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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2013, 01:17:14 PM » |
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Funny, I was just reflecting yesterday how next year will be a century after WWI.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2013, 01:22:34 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2013, 01:50:41 PM » |
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How is this a "Christian" news?
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2013, 01:59:28 PM » |
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How is this a "Christian" news?
 Because they are christians? and there is a celebration for them? and the last ones are saints? ringing of church bell not heard in very long time?
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2013, 03:19:24 PM » |
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What kind of a ceremony is this, by the way? It would seem to me that a commemoration of a royal family's rein would include "Many Years" for them, but in this case, they are not reining. Of what do the prayers ask? Or is it a memorial service for the departed? (I don't understand Church Slavonic.)
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2013, 03:23:30 PM » |
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How is this a "Christian" news?
It is an activity of the Patriarch of Moscow; his activities are news, and he certainly is Christian, as were the Romanov's, Orthodox Christians in fact.
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2013, 03:36:17 PM » |
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Do modern Romanovs still want to abolish the Patriarchate?
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2013, 03:50:20 PM » |
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Do modern Romanovs still want to abolish the Patriarchate?
How is that relevant?
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2013, 04:05:20 PM » |
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I do not understand why to celebrate the jubilee of a family that fought with the Church so harsh? Have they forgotten about Peter the Great, about Catherine II?
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I do not understand why to celebrate the jubilee of a family that fought with the Church so harsh? Have they forgotten about Peter the Great, about Catherine II?
That I don't know about. I guess you'd have to ask the Russian Orthodox Church. I don't think, though, that yesterday was an anniversary pertaining to either Peter the Great or Catherine II--have either of them been canonized?
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2013, 04:26:10 PM » |
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I do not understand why to celebrate the jubilee of a family that fought with the Church so harsh? Have they forgotten about Peter the Great, about Catherine II?
That I don't know about. I guess you'd have to ask the Russian Orthodox Church. I don't think, though, that yesterday was an anniversary pertaining to either Peter the Great or Catherine II--have either of them been canonized? No - but this was a memorial service (moleben) for all the tsars and tsarinas. Catherine II was mentioned for sure by the deacon in the first link - I think Peter the Great, too.
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Νὺξ ἦν πάντα ἐκεῖνα καὶ ὄναρ, καὶ ἡμέρας γενομένης ἠφανίσθη. Ἄνθη ἦν ἐαρινὰ, καὶ παρελθόντος τοῦ ἔαρος ἅπαντα κατεμαράνθη· πομφόλυγες ἦσαν, καὶ διεῤῥάγησαν.
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2013, 04:45:49 PM » |
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Funny, I was just reflecting yesterday how next year will be a century after WWI.
Last month has been the anniversary of the the Edict of Milan in 313 - 1700 years of Christian freedom (in Europe, at least; with some interruptions in the past century).
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Νὺξ ἦν πάντα ἐκεῖνα καὶ ὄναρ, καὶ ἡμέρας γενομένης ἠφανίσθη. Ἄνθη ἦν ἐαρινὰ, καὶ παρελθόντος τοῦ ἔαρος ἅπαντα κατεμαράνθη· πομφόλυγες ἦσαν, καὶ διεῤῥάγησαν.
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I do not understand why to celebrate the jubilee of a family that fought with the Church so harsh? Have they forgotten about Peter the Great, about Catherine II?
That I don't know about. I guess you'd have to ask the Russian Orthodox Church. I don't think, though, that yesterday was an anniversary pertaining to either Peter the Great or Catherine II--have either of them been canonized? No - but this was a memorial service (moleben) for all the tsars and tsarinas. Catherine II was mentioned for sure by the deacon in the first link - I think Peter the Great, too. There ya go  . Thanks! (I don't have access to youtube on this computer.)
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2013, 05:44:22 PM » |
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What kind of a ceremony is this, by the way? It would seem to me that a commemoration of a royal family's rein would include "Many Years" for them, but in this case, they are not reining. Of what do the prayers ask? Or is it a memorial service for the departed? (I don't understand Church Slavonic.)
It appears to be a Panachida or Trisagion to the Greek. I couldn't help but chuckle to myself as the Protodeacon read the names of the departed royals in the Litany for the deceased. It reminded me the "Zadushno Subbotas" (All-Souls' Saturdays) of my childhood and the seemingly endless petitions by the priest in Slavonic, family by family, with repeated names by name from generations to generation. So, in the end we all stand the same before God. Saint or sinner, rich or poor, king or begger - just as St. John of Damascus observed so long,long ago.
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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2013, 02:59:01 AM » |
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What kind of a ceremony is this, by the way? It would seem to me that a commemoration of a royal family's rein would include "Many Years" for them, but in this case, they are not reining. Of what do the prayers ask? Or is it a memorial service for the departed? (I don't understand Church Slavonic.)
It appears to be a Panachida or Trisagion to the Greek. I couldn't help but chuckle to myself as the Protodeacon read the names of the departed royals in the Litany for the deceased. It reminded me the "Zadushno Subbotas" (All-Souls' Saturdays) of my childhood and the seemingly endless petitions by the priest in Slavonic, family by family, with repeated names by name from generations to generation. So, in the end we all stand the same before God. Saint or sinner, rich or poor, king or begger - just as St. John of Damascus observed so long,long ago. I would nominate this for POM my friend if I hadn't done one already for you!
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