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« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2013, 01:42:30 PM »

I believe it's basically he's giving a presentation.  I mean he has a lot of video edits, cuts, graphics, and one special effect at least at the beginning (cross sparkles).

I'm sure he's going off a script... Far more than a vblog.   I think he does sound salesman ish or like a teacher on a presentation.
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« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2013, 01:48:52 PM »

he talks (and emotes) like a salesman.

I think he does sound salesman ish or like a teacher on a presentation.

How dare you!  I have not heard a voice so wonderful since Kenneth Starr.
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« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2013, 01:52:40 PM »

I believe it's basically he's giving a presentation.  I mean he has a lot of video edits, cuts, graphics, and one special effect at least at the beginning (cross sparkles).

I'm sure he's going off a script... Far more than a vblog.   I think he does sound salesman ish or like a teacher on a presentation.

It's all very goyishe kop and schlock. But the Hanukkah decorations I saw at Bed, Bath, and Beyond were as well. Maybe Judaism is truly gone.
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« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2013, 02:47:35 PM »

It's very much presentation (being a former salesman and all). His normal voice is much more subdued and contains nowhere near the number of pauses in the video.

On a side note, did anyone know Br. Nathanael was once part of the late-1960's band, Rebecca and the Sunnybrook Farmers (no, I am not joking) :  http://youtu.be/Us7iCKiXZ_o
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« Reply #49 on: February 07, 2013, 06:45:08 PM »

Who is his abbot ?.
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« Reply #50 on: February 07, 2013, 06:48:51 PM »

In the last few months I've started viewing the videos of Brother Nathaniel Kapner.I realize that he is a controversial figure, and that he also claims to be an Orthodox brother ( ROCOT I heard).  Is this true?  Does ROCOR actually sanction such afigure  controversial as him.in their monastic ranks?  Or is he more an independent monk?

No we don't and that's official. Met. Hilarion visited our Church  last year and I spent some time with him. I brought up Br. Nathanial and he spoke about him with me. He confirmed that he is not in any way a member of Rocor..
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« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2013, 06:53:19 PM »

"Novice monk" is an oxymoron.

... and real novice monks don't become mouthpieces for their pet causes, but work at attaining a spirit of prayer and humility.  police

Met. Hilarion emphasized to me several times that Br. Nathaniel is only a novice.
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« Reply #52 on: February 07, 2013, 07:33:42 PM »

In the last few months I've started viewing the videos of Brother Nathaniel Kapner.I realize that he is a controversial figure, and that he also claims to be an Orthodox brother ( ROCOT I heard).  Is this true?  Does ROCOR actually sanction such afigure  controversial as him.in their monastic ranks?  Or is he more an independent monk?

No we don't and that's official. Met. Hilarion visited our Church  last year and I spent some time with him. I brought up Br. Nathanial and he spoke about him with me. He confirmed that he is not in any way a member of Rocor..

What time last year? Because Vladyka Jerome was confirming back in November that Br. Nathanael has made the ROCOR Synod church in New York his place of attendance. That was in the context of the accepted statement that Br. Nathanael is with ROCOR. Presumably all he does, is with the blessing of his canonical abbot who is not ROCOR. He is most unusual but also loved by many, not as extreme in person as he can come off in the videos, and even non-Orthodox people really appreciate his efforts and goodwill and encouragement and cheer.

And he basically speaks truth to authority, although I think he needs to refine his comments about "Jews" to clarify the difference between the zionist Jews in high positions who are intent on a path of great harm and destruction (and are worthy of the general moniker "antichrist") and ordinary Jews, who are not the antichrist. By lumping in the latter with the former, he very much opens himself to charges of antisemitism. Of course, others do this sort of "shorthand" as well. As a Russian priest pointed out, Romney said Russia was America's greatest enemy, but he was probably talking about Putin and not about "my grandmother." (Please note this is not political commentary, but an illustration of a communication principle--that discourse can clamber broadly when the intent is actually narrow.)
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« Reply #53 on: February 07, 2013, 09:30:46 PM »

I cringe when someone calls him a monk. Do you call acolytes blessed to do subdeaconing "bishops"?
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« Reply #54 on: February 07, 2013, 10:00:25 PM »

In the last few months I've started viewing the videos of Brother Nathaniel Kapner.I realize that he is a controversial figure, and that he also claims to be an Orthodox brother ( ROCOT I heard).  Is this true?  Does ROCOR actually sanction such afigure  controversial as him.in their monastic ranks?  Or is he more an independent monk?

