an Orthodox monk on Youtube by the name of Brother Nathanael who makes videos about the topic.
I've also heard that the Holocaust wasn't what we think it is, and that people like Elie Weizel are lying about gas chambers and such. Apparently Hitler sought to remove the Jews, not wipe them out. Though many Jews and others did die while at concentration camps (mostly from starvation and disease, a opposed to murder via gas chambers).
Even nazi-sympathiser and the king of holocaust revisionism, David Irving, has had to amend his positions considerably in recent years due to the overwhelming evidence, although he still maintains that Hitler was unaware of the full extent of the operations.
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2013, 10:10:13 PM » |
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I've been talking to some people and saw some videos about how Jews control the media, government, economy, and are trying to destroy any sense of culture in America through these means. One of the ways they try to do this is multiculturalism.
What do you guys think of this? I saw an Orthodox monk on Youtube by the name of Brother Nathanael who makes videos about the topic.
I've also heard that the Holocaust wasn't what we think it is, and that people like Elie Weizel are lying about gas chambers and such. Apparently Hitler sought to remove the Jews, not wipe them out. Though many Jews and others did die while at concentration camps (mostly from starvation and disease, a opposed to murder via gas chambers).
Nathanael is not an Orthodox monk He only plays on on You Tube. The Holocaust did happen. The only people who say it did not are people who have an agenda and twist history for that purpose. Saying Hitler wanted only to remove the Jews, not wipe them out, ignores a ton of evidence and falls back on Nazi propaganda. Destroying culture in America? What culture? Yogurt has more culture. Truly, much of the work has already been done to destroy and degrade society has been done by non-Jews. Also, who are Jews? They can't even settle this satisfactorily in Israel. Are they religious adherents? Members of an ethnic group? Are they self-identified or identified by lineage? The fact that defining who is a Jew is not a settled process and depends on who is doing the defining really breaks down the conspiracy theory, I think. It's like if you say Greek Orthodox Christians rule the world. Who are they? Are they all ethnically Greek? What about Cat Stevens? You need to change the people you talk to and the videos you watch, really.
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2013, 10:12:26 PM » |
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I've been talking to some people and saw some videos about how Jews control the media, government, economy, and are trying to destroy any sense of culture in America through these means. One of the ways they try to do this is multiculturalism.
What do you guys think of this? I saw an Orthodox monk on Youtube by the name of Brother Nathanael who makes videos about the topic.
I've also heard that the Holocaust wasn't what we think it is, and that people like Elie Weizel are lying about gas chambers and such. Apparently Hitler sought to remove the Jews, not wipe them out. Though many Jews and others did die while at concentration camps (mostly from starvation and disease, a opposed to murder via gas chambers).
Even nazi-sympathiser and the king of holocaust revisionism, David Irving, has had to amend his positions considerably in recent years due to the overwhelming evidence, although he still maintains that Hitler was unaware of the full extent of the operations. In spite of all the evidence to the contrary. Ugh. It reminds me of an episode of Vicar of Dibley where a man picked to play Herod in the Christmas pageant insisted that Herod's order to kill the children in Bethlehem was simply misheard, and he really said, "kiss the children."
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2013, 10:23:01 PM » |
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In spite of all the evidence to the contrary. Ugh.
It reminds me of an episode of Vicar of Dibley where a man picked to play Herod in the Christmas pageant insisted that Herod's order to kill the children in Bethlehem was simply misheard, and he really said, "kiss the children."
Indeed, but it can only be good news when even Irving - whose older works are what you'll hear referred to by almost every single holocaust denier - has said quite clearly that you have to be an idiot to deny the holocaust.
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2013, 11:19:22 PM » |
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I've been talking to some people and saw some videos about how Jews control the media, government, economy, and are trying to destroy any sense of culture in America through these means. One of the ways they try to do this is multiculturalism.
What do you guys think of this? I saw an Orthodox monk on Youtube by the name of Brother Nathanael who makes videos about the topic.
I've also heard that the Holocaust wasn't what we think it is, and that people like Elie Weizel are lying about gas chambers and such. Apparently Hitler sought to remove the Jews, not wipe them out. Though many Jews and others did die while at concentration camps (mostly from starvation and disease, a opposed to murder via gas chambers).
