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« on: September 03, 2014, 05:29:02 PM »


Need to remind you guys that English is not a native language of mine. Sorry for the misspellings.

Friend of mine who is kind of Agnostic. When we talked about something has to do with religion ( PS: I talk about religion so often with my friends, not to evangelize, but just discussions, but many western friends say to me " religion is private thing, here in the west we don't talk about religion " ). He said that he is a Christian. I was kind of surprised because I never thought he was Christian. Then he at the same time said that " ...but I don't believe that Christ was the Son of God..." , and doesn't really think about God that much. I wanted to say to him that he is wrong and if he will insist on rejecting Christ as the Son of God, he really is not Christian in the first place. But at the same time I was kind of worried to say that and to sound maybe dogmatic or to push him over the edge. So I decided to stay silent.

I wasn't and I'm not interested in "evangelizing" him. I just wanted to correct him and let him know that there are things you MUST believe in in order to be called Christian, but at the same time I didn't want to go into argument or to kill the last chance for him to get closet to Christianity.

What would you do ? Would you say it as it is or would you just keep silent ?

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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2014, 05:37:12 PM »

... I just wanted to correct him and let him know that there are things you MUST believe in in order to be called Christian ...

While you are right -- unfortunately, your friend also is right that there's not much one must claim or do to be Christian anymore. Just tell him clearly and simply what you think, and point out that what you think is still held by Orthodox Christians and some other very large churches. If you don't want to argue, don't.

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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2014, 06:34:11 PM »

Say whatever you want (Free Speech) Free to believe whatever you want (Freedom of Religion) ...
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2014, 07:01:53 PM »

Porter is right.  I cannot think of specific Churches that think that way, but with the Jesus Seminar and other writings of intellectuals, one might believe that.  If he is a good friend, perhaps invite him to Liturgy on occasion.  If he goes, the Liturgy can do the talking.
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2014, 07:40:02 PM »

Rest assured that someone who wants your opinion will likely ask for it.

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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2014, 07:52:08 PM »

Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe Jesus Christ is God - and I've never met a Mormon who did, either.

Both profess to be Christians.

Raylight, what country do you hail from, if you don't mind my asking?  Is freedom of speech a right your country enjoys?

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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2014, 08:07:46 PM »

Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe Jesus Christ is God - and I've never met a Mormon who did, either.

I had a Mormon missionary tell me that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three gods. Obviously, their use of the word "god" differs from ours.
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