No we don't and that's official. Met. Hilarion visited our Church  last year and I spent some time with him. I brought up Br. Nathanial and he spoke about him with me. He confirmed that he is not in any way a member of Rocor..

What time last year? Because Vladyka Jerome was confirming back in November that Br. Nathanael has made the ROCOR Synod church in New York his place of attendance. That was in the context of the accepted statement that Br. Nathanael is with ROCOR. Presumably all he does, is with the blessing of his canonical abbot who is not ROCOR. He is most unusual but also loved by many, not as extreme in person as he can come off in the videos, and even non-Orthodox people really appreciate his efforts and goodwill and encouragement and cheer.

And he basically speaks truth to authority, although I think he needs to refine his comments about "Jews" to clarify the difference between the zionist Jews in high positions who are intent on a path of great harm and destruction (and are worthy of the general moniker "antichrist") and ordinary Jews, who are not the antichrist. By lumping in the latter with the former, he very much opens himself to charges of antisemitism. Of course, others do this sort of "shorthand" as well. As a Russian priest pointed out, Romney said Russia was America's greatest enemy, but he was probably talking about Putin and not about "my grandmother." (Please note this is not political commentary, but an illustration of a communication principle--that discourse can clamber broadly when the intent is actually narrow.)

I dont remember the exact date. I will ask while in Church this weekend when he was here and let you know.

Met. Hilarion not only said that he is not a member of Rocor but that he had viciously attacked Rocor during the reunification with Moscow, excoriating Rocor on his web page. Met. said that eventually he recanted and sent an apology and took down all the attacks from his page. He emphasized that Nathaniel was only a Novice. His clear implication was that Nathaniel has no authority to speak for the Church.

IMHO a novice should be cleaning floors not promoting grandiose and wholly fallacious theories about how the World is run.
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« Reply #55 on: February 07, 2013, 10:15:18 PM »

Guys, it's Nathanael not Nathaniel. I am not typically one to point out such details, but establishing the correct spelling of his name should come prior to discussing the details of his personage.

I say this in good humor though. No offense meant to everyone on this thread.
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« Reply #56 on: February 07, 2013, 10:21:11 PM »

Guys, it's Nathanael not Nathaniel.

This is the same name.
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« Reply #57 on: February 07, 2013, 10:26:46 PM »

Correct. Novice Nathanael has no authority to speak for the Orthodox Church.

I find his analyses quite accurate, and data-based.

Y'all's mileage may vary. May and should!
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« Reply #58 on: February 07, 2013, 10:30:30 PM »

Guys, it's Nathanael not Nathaniel.

This is the same name.
Maybe when dealing with people whose names have been directly translated from another language. Maybe it's different elsewhere, but in the anglosphere we typically spell people's names the way they do.
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« Reply #59 on: February 07, 2013, 10:55:14 PM »

Guys, it's Nathanael not Nathaniel.

This is the same name.
Maybe when dealing with people whose names have been directly translated from another language. Maybe it's different elsewhere, but in the anglosphere we typically spell people's names the way they do.

Unfortunately.
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« Reply #60 on: February 08, 2013, 12:00:12 AM »

Correct. Novice Nathanael has no authority to speak for the Orthodox Church.

I find his analyses quite accurate, and data-based.

Y'all's mileage may vary. May and should!

Brother Nathanael is a vicious Anti-Semite and bigot. I would be terribly disappointed if I discovered a Priest that I was associated who thought highly of his ravings... Fortunately, the Orthodox Priesthood by overwhelming majority are men of good character and high intelligence.

