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Re: I wear the Brown Scapular
« Reply #90 on: January 14, 2005, 10:33:01 AM »
Exactly!
"Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord's[f] body. For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep." 1 Corinthians 11:27-30

Thanks, that was the quotation I was thinking of but couldn't chapter'n'verse.
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Re: I wear the Brown Scapular
« Reply #91 on: January 14, 2005, 02:04:30 PM »
What right do we have to accuse our own bishop of abomination?

Communing Protestants is wrong; we don't need to be bishops to know that.  I've seen "high church" Episcopalians denied their request for the Eucharist: why should Pentecostals be any different?   

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I went out on a limb by saying he was maybe Pentecostal. I only said this because he was waving his hands in the air while speaking in tongs.

And you are probably guessing correctly.  Doesn't make anything better. 

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Seemingly uutrageous circumstances sometimes call for seemingly outrageous exceptions.

I am privileged to know Hindus who radiate the love of Christ more than some Christians, including Orthodox Christians, even though they don't believe in Christ.  Can we give them Communion too? 

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I can think of a few. Perhaps Bishop Makorios felt in his heart that the Protestant man's gift of speaking in tongs served as a sign that for that particular circumstance, for that particular celebration of the Divine Liturgy, God wanted him to receive the Holy Mysteries.

Sorry, that's not good enough. 

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With all due respect to him, H.G. Mar Makarios has not been Metropolitan of America for a number of years now ("Senior Metropolitan" = "Metropolitan Emeritus").  Metropolitan of Canada and Europe, yes.  Now, if your parish has been incorporated into the latter diocese, or if the converts he brought into the Church depend directly on him (through some arrangement made by the Holy Synod), then I didn't know about that.  But he is not our bishop in America.   
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Re: I wear the Brown Scapular
« Reply #92 on: January 14, 2005, 04:02:45 PM »


Billy Graham is teaching a false gospel. Are you just trying to be as ridiculous as possible?

Gregory

False Gospel? How so? When he visited communist Russia and and the hierarchy and members of the Russian Orthodox Church embraced him as a Christian leader, was it for his "false Gospel"?
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Re: I wear the Brown Scapular
« Reply #93 on: January 15, 2005, 09:19:16 AM »
With all due respect to him, H.G. Mar Makarios has not been Metropolitan of America for a number of years now ("Senior Metropolitan" = "Metropolitan Emeritus"). Metropolitan of Canada and Europe, yes. Now, if your parish has been incorporated into the latter diocese, or if the converts he brought into the Church depend directly on him (through some arrangement made by the Holy Synod), then I didn't know about that. But he is not our bishop in America.

Phil,

I notice that Matthew's parish is one of the four committed to the Mission Society of Saint Gregorios of India, which I believe His Grace Mar Makarios founded and which I know he brought to the US.  As the Society maintains a website that provides links to other non-Mission parishes but focuses on its own institutions, I wonder if there isn't some sort of canonical distinction accorded to those, whereby they continue under the omophor of His Grace.

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Re: I wear the Brown Scapular
« Reply #94 on: January 15, 2005, 03:48:37 PM »
Dear Neil,

I am unaware of the Mission Society being a canonical structure independent of the local diocese, but it is possible (hence the "disclaimer" in my earlier post). 
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Re: I wear the Brown Scapular
« Reply #95 on: January 16, 2005, 04:52:03 PM »
I'm going to stop wearing the scapular as soon as I find a wooden tau cross to wear instead. ;)
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Re: I wear the Brown Scapular
« Reply #96 on: January 27, 2005, 05:40:43 PM »
I stopped wearing the scapular and now I wear a Russian Orthodox crucifix that my parents gave me for my birthday. :)
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Re: I wear the Brown Scapular
« Reply #97 on: January 27, 2005, 05:55:39 PM »
I stopped wearing the scapular and now I wear a Russian Orthodox crucifix that my parents gave me for my birthday. :)

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Re: I wear the Brown Scapular
« Reply #98 on: January 27, 2005, 05:59:05 PM »
and your spirit.
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Re: I wear the Brown Scapular
« Reply #99 on: January 28, 2005, 01:09:57 AM »
I am curious about your sudden change of heart, why'd you decide to stop wearing it?

btw - Don't forget to have your new cross blessed!  :)

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Re: I wear the Brown Scapular
« Reply #100 on: January 28, 2005, 04:00:05 PM »
I am curious about your sudden change of heart, why'd you decide to stop wearing it?

I figured that since I do not hold the same beliefs associated with the scapular as those who originated it, there is no necessity for me to wear it.
Furthermore, I really dig the three-bar cross. ;D
It's not to wear something on my person that distinguishes me as an Orthodox Christian. This is not a pride issue but it is just good for the people of the country be reminded that there is an Orthodox community within it.

btw - Don't forget to have your new cross blessed!

Duly noted.
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