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Titles of RC and EO hierarchs
« on: January 11, 2005, 04:52:47 AM »
Thought that this forum would be the best place to post this question:

How do Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholics address their hierarchs ( Pope [RC], Patriarchs, Metropolitans, Bishops, Priests) and what are their official titles ?

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Re: Titles of RC and EO hierarchs
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2005, 07:02:29 AM »
RC: The Pope is adressed "Your Holiness", Bishops "Your Excellency" Priests "Father". In the US "Monsignor" is only used for priests who hold that title; in some parts of Europe Monsignor is also used for bishops, cardinals and abbots. In the US RC priests and bishops are frequently adressed as "Tim" or "Ricky" etc w/o any honorific what so ever.

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Re: Titles of RC and EO hierarchs
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2005, 11:26:52 AM »
The titles of my bishops are given on this page. Also, in addition to the good link Crucifer gave, this one (written by Bp. Tikhon of the OCA) might also be helpful.
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Re: Titles of RC and EO hierarchs
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2005, 01:09:57 PM »
In the US RC priests and bishops are frequently adressed as "Tim" or "Ricky" etc w/o any honorific what so ever.

Wow, I have never seen that.  It was always "Fr. Tim" or "Fr. Ricky" here...
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Re: Titles of RC and EO hierarchs
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2005, 01:30:19 PM »
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In the US RC priests and bishops are frequently adressed as "Tim" or "Ricky" etc w/o any honorific what so ever.

yep, i've seen this, not in my own parish growing up, but among my RC friends at school who talk of their priests back home.
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Re: Titles of RC and EO hierarchs
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2005, 02:12:26 PM »


Wow, I have never seen that. It was always "Fr. Tim" or "Fr. Ricky" here...

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Re: Titles of RC and EO hierarchs
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2005, 03:13:29 PM »
LOL, that's ridiculous! 
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Re: Titles of RC and EO hierarchs
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2005, 03:23:13 PM »
Frequently?  Isn't that a bit strong?  I've been a Roman Catholic all of my life (until recently) and have lived in several different dioceses (liberal to conservative) and never heard priests referred to without the honorofic title at all, let alone "frequently." 

Even at the most liberal, whacko parish I've ever attended, the priest was called "Fr."   


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Re: Titles of RC and EO hierarchs
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2005, 04:03:23 PM »
This is true in my experience as well. Most RC priests I have known wanted to be addressed as Fr. "last name". A few would even get offended if you called them Father Tom or Father Bob and not by their last name.

Frequently? Isn't that a bit strong? I've been a Roman Catholic all of my life (until recently) and have lived in several different dioceses (liberal to conservative) and never heard priests referred to without the honorofic title at all, let alone "frequently."

Even at the most liberal, whacko parish I've ever attended, the priest was called "Fr."



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Re: Titles of RC and EO hierarchs
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2005, 09:18:37 PM »
Thanks for all who responded. Really appreciated.
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Re: Titles of RC and EO hierarchs
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2005, 09:30:30 PM »
Frequently? Isn't that a bit strong? I've been a Roman Catholic all of my life (until recently) and have lived in several different dioceses (liberal to conservative) and never heard priests referred to without the honorofic title at all, let alone "frequently."

Even at the most liberal, whacko parish I've ever attended, the priest was called "Fr."



Come to North Carolina :) there you will see what I am talking about. It's not pervasive but it is there.

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