I just went to his web site and this is the first video I clicked on. As you can see his Antisemitism has little to do with any semblance of Anti-Zionism but is rather the same old tired and discredited canard that the World is Run by a cabal of Jewish interests. No doubt he also has strong Anti-Zionist views. All people who are against Israel are not Anti-Semites. However, all Anti-Semites are also Anti-Israel. Such is the case with this evil person. He is a poor lost soul leading the naive and gullible into perdition.

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« Reply #61 on: February 08, 2013, 01:25:48 AM »

I am not endorsing Br. Nathanael's various presentations and messages. I don't have time to even go through them all, in large part because at my workplace it's not possible to access many sites, including Youtube and Facebook. (I use break time or sometimes time spent waiting for a call, to make responses on here.) I am alarmed by his rhetoric, in that I think a line should be drawn between virulently anti-Christian, anti-human, anti-God plutocrats who are often but not always Jewish (culturally Jewish), on the one hand, and on the other hand, ordinary men and women who happen to be Jewish. Of course, many public figures who have gained wide support in the U.S. (e.g.) often make the very same mistakes in expression, and people and the public give them a pass. So I sense a double standard there, and this makes my little indicator of "What's Fair" start whirring and flashing. But, no, I am not a proponent of Br. Nathanael's work, I'm rather agnostic regarding it.

That the world is run, in very large part, by a cabal of (non-religious / irreligious) Jewish interests, is something backed up by a preponderance of the evidence. It does rather seem to be "the elephant in the room." But I also fully respect the views of those who don't at all think so. They either have imbibed other data sets, or have arrived at conclusions through various reasonings and processes which I may not even understand. I don't think those who dissent from the satanic cabal paradigm are therefore less pious, or less good human beings. And I can always have gotten something wrong.

I would hope that the same tolerance would be found in all Orthodox Christians. I also believe that ultimate solutions are spiritual, not political. I also love and respect the Jewish people, for they are the kinsmen of our Lord and God and Saviour Jesus Christ!
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That the world is run, in very large part, by a cabal of (non-religious / irreligious) Jewish interests, is something backed up by a preponderance of the evidence. It does rather seem to be "the elephant in the room."

Last time I checked, Rupert Murdoch has no Jewish ancestry, nor has he ever identified himself as Jewish; William Randolph, the patriarch of the Hearst dynasty, was of Scottish Protestant stock.
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« Reply #63 on: February 08, 2013, 11:46:16 AM »

I am not endorsing Br. Nathanael's various presentations and messages. I don't have time to even go through them all, in large part because at my workplace it's not possible to access many sites, including Youtube and Facebook. (I use break time or sometimes time spent waiting for a call, to make responses on here.) I am alarmed by his rhetoric, in that I think a line should be drawn between virulently anti-Christian, anti-human, anti-God plutocrats who are often but not always Jewish (culturally Jewish), on the one hand, and on the other hand, ordinary men and women who happen to be Jewish. Of course, many public figures who have gained wide support in the U.S. (e.g.) often make the very same mistakes in expression, and people and the public give them a pass. So I sense a double standard there, and this makes my little indicator of "What's Fair" start whirring and flashing. But, no, I am not a proponent of Br. Nathanael's work, I'm rather agnostic regarding it.

That the world is run, in very large part, by a cabal of (non-religious / irreligious) Jewish interests, is something backed up by a preponderance of the evidence. It does rather seem to be "the elephant in the room." But I also fully respect the views of those who don't at all think so. They either have imbibed other data sets, or have arrived at conclusions through various reasonings and processes which I may not even understand. I don't think those who dissent from the satanic cabal paradigm are therefore less pious, or less good human beings. And I can always have gotten something wrong.

I would hope that the same tolerance would be found in all Orthodox Christians. I also believe that ultimate solutions are spiritual, not political. I also love and respect the Jewish people, for they are the kinsmen of our Lord and God and Saviour Jesus Christ!

Br. Nathanial's fundamental World View is exactly the same one developed some 70 plus years ago by Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party. In short, the World is run by an evil cabal of Jews. He has simply taken the same recipe and added current names and events to the mixture.

