I do not understand why you keep harping about 19th century Darwinism. Perhaps you should leave it to the 21st century scientists to deal with the orthodox Darwinsists that remain. I am pretty sure your attitude would be counter productive to the task.
I don't know any other Darwinism and that's why. But all other theories of evolution (random changes leading to new species formation) will be wrong. You have to name concrete theory to discuss it further.
From my perspective, HeLa cells are not a new species since, at least on a microscopic level, the original genetic information remains intact (although it may not in reality and I would change my answer if so). Your quote above is the reason why I chose HeLa cells in regard to what is a species, yet you made the statement in the above quote without seeing it. Chromosome 3 no longer exists in HeLa cells. This is an example of what can happen if a virus gets into the germ line. Doesn't this show you how loss of a chromosome can occur circa 1950? I plan to respond to your prior post that responds to mine more fully after Easter
What is the point of you argument? Yes, chromosomes can change in the cell. Then what? Did this cell line appear by itself or was it intelligently selected? Of course it's intelligently selected cell lines and humans can select more. I did not doubt that, did I? This cell line is artificially selected. It can't exist if not artificially supported. It can't give you any organism.
So we should ditch our theories of chemical kinetics because they presuppose random collisions that determine the outcome of a reaction?
You are putting your words in my mouth. I did not argue theories can't predict. Theories may predict but it doesn't mean the can predict because they are right. Besides I've mentioned some theories have pragmatic significance. If they work use it. You don't need to go beyond that and say since they work the premises underling it must be wright. Hopefully I'm clear in here. Another question is how it can be so? That's whole new area of speculations.chrevbel
All of science is wrong? And has nothing to do with reality? Nothing?
Is this a tenet of the Orthodox Church?
Yes, ultimately all of them are wrong. This does not mean one should not learn science. I've read science books and I still read them. I get information and see how wrong it is. More I read more I get it. So, if you think I advertise total ignorance I want to assure you that's not right at all. I'd love children to know lots of things in science and be thought lots of things but I'd love also to see it is not thought dogmatically like it's done everywhere now.
I don't know if it's a tenet of Orthodox Church. But from what I've read everything is mystery, whole creation is mystery. Which means in the end we will know nothing through the logical inquiry but we can know God's creation by Revelation through the Grace of the Lord.Dimitrios-Georgios
Really? How about not taking any medicine next time you're sick, since science is wrong? If antibiotics, painkillers and other drugs have nothing to do with reality whatsoever, why don't you stick to your words and refuse them the next time you're sick, huh?
Even if I took medicine for something how does it prove that science is right? Does my lack of faith prove science is right? There are many people who have stronger faith then I do and miracles happen because of their faith. I know hundreds of these. How does it fit within science that a patient with chronic hepatitis C causing cirrhosis with esophageal varices and deadly gastrointestinal bleeds whom no doctor can cure, who was given prognosis to die in weeks, is brought to a Great Saints tomb on a gurney, is laid down on it and within minutes he can get up and walk and within days and weeks he's completely cured of the problem? Where's is you science here? How can you explain it though science? You can't. The only thing you can do is deny it. And I've seen Orthodox people who ridicule and deny miracles. I'm not saying you are the one but there are many. They even don't believe the Lord's words that if we had little faith we could move mountains. This is not some figurative statement. This is completely true. How can science explain this miracles? I don't take much medicine though. Rarely I will take one. Nobody and Nothing can take care of me except All Glorious and All merciful God if I had a little faith. I don't have it that much though.
Glory to the Father, to the Lord Jesus Christ Son of God and Glory to the Holy Spirit. The Creation belongs to Trinity and we Orthodox people should rightly glorify Him