I am familiar with some of these ideas. Less so with the holocaust revisionists because I have never been impelled to look much into that aspect. The scope of the holocaust, barring discrepancies of plus or minus 1 million souls, seems a point beyond much dispute. Professor Kevin MacDonald, for instance, has marshalled some fairly impressive evidence, relying on solid historical sources- in many cases derived from Jewish historians and journalists- for the distinctive role of Jewish lobbies and financiers in the Bolshevik revolution, the drastic immigration reforms in the U.S., and the Neo-Conservative takeover of U.S. foreign policy to take but a few examples. So there is some food for thought there, certainly. The question I find myself asking is: what effect does focusing on such ideas have on my life as a Christian? I have come to the conclusion that many of the people who spend a great deal of time interrogating these matters seem to inflate this into a meta-narrative and wind up engaging exclusively with information that conforms to their orientation. So there is always a danger that it will become an idee fixe. For me, life is simply too short for this sort of pre-occupation taking up much space. However, if you find you can study these matters in a rational, charitable and disinterested fashion without succumbing to paranoia or hatred of your neighbor or being consumed by a rigid ideology, then more power to you. But as human beings we are easily tempted, so I would urge caution to anyone still struggling to be cleansed of the blameworthy passions in pursuing these questions to any great extent (probably the biggest reason I have had to lay it aside.) I would honestly advise talking to your priest or spiritual father about it and see whether he approves of you pursuing such areas of study. By all means avoid the internet as a primary means of gleaning information, especially the videos. Stick to academic histories. The aforementioned Prof. MacDonald's works are frankly too speculative. His facts are hard to dispute but the conclusions are debateable. 'Esau's Tears: Modern Anti-Semitism and the Rise of the Jews' by Professor Albert Lindemann is pretty free of speculation or prejudice, and provides a good overview of the socio-political context of the origins of what we are still struggling with to this day.
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2013, 11:26:39 PM » |
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I was present at the 1999 Archon presentation to Elie Weisel in New York. His address upon accepting the Athenogoras award was powerful and stuck with me over the years. I remember the remarks introducing Mr. Weisel as well as the video produced by the Archons. The nonsense spewed by the likes of the so-called "brother" aren't worth the bandwidth used to post them and his ramblings are not reflective of real Orthodox teaching. I, for one, as someone related to and a friend of numerous good and faithful Orthodox clergy and monastics, will not acknowledge Kepner with any honorific. Doing so would dishonor those who have earned the use of such titles. A real novice monk would never wear a pectoral cross and engage in the hate filled self aggrandizement found on his postings.
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I would hop Weisel didn't speak about "forgiving God" (for His crimes) in the address.
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2013, 11:51:30 PM » |
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I've been talking to some people and saw some videos about how Jews control the media, government, economy, and are trying to destroy any sense of culture in America through these means. One of the ways they try to do this is multiculturalism.
What do you guys think of this? I saw an Orthodox monk on Youtube by the name of Brother Nathanael who makes videos about the topic.
I've also heard that the Holocaust wasn't what we think it is, and that people like Elie Weizel are lying about gas chambers and such. Apparently Hitler sought to remove the Jews, not wipe them out. Though many Jews and others did die while at concentration camps (mostly from starvation and disease, a opposed to murder via gas chambers).
I think you should stop talking to such people. They are an evil influence. They are not of God. The Jews cannot be blamed for anything and everything. We must look within ourselves. We are responsible for the world's failings. Our Lord's exhortation to the Church in Ephesus is needed now more than ever: “To the angel of the church in Ephesus write: ‘The words of him who holds the seven stars in his right hand, who walks among the seven golden lampstands. “‘I know your works, your toil and your patient endurance, and how you cannot bear with those who are evil, but have tested those who call themselves apostles and are not, and found them to be false. I know you are enduring patiently and bearing up for my name's sake, and you have not grown weary. But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first. Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent, and do the works you did at first. If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent." (Revelation 2:1-5)
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2013, 05:39:11 AM » |
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I would hop Weisel didn't speak about "forgiving God" (for His crimes) in the address.
Why not? It was legitimate issue for many Jews. And a sane reaction to the "problem of evil". I'm no Weisel fan, but if you haven't considered whether you ought to forgive God in your life, then you are a true atheist, or have known almost no suffering, or are a true Saint.
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We cannot legislate morality by passing laws controlling firearms. The only evil we can combat lies within our hearts. We need stronger laws to protect the moral foundation of society against the evil of gay marriage.
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2013, 08:01:23 AM » |
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Can we get Br Nathaniel to sign up on these boards and post?