It's hard to imagine a political philosophy that has been more discredited. Just because an argument has internal logic does not mean it is true. The most insidious part of promoting such tripe is that it gets people looking in the wrong directions for political solutions. This was so destructive to the German People that it should give any serious person great pause before believing it. History forgotten is destined to be repeated and all that.

To then say that "Ordinary Jews" are fine folks but their Kinsman are responsible for the ills of the World is nonsense. Once again, it was the ordinary Jew who was slaughtered by people who bought into the exact same theories that Br. Nathaniel repeats today. "By their fruits you shall know them".. Nazi ideology and paranoid delusions about a Jewish Cabal nearly destroyed the World in my Parents generation. Extreme caution is advised if you find yourself starting to think Br. Nathaniel makes good sense. Cavet Emptor
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« Reply #64 on: February 08, 2013, 05:59:50 PM »

I think he might slightly have some mental problems. but maybe that is because i saw a video of him dancing like a crazy man on a street

is this what fool-for-christs supposed to be like? they make me squirmy. At least he is not naked like some others
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I think he might slightly have some mental problems. but maybe that is because i saw a video of him dancing like a crazy man on a street

is this what fool-for-christs supposed to be like? they make me squirmy. At least he is not naked like some others

Go back up a few posts and watch the You tube of him I posted where he suggests a Military Coup in the USA to overthrow all the Jews in power.

He bares his teeth at the end and comes very close to growling. I beleive this is a common sign of demonic possession.

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« Reply #66 on: February 08, 2013, 07:50:47 PM »

I am not endorsing Br. Nathanael's various presentations and messages. I don't have time to even go through them all, in large part because at my workplace it's not possible to access many sites, including Youtube and Facebook. (I use break time or sometimes time spent waiting for a call, to make responses on here.) I am alarmed by his rhetoric, in that I think a line should be drawn between virulently anti-Christian, anti-human, anti-God plutocrats who are often but not always Jewish (culturally Jewish), on the one hand, and on the other hand, ordinary men and women who happen to be Jewish. Of course, many public figures who have gained wide support in the U.S. (e.g.) often make the very same mistakes in expression, and people and the public give them a pass. So I sense a double standard there, and this makes my little indicator of "What's Fair" start whirring and flashing. But, no, I am not a proponent of Br. Nathanael's work, I'm rather agnostic regarding it.

That the world is run, in very large part, by a cabal of (non-religious / irreligious) Jewish interests, is something backed up by a preponderance of the evidence. It does rather seem to be "the elephant in the room." But I also fully respect the views of those who don't at all think so. They either have imbibed other data sets, or have arrived at conclusions through various reasonings and processes which I may not even understand. I don't think those who dissent from the satanic cabal paradigm are therefore less pious, or less good human beings. And I can always have gotten something wrong.

I would hope that the same tolerance would be found in all Orthodox Christians. I also believe that ultimate solutions are spiritual, not political. I also love and respect the Jewish people, for they are the kinsmen of our Lord and God and Saviour Jesus Christ!

Br. Nathanial's fundamental World View is exactly the same one developed some 70 plus years ago by Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party. In short, the World is run by an evil cabal of Jews. He has simply taken the same recipe and added current names and events to the mixture.

It's hard to imagine a political philosophy that has been more discredited. Just because an argument has internal logic does not mean it is true. The most insidious part of promoting such tripe is that it gets people looking in the wrong directions for political solutions. This was so destructive to the German People that it should give any serious person great pause before believing it. History forgotten is destined to be repeated and all that.

To then say that "Ordinary Jews" are fine folks but their Kinsman are responsible for the ills of the World is nonsense. Once again, it was the ordinary Jew who was slaughtered by people who bought into the exact same theories that Br. Nathaniel repeats today. "By their fruits you shall know them".. Nazi ideology and paranoid delusions about a Jewish Cabal nearly destroyed the World in my Parents generation. Extreme caution is advised if you find yourself starting to think Br. Nathaniel makes good sense. Cavet Emptor

^^^^  This is actually not entirely true.  Hitler did not speak of the common Jews as he does.  If you want to know where some of Hitler got his symbol, and occult works - ask the Theosophy person.
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« Reply #67 on: February 08, 2013, 07:51:52 PM »

I think he might slightly have some mental problems. but maybe that is because i saw a video of him dancing like a crazy man on a street

is this what fool-for-christs supposed to be like? they make me squirmy. At least he is not naked like some others

Go back up a few posts and watch the You tube of him I posted where he suggests a Military Coup in the USA to overthrow all the Jews in power.

