but if we're really going to devolve into this nonsense, how about just get back to me when the Church drops its literal interpretation of Genesis, which you're sure it will. we can talk then.
I didn't know the church preached a literal interpretation of genesis...that's new to me.
dude, come on. thats what this entire thread has been about. i and others have provided countless examples of the Chuch's understanding of Genesis through Scriptures, Patristics, canons, calendars, etc etc.
even Theokritoff, an evolutionist, in his critique of Fr. Seraphim's book, acknowledged that Fr. Seraphim is reading the Fathers correctly, and that if we were to follow the Fathers we would have to interpret Genesis literally. he says:
Fr Seraphim is commendably honest in recognizing that if one believes, as he does, that we must read Genesis exactly as the Fathers did, one is then committed to a thorough-going young earth creationism, however much contrary evidence there may appear to be.
he also acknowledges that Fr. Seraphim does not
rely on proof-texting to come to this conclusion, although so many are wont to charge Creationists of doing that. he says:
The selection from patristic commentaries on the creation and fall stories contains much valuable material; Fr Seraphim is right to stress the importance of appreciating the broad picture of what the Fathers are trying to say, rather than taking excerpts out of context.
if anyone has read the Mountain of Silence, the author also acknowledges in that work that the Church has traditionally interpreted Genesis literally. i thought i had the reference for that, but i can't find it.
and even since Darwin, our Saints and holy elders have continued to intepret Genesis literally: St. John of Kronstadt, St. Barsanuphius of Optina, St. Nektarios, St. Justin Popovich, St. Nikolai Velimorovich, Fr. George Calciu, Elder Cleopa, Elder Joseph the Hesychast, Elder Ephraim, Elder Paisios, Fr. Philotheos Zervakos, Fr. Seraphim Rose, Elder Joseph of Vatopaidi (it was divinely revealed to him that Genesis is literal history), etc. etc. All these men who we recognize as holy, as bearers of the Tradition who beheld Christ in glory, all bear witness to the Church's literal understanding of Genesis. For the Fathers, allegory is not mutually exclusive with a literal interpretation, and allegory is never used to develop dogma anyways.
you might disagree with the Saints on this matter, but there's no denying that the Saints have uniformly taught this. Even evolutionists have admitted that the Church teaches this (Theokritoff, Minasoliman as well), they have just found ways to disagree.