If your wish was granted it may be you would come to regret it, methinks.
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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2013, 09:43:20 AM » |
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2013, 10:02:38 AM » |
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Can we get Br Nathaniel to sign up on these boards and post?
Or find our lost friend, sdcheung. Wonder where Φοτιος went?
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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2013, 01:17:21 PM » |
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I read the four posts which got him banned. I suspect that it would take fewer than that should he somehow rejoin and post his latest obsessions.
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I have never thought of the Holocaust as a form of Jew Control, but I guess one could make that connection.
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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2013, 03:23:59 PM » |
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In second thought, you are right. I had no idea he was associated with Gregory in Colorado. LOL that makes it even funnier.
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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2013, 04:05:59 PM » |
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I would hop Weisel didn't speak about "forgiving God" (for His crimes) in the address.
Why not? It was legitimate issue for many Jews. And a sane reaction to the "problem of evil". I'm no Weisel fan, but if you haven't considered whether you ought to forgive God in your life, then you are a true atheist, or have known almost no suffering, or are a true Saint. One of the sanest, clearest comments of yours that I've read on this board.
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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2013, 08:18:15 PM » |
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I would hop Weisel didn't speak about "forgiving God" (for His crimes) in the address.
Why not? It was legitimate issue for many Jews. And a sane reaction to the "problem of evil". I'm no Weisel fan, but if you haven't considered whether you ought to forgive God in your life, then you are a true atheist, or have known almost no suffering, or are a true Saint. One of the sanest, clearest comments of yours that I've read on this board. Really? This clown and Weasel or Wisel or whatever his name is actually would consider whether they should forgive the Almighty? I don't think I ever seen such a display of vanity and arrogance. But, then again, I don't think these type of people are true believers.
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In second thought, you are right. I had no idea he was associated with Gregory in Colorado. LOL that makes it even funnier. I think a couple people call him a bishop or archbishop.
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2013, 09:06:56 PM » |
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Can we get Br Nathaniel to sign up on these boards and post?
Or find our lost friend, sdcheung. Wonder where Φοτιος went? sdcheung got himself banned from this site for being an incorrigibly racist troll. http://www.orthodoxchristianity.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=439
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2013, 09:20:47 PM » |
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Didn't we just have this thread the other day? If it weren't for these threads, I wouldn't have even known he existed.
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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2013, 10:02:12 PM » |
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Holocaust Uncovered (1945) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tGwjwK9pIM&list=LLaXD6NDxEvClvikwFUDUiAwI recently acquired the knowledge that I have distant relatives who perished in Bergen-Belsen camp. After doing copious reading on the Holocaust and this particular camp, I can report that those who hold the opinion the OP expresses are full of crap and aught to have the sense beat into them. Didn't we already have this thread? "Brother Nathaniel" is crazy. And not a monk. He may call himself one and play dress up, but he's not a monk by any stretch of the imagination.
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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2013, 10:04:13 PM » |
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In second thought, you are right. I had no idea he was associated with Gregory in Colorado. LOL that makes it even funnier. I think a couple people call him a bishop or archbishop. That guy is nearly as nutty as "Bro. Nathaniel." I love my state, other than the fires, shootings, and schismatic heritics.
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« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2013, 10:10:32 PM » |
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I can report that those who hold the opinion the OP expresses are full of crap and aught to have the sense beat into them.
There have been at least a couple philosophers that have recommended something similar to this, but generally in reference to (external-world) skeptics. It may be possible to extrapolate - just kidding. 
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Holocaust Uncovered (1945) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tGwjwK9pIM&list=LLaXD6NDxEvClvikwFUDUiAwI recently acquired the knowledge that I have distant relatives who perished in Bergen-Belsen camp. After doing copious reading on the Holocaust and this particular camp , I can report that those who hold the opinion the OP expresses are full of crap and aught to have the sense beat into them.Didn't we already have this thread? "Brother Nathaniel" is crazy. And not a monk. He may call himself one and play dress up, but he's not a monk by any stretch of the imagination. So you want to pound someone just for asking a legitimate question? Lighten up tough guy. All you holocaust worshippers crack me up. the minute anyone dares to question anything about that industry, you're willing to just about kill someone over it. That alone proves most of you are paranoid and insecure about all the facts pertained to everything that really happened back then. And all this talk about Bro Nathaniel is amusing, that guy is smarter and more well read than about 90 percent of this forum, I believe he would slam just about anyone on here in a one on one debate concerning Jewish issues and the Church. That is if he was ever to get half the chance. I also would like someone on here to prove without a doubt this man is an illigitmate Orhtodox cleric.