He bares his teeth at the end and comes very close to growling. I beleive this is a common sign of demonic possession.

Actually he asks "will it take a military coup".   He doesn't suggest it.
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« Reply #68 on: February 08, 2013, 07:57:33 PM »

I am not endorsing Br. Nathanael's various presentations and messages. I don't have time to even go through them all, in large part because at my workplace it's not possible to access many sites, including Youtube and Facebook. (I use break time or sometimes time spent waiting for a call, to make responses on here.) I am alarmed by his rhetoric, in that I think a line should be drawn between virulently anti-Christian, anti-human, anti-God plutocrats who are often but not always Jewish (culturally Jewish), on the one hand, and on the other hand, ordinary men and women who happen to be Jewish. Of course, many public figures who have gained wide support in the U.S. (e.g.) often make the very same mistakes in expression, and people and the public give them a pass. So I sense a double standard there, and this makes my little indicator of "What's Fair" start whirring and flashing. But, no, I am not a proponent of Br. Nathanael's work, I'm rather agnostic regarding it.

That the world is run, in very large part, by a cabal of (non-religious / irreligious) Jewish interests, is something backed up by a preponderance of the evidence. It does rather seem to be "the elephant in the room." But I also fully respect the views of those who don't at all think so. They either have imbibed other data sets, or have arrived at conclusions through various reasonings and processes which I may not even understand. I don't think those who dissent from the satanic cabal paradigm are therefore less pious, or less good human beings. And I can always have gotten something wrong.

I would hope that the same tolerance would be found in all Orthodox Christians. I also believe that ultimate solutions are spiritual, not political. I also love and respect the Jewish people, for they are the kinsmen of our Lord and God and Saviour Jesus Christ!

I do endorse a lot of his videos, not all of them.  I find them very fact based and well researched.  People are all getting up tight because here is an EO monk speaking about real issues.  They'd rather him be beat down by an abbot and reduced to sweeping floors. ("Know your place peasant!!!")  People like weakling Christians, not ones strong enough to speak up, as our Savior did and encouraged us to mentor.  I give a lot of props to him.  I see strong faith in him.   He's brave, I think he speaks well, and articulates his facts well.  I have no idea why people want to see a wimpy monk ordered back to his cell.   He's also a great mouthpiece to bring Jews to Christianity by his own testimony.
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« Reply #69 on: February 08, 2013, 08:00:53 PM »

Yeah, why would a monk be meek, reticent, and obedient to someone?

Wait, wut?  Wink
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I bought my mom a peppermint barsoap from some Orthodox monastery in the area for her birthday last year; those little knick-knacks that monks sell can make good witnessing tools.
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« Reply #71 on: February 08, 2013, 08:18:50 PM »

I am not endorsing Br. Nathanael's various presentations and messages. I don't have time to even go through them all, in large part because at my workplace it's not possible to access many sites, including Youtube and Facebook. (I use break time or sometimes time spent waiting for a call, to make responses on here.) I am alarmed by his rhetoric, in that I think a line should be drawn between virulently anti-Christian, anti-human, anti-God plutocrats who are often but not always Jewish (culturally Jewish), on the one hand, and on the other hand, ordinary men and women who happen to be Jewish. Of course, many public figures who have gained wide support in the U.S. (e.g.) often make the very same mistakes in expression, and people and the public give them a pass. So I sense a double standard there, and this makes my little indicator of "What's Fair" start whirring and flashing. But, no, I am not a proponent of Br. Nathanael's work, I'm rather agnostic regarding it.

That the world is run, in very large part, by a cabal of (non-religious / irreligious) Jewish interests, is something backed up by a preponderance of the evidence. It does rather seem to be "the elephant in the room." But I also fully respect the views of those who don't at all think so. They either have imbibed other data sets, or have arrived at conclusions through various reasonings and processes which I may not even understand. I don't think those who dissent from the satanic cabal paradigm are therefore less pious, or less good human beings. And I can always have gotten something wrong.

