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What are your thoughts on the scientific hypothesis of the multiverse/string theory? And what does it mean for Orthodoxy if it is true? Could there really be an alternative universe out there for every possible scenerio imaginable? I have to say, I find the notion that somewhere out there is a universe where I'm a few inches taller and all the girls like me to be quite comforting when I'm down (no pun intended)...
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2013, 04:53:31 AM » |
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It's an interesting speculation, I'm not sure that it would have any significant impact on Orthodox belief/practice though--no more than, say, aliens visiting us or something.
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2013, 05:27:18 AM » |
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I find the notion that somewhere out there is a universe where I'm a few inches taller and all the girls like me
I can assure you this strains the credibility of even the most speculative of sci-fi. |
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2013, 03:37:17 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2013, 04:22:10 PM » |
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I find the notion that somewhere out there is a universe where I'm a few inches taller and all the girls like me
I can assure you this strains the credibility of even the most speculative of sci-fi. Psst! It's not your altitude. It's your attitude. Been short all my life, never had a problem with the fairer sex (until one or more became "the ex_")  |
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2013, 04:38:15 PM » |
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Maybe one of those universes includes middle earth.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2013, 04:58:10 PM » |
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Maybe in one universe all the Orthodox Bishops are united under the Pope
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2013, 05:10:00 PM » |
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Isn't a multiverse counter to the Will of God? How could the universe have multiple varying existence? Does it mean God's will is every possible possibility? I thought there is only one truth?
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2013, 05:59:21 PM » |
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Isn't a multiverse counter to the Will of God? How could the universe have multiple varying existence? Does it mean God's will is every possible possibility? I thought there is only one truth?
We've been here before. Multiverse is fanboi stupidity. There cannot be more than ONE UNIverse. It's sorta the point of the UNIverse. And it is non-falsifiable, so who cares. It also ruins sci-fi. |
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2013, 06:00:44 PM » |
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Isn't a multiverse counter to the Will of God? How could the universe have multiple varying existence? Does it mean God's will is every possible possibility? I thought there is only one truth?
We've been here before. Multiverse is fanboi stupidity. There cannot be more than ONE UNIverse. It's sorta the point of the UNIverse. And it is non-falsifiable, so who cares. It also ruins sci-fi. Not a Michael Moorcock fan? |
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2013, 06:04:38 PM » |
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Isn't a multiverse counter to the Will of God? How could the universe have multiple varying existence? Does it mean God's will is every possible possibility? I thought there is only one truth?
We've been here before. Multiverse is fanboi stupidity. There cannot be more than ONE UNIverse. It's sorta the point of the UNIverse. And it is non-falsifiable, so who cares. It also ruins sci-fi. Not a Michael Moorcock fan? How can this not go magnificently? Haven't read his stuff (I almost have read nothing I critique, so that doesn't necessarily get in the way), but I think he mocks Tolkien, so that makes him at least halfway decent. |
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2013, 06:11:10 PM » |
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Isn't a multiverse counter to the Will of God? How could the universe have multiple varying existence? Does it mean God's will is every possible possibility? I thought there is only one truth?
We've been here before. Multiverse is fanboi stupidity. There cannot be more than ONE UNIverse. It's sorta the point of the UNIverse. And it is non-falsifiable, so who cares. It also ruins sci-fi. Not a Michael Moorcock fan? How can this not go magnificently? Haven't read his stuff (I almost have read nothing I critique, so that doesn't necessarily get in the way), but I think he mocks Tolkien, so that makes him at least halfway decent. He has a fun article called "Starship Stormtroopers" which can be read here. I disagree with a great deal of what he says, but his skewering of right-wing sci-fi and fantasy is very enjoyable. |
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2013, 06:13:35 PM » |
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I'm a Lovecraft fan, but I love his quote about Lovecraft:
"Lovecraft appeals to us primarily when we are ourselves feeling morbid. Apart from his offensively awful writing and a resultant inability to describe his horrors (leaving us to do the work -- the secret of his success: we're all better writers than he is!) he is rarely as frightening, by implication, as most of the other highly popular writers whose concerns are not with "meeping Things" but with idealised versions of society. "
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2013, 06:14:05 PM » |
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Isn't a multiverse counter to the Will of God? How could the universe have multiple varying existence? Does it mean God's will is every possible possibility? I thought there is only one truth?
We've been here before. Multiverse is fanboi stupidity. There cannot be more than ONE UNIverse. It's sorta the point of the UNIverse. And it is non-falsifiable, so who cares. It also ruins sci-fi. Not a Michael Moorcock fan? How can this not go magnificently? Haven't read his stuff (I almost have read nothing I critique, so that doesn't necessarily get in the way), but I think he mocks Tolkien, so that makes him at least halfway decent. He has a fun article called "Starship Stormtroopers" which can be read here. I disagree with a great deal of what he says, but his skewering of right-wing sci-fi and fantasy is very enjoyable. Thanks. |
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2013, 06:14:29 PM » |
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Isn't a multiverse counter to the Will of God? How could the universe have multiple varying existence? Does it mean God's will is every possible possibility? I thought there is only one truth?
We've been here before. Multiverse is fanboi stupidity. There cannot be more than ONE UNIverse. It's sorta the point of the UNIverse. And it is non-falsifiable, so who cares. It also ruins sci-fi. Not a Michael Moorcock fan? How can this not go magnificently? Haven't read his stuff (I almost have read nothing I critique, so that doesn't necessarily get in the way), but I think he mocks Tolkien, so that makes him at least halfway decent. He has a fun article called "Starship Stormtroopers" which can be read here. I disagree with a great deal of what he says, but his skewering of right-wing sci-fi and fantasy is very enjoyable. I stopped after the first couple sentences. This takes away from my enjoyable memories of the Elric books. Moorcock sounds like a jerk. |
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2013, 06:15:50 PM » |
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Isn't a multiverse counter to the Will of God? How could the universe have multiple varying existence? Does it mean God's will is every possible possibility? I thought there is only one truth?
We've been here before. Multiverse is fanboi stupidity. There cannot be more than ONE UNIverse. It's sorta the point of the UNIverse. And it is non-falsifiable, so who cares. It also ruins sci-fi. I just hate it when I agree with you...grrrrrr. |
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2013, 06:22:23 PM » |
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Maybe in one universe all the Orthodox Bishops are united under with the Pope
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2013, 09:45:50 AM » |
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Isn't a multiverse counter to the Will of God? How could the universe have multiple varying existence? Does it mean God's will is every possible possibility? I thought there is only one truth?
We've been here before. Multiverse is fanboi stupidity. There cannot be more than ONE UNIverse. It's sorta the point of the UNIverse. And it is non-falsifiable, so who cares. It also ruins sci-fi. Not a Michael Moorcock fan? How can this not go magnificently? Haven't read his stuff (I almost have read nothing I critique, so that doesn't necessarily get in the way), but I think he mocks Tolkien, so that makes him at least halfway decent. He has a fun article called "Starship Stormtroopers" which can be read here. I disagree with a great deal of what he says, but his skewering of right-wing sci-fi and fantasy is very enjoyable. I stopped after the first couple sentences. This takes away from my enjoyable memories of the Elric books. Moorcock sounds like a jerk. He goes after a lot of sacred cows and people who do that, no matter how much they're in the right, are sorely tempted to overstate the case. That said I honestly enjoy him at his most jerky moments. From everything I've read/ heard Moorcock is a really nice guy in person. |
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