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Holocaust Uncovered (1945) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tGwjwK9pIM&list=LLaXD6NDxEvClvikwFUDUiAwI recently acquired the knowledge that I have distant relatives who perished in Bergen-Belsen camp. After doing copious reading on the Holocaust and this particular camp , I can report that those who hold the opinion the OP expresses are full of crap and aught to have the sense beat into them.Didn't we already have this thread? "Brother Nathaniel" is crazy. And not a monk. He may call himself one and play dress up, but he's not a monk by any stretch of the imagination. So you want to pound someone just for asking a legitimate question? Lighten up tough guy. All you holocaust worshippers crack me up. the minute anyone dares to question anything about that industry, you're willing to just about kill someone over it. That alone proves most of you are paranoid and insecure about all the facts pertained to everything that really happened back then. No, I'm being humorous. Of course no one should die for an opinion. You overestimate my feelings just a tad. I'm not "paranoid and insecure about facts." We "Holocaust worshipers" (terribly stupid term) are merely upset because people doubt one of the worst bouts of persecution and execution in European history. Some of us have familial connections to the victims. Would you tell a person of African descent that the oppression of their people never happened or is somehow not as bad as they make it out to be?
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« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2013, 05:33:21 PM » |
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After Germany's program of Jew Control in the 1940's, my Grandmother noticed that most of the shops where she lived were owned by Jews. She once commented "If we killed so many of them, where did all of these come from?"
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« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2013, 05:35:07 PM » |
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After Germany's program of Jew Control in the 1940's, my Grandmother noticed that most of the shops where she lived were owned by Jews. She once commented "If we killed so many of them, where did all of these come from?"
We'll living NYC would confound someone I guess.
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« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2013, 05:38:58 PM » |
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After Germany's program of Jew Control in the 1940's, my Grandmother noticed that most of the shops where she lived were owned by Jews. She once commented "If we killed so many of them, where did all of these come from?"
We'll living NYC would confound someone I guess. Yeah, but the Americans were not alleged to be having the world's largest Jew-B-Q.
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« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2013, 05:40:46 PM » |
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After Germany's program of Jew Control in the 1940's, my Grandmother noticed that most of the shops where she lived were owned by Jews. She once commented "If we killed so many of them, where did all of these come from?"
A few did manage to survive, much to the chagrin of some people. Besides, you probably know that not all Jews were in Europe in the 1930's and 1940's.
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« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2013, 05:41:59 PM » |
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After Germany's program of Jew Control in the 1940's, my Grandmother noticed that most of the shops where she lived were owned by Jews. She once commented "If we killed so many of them, where did all of these come from?"
A few did manage to survive, much to the chagrin of some people. Besides, you probably know that not all Jews were in Europe in the 1930's and 1940's. Exactly. My grandmother's family moved from Germany to NJ before the wars.
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« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2013, 05:42:42 PM » |
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After Germany's program of Jew Control in the 1940's, my Grandmother noticed that most of the shops where she lived were owned by Jews. She once commented "If we killed so many of them, where did all of these come from?"
A few did manage to survive, much to the chagrin of some people. Besides, you probably know that not all Jews were in Europe in the 1930's and 1940's. True, of course. But why would any want to move there so shortly after the war?
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« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2013, 05:47:42 PM » |
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After Germany's program of Jew Control in the 1940's, my Grandmother noticed that most of the shops where she lived were owned by Jews. She once commented "If we killed so many of them, where did all of these come from?"
A few did manage to survive, much to the chagrin of some people. Besides, you probably know that not all Jews were in Europe in the 1930's and 1940's. True, of course. But why would any want to move there so shortly after the war? You'd have to ask them. I've never figured out why those who survived the Holocaust and stayed there would want to do so. But then, there is a multitude of things I've never figured out.
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« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2013, 05:53:03 PM » |
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After Germany's program of Jew Control in the 1940's, my Grandmother noticed that most of the shops where she lived were owned by Jews. She once commented "If we killed so many of them, where did all of these come from?"
Interesting comment.
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« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2013, 05:53:44 PM » |
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You'd have to ask them. I've never figured out why those who survived the Holocaust and stayed there would want to do so. But then, there is a multitude of things I've never figured out.
That makes two of us.
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