I would hope that the same tolerance would be found in all Orthodox Christians. I also believe that ultimate solutions are spiritual, not political. I also love and respect the Jewish people, for they are the kinsmen of our Lord and God and Saviour Jesus Christ!

Br. Nathanial's fundamental World View is exactly the same one developed some 70 plus years ago by Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party. In short, the World is run by an evil cabal of Jews. He has simply taken the same recipe and added current names and events to the mixture.

It's hard to imagine a political philosophy that has been more discredited. Just because an argument has internal logic does not mean it is true. The most insidious part of promoting such tripe is that it gets people looking in the wrong directions for political solutions. This was so destructive to the German People that it should give any serious person great pause before believing it. History forgotten is destined to be repeated and all that.

To then say that "Ordinary Jews" are fine folks but their Kinsman are responsible for the ills of the World is nonsense. Once again, it was the ordinary Jew who was slaughtered by people who bought into the exact same theories that Br. Nathaniel repeats today. "By their fruits you shall know them".. Nazi ideology and paranoid delusions about a Jewish Cabal nearly destroyed the World in my Parents generation. Extreme caution is advised if you find yourself starting to think Br. Nathaniel makes good sense. Cavet Emptor

^^^^  This is actually not entirely true.  Hitler did not speak of the common Jews as he does.  If you want to know where some of Hitler got his symbol, and occult works - ask the Theosophy person.

This is true. The part where Br. Nathanial blames an international Jewish Cabal for the ills of the World is the similar part.

All conspiratorial explanations of history and the workings of the World are always wrong...
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« Reply #73 on: February 08, 2013, 10:17:58 PM »

I think he might slightly have some mental problems. but maybe that is because i saw a video of him dancing like a crazy man on a street

is this what fool-for-christs supposed to be like? they make me squirmy. At least he is not naked like some others

Go back up a few posts and watch the You tube of him I posted where he suggests a Military Coup in the USA to overthrow all the Jews in power.

He bares his teeth at the end and comes very close to growling. I beleive this is a common sign of demonic possession.

Actually he asks "will it take a military coup".   He doesn't suggest it.

You are dealing with a raving liberal.  Since when have small details like the truth mattered.
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« Reply #74 on: February 08, 2013, 10:21:00 PM »

All conspiratorial explanations of history and the workings of the World are always wrong...
You are clearly a gullible person if you think that there has NEVER been any secret plots throughout history.
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« Reply #75 on: February 08, 2013, 10:41:18 PM »

I am not endorsing Br. Nathanael's various presentations and messages. I don't have time to even go through them all, in large part because at my workplace it's not possible to access many sites, including Youtube and Facebook. (I use break time or sometimes time spent waiting for a call, to make responses on here.) I am alarmed by his rhetoric, in that I think a line should be drawn between virulently anti-Christian, anti-human, anti-God plutocrats who are often but not always Jewish (culturally Jewish), on the one hand, and on the other hand, ordinary men and women who happen to be Jewish. Of course, many public figures who have gained wide support in the U.S. (e.g.) often make the very same mistakes in expression, and people and the public give them a pass. So I sense a double standard there, and this makes my little indicator of "What's Fair" start whirring and flashing. But, no, I am not a proponent of Br. Nathanael's work, I'm rather agnostic regarding it.

That the world is run, in very large part, by a cabal of (non-religious / irreligious) Jewish interests, is something backed up by a preponderance of the evidence. It does rather seem to be "the elephant in the room." But I also fully respect the views of those who don't at all think so. They either have imbibed other data sets, or have arrived at conclusions through various reasonings and processes which I may not even understand. I don't think those who dissent from the satanic cabal paradigm are therefore less pious, or less good human beings. And I can always have gotten something wrong.

I would hope that the same tolerance would be found in all Orthodox Christians. I also believe that ultimate solutions are spiritual, not political. I also love and respect the Jewish people, for they are the kinsmen of our Lord and God and Saviour Jesus Christ!

I do endorse a lot of his videos, not all of them.  I find them very fact based and well researched.  People are all getting up tight because here is an EO monk speaking about real issues.  They'd rather him be beat down by an abbot and reduced to sweeping floors. ("Know your place peasant!!!")  People like weakling Christians, not ones strong enough to speak up, as our Savior did and encouraged us to mentor.  I give a lot of props to him.  I see strong faith in him.   He's brave, I think he speaks well, and articulates his facts well.  I have no idea why people want to see a wimpy monk ordered back to his cell.   He's also a great mouthpiece to bring Jews to Christianity by his own testimony.

I'll write this for the 5th time or so: He is not an EO monk. He might be a monk of your Anabaptist religion, you can take him and make him even a bishop, but do not insult the Church that it allowed him to become a monk.
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« Reply #76 on: February 08, 2013, 11:43:51 PM »

Conspiracy theories are like a modern version of gnosticism.
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« Reply #77 on: February 09, 2013, 12:21:26 AM »

I think he might slightly have some mental problems. but maybe that is because i saw a video of him dancing like a crazy man on a street

is this what fool-for-christs supposed to be like? they make me squirmy. At least he is not naked like some others

Go back up a few posts and watch the You tube of him I posted where he suggests a Military Coup in the USA to overthrow all the Jews in power.

He bares his teeth at the end and comes very close to growling. I beleive this is a common sign of demonic possession.

Actually he asks "will it take a military coup".   He doesn't suggest it.

You are dealing with a raving liberal.  Since when have small details like the truth mattered.

Ummm,, He said a coup was not preferable but it may come to it. The whole video is about how things are so bad the only alternative may be a military takeover...

But if you're already a raving extremest you may not notice that this guy is off his rocker.

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« Reply #78 on: February 09, 2013, 12:25:10 AM »

I am not endorsing Br. Nathanael's various presentations and messages. I don't have time to even go through them all, in large part because at my workplace it's not possible to access many sites, including Youtube and Facebook. (I use break time or sometimes time spent waiting for a call, to make responses on here.) I am alarmed by his rhetoric, in that I think a line should be drawn between virulently anti-Christian, anti-human, anti-God plutocrats who are often but not always Jewish (culturally Jewish), on the one hand, and on the other hand, ordinary men and women who happen to be Jewish. Of course, many public figures who have gained wide support in the U.S. (e.g.) often make the very same mistakes in expression, and people and the public give them a pass. So I sense a double standard there, and this makes my little indicator of "What's Fair" start whirring and flashing. But, no, I am not a proponent of Br. Nathanael's work, I'm rather agnostic regarding it.

That the world is run, in very large part, by a cabal of (non-religious / irreligious) Jewish interests, is something backed up by a preponderance of the evidence. It does rather seem to be "the elephant in the room." But I also fully respect the views of those who don't at all think so. They either have imbibed other data sets, or have arrived at conclusions through various reasonings and processes which I may not even understand. I don't think those who dissent from the satanic cabal paradigm are therefore less pious, or less good human beings. And I can always have gotten something wrong.

I would hope that the same tolerance would be found in all Orthodox Christians. I also believe that ultimate solutions are spiritual, not political. I also love and respect the Jewish people, for they are the kinsmen of our Lord and God and Saviour Jesus Christ!

I do endorse a lot of his videos, not all of them.  I find them very fact based and well researched.  People are all getting up tight because here is an EO monk speaking about real issues.  They'd rather him be beat down by an abbot and reduced to sweeping floors. ("Know your place peasant!!!")  People like weakling Christians, not ones strong enough to speak up, as our Savior did and encouraged us to mentor.  I give a lot of props to him.  I see strong faith in him.   He's brave, I think he speaks well, and articulates his facts well.  I have no idea why people want to see a wimpy monk ordered back to his cell.   He's also a great mouthpiece to bring Jews to Christianity by his own testimony.

I'll write this for the 5th time or so: He is not an EO monk. He might be a monk of your Anabaptist religion, you can take him and make him even a bishop, but do not insult the Church that it allowed him to become a monk.
I am not sure how that would be an insult. Far worse have taken up the habit throughout the course of history.
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« Reply #79 on: February 09, 2013, 12:36:03 AM »

All conspiratorial explanations of history and the workings of the World are always wrong...
You are clearly a gullible person if you think that there has NEVER been any secret plots throughout history.

That's not what I said. Try to focus.

A conspiratorial explanation of the great events of history and/or as an explanation of the State of current affairs is always false.


The Lydon Larouche "Movement" is a great example of this. They put forward one conspiracy after another. A British Cabal. a Masonic Cabal, the Trilateral Commission.. Cabal. Etc. Br. Nataniel is cut from the same cloth.

 



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« Reply #80 on: February 09, 2013, 12:48:49 AM »

All conspiratorial explanations of history and the workings of the World are always wrong...
You are clearly a gullible person if you think that there has NEVER been any secret plots throughout history.

That's not what I said. Try to focus.

A conspiratorial explanation of the great events of history and/or as an explanation of the State of current affairs is always false.


The Lydon Larouche "Movement" is a great example of this. They put forward one conspiracy after another. A British Cabal. a Masonic Cabal, the Trilateral Commission.. Cabal. Etc. Br. Nataniel is cut from the same cloth.

 





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« Reply #81 on: February 09, 2013, 12:49:27 AM »

All conspiratorial explanations of history and the workings of the World are always wrong...
You are clearly a gullible person if you think that there has NEVER been any secret plots throughout history.

That's not what I said. Try to focus.

A conspiratorial explanation of the great events of history and/or as an explanation of the State of current affairs is always false.
Actually, this view that conspiracies are ALWAYS false is exactly what I was referring to...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1APfv_GmtyE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVYN21_THpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDIFn8O2P9o
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« Reply #82 on: February 09, 2013, 12:58:35 AM »

All conspiratorial explanations of history and the workings of the World are always wrong...
You are clearly a gullible person if you think that there has NEVER been any secret plots throughout history.

That's not what I said. Try to focus.

A conspiratorial explanation of the great events of history and/or as an explanation of the State of current affairs is always false.
Actually, this view that conspiracies are ALWAYS false is exactly what I was referring to...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1APfv_GmtyE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVYN21_THpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDIFn8O2P9o


I know... I wouldn't be too proud if I were you.
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« Reply #83 on: February 09, 2013, 01:17:39 AM »

All conspiratorial explanations of history and the workings of the World are always wrong...
You are clearly a gullible person if you think that there has NEVER been any secret plots throughout history.

That's not what I said. Try to focus.

A conspiratorial explanation of the great events of history and/or as an explanation of the State of current affairs is always false.
Actually, this view that conspiracies are ALWAYS false is exactly what I was referring to...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1APfv_GmtyE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVYN21_THpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDIFn8O2P9o


I know... I wouldn't be too proud if I were you.
So, what are you denying, the existence of the evil in the Talmud (Matthew 23), the existence of the NWO (Psalm 2), the existence of the Zionist agenda (Revelation 3:9), or all of the above?
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« Reply #85 on: February 09, 2013, 02:39:05 AM »

Why is Kapner wearing these white gloves?
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« Reply #86 on: February 09, 2013, 12:12:02 PM »

It's above our pay grade to pass judgement on the spiritual state of the dear Brother. In general, Fools for Christ are good people, not hate filled bigots. If I had his ear, I would try to persuade him to submit to an exorcism.. maybe several
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« Reply #87 on: February 09, 2013, 12:47:34 PM »

All conspiratorial explanations of history and the workings of the World are always wrong...
You are clearly a gullible person if you think that there has NEVER been any secret plots throughout history.

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« Reply #88 on: February 09, 2013, 12:49:36 PM »

Conspiracy theories are like a modern version of gnosticism.

Dude, I like it.

Change that.

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« Reply #89 on: February 09, 2013, 02:26:59 PM »

is this what fool-for-christs supposed to be like? At least he is not naked like some others

And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia;

Not sure how I feel about this. Perhaps his top was naked? Was he in Ethiopia? It snows in Palestine.
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