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« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2013, 11:18:32 AM »

HM The Queen in her capacity as Queen of Australia acted there as such, and not as Queen of 'England'. Similarly when she acts in Canada she does so as Queen of Canada, acting with the advice of her Government there. She is Queen of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. If we are to debate conspiracy theories it might lend some credence if correct titles were used rather than made up ones.
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« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2013, 11:21:13 AM »


Not too long ago, the Queen of England dissolved the Canadian parliament for the third time in three years. In 1975 she removed Australia's Prime Minister from office. This is done, procedurally, through the monarch's "Governor-General."

Unfortunately, the British and Dutch royal families are involved in a lot of globalist activity, which aims to bring about a One World Government to prepare the way for the Antichrist to dominate the entire planet. I won't go into the moral turpitude issues with these families, because they are too shocking to write about in public. Anyone who cares to know, contact me privately.

Quite naïvely and innocently, many still respect the British and Dutch monarchs. I think the heart of these reverential persons is in the right place, but they simply don't have much information on how things work in this world.

Quite frankly, as soon as I see how seriously misinformed (or purposely deceptive) a writer is with the expression "Queen of England" I know the rest of the message is pure drivel.

"Moral turpitude issues"? Really? You mean like the sins of countless members of any community?

Just to add onto what you said.

There is no such thing as the "Queen of England", that Kingdom was merged with the Kingdom of Scotland in the early 1700s(1707 i believe) into the "Kingdom of Great Britain".

In addition, the Queen of Great Britain has no ability to control what a foreign country does. The Queen of Canada, however, has the ability to dissolve the Canadian Parliament. The Queen of Canada also has no way to interfere with the affairs of the Oz, however, the Queen of Australia can, which is a separate Kingdom.

All of the above are the same person, but different roles.
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« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2013, 11:38:22 AM »


There is no such thing as the "Queen of England", that Kingdom was merged with the Kingdom of Scotland in the early 1700s(1707 i believe) into the "Kingdom of Great Britain".

Close: the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and now the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

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In addition, the Queen of Great Britain has no ability to control what a foreign country does. The Queen of Canada, however, has the ability to dissolve the Canadian Parliament. The Queen of Canada also has no way to interfere with the affairs of the Oz, however, the Queen of Australia can, which is a separate Kingdom.

All of the above are the same person, but different roles.
Outside of the UK, "realm" is preferred to "kingdom" in actual usage. "The Kingdom of Canada" was rejected by our Fathers of Confederation to avoid irritating the "still millitarily active and looking for a fight" Yankees in the late 1860s. That's when the term "Dominion of Canada" came into being, with the term taken directly from Psalm 72:8 (KJV), which is also the source of our national motto "from sea to sea".
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« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2013, 03:05:40 PM »


There is no such thing as the "Queen of England", that Kingdom was merged with the Kingdom of Scotland in the early 1700s(1707 i believe) into the "Kingdom of Great Britain".

Close: the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and now the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

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In addition, the Queen of Great Britain has no ability to control what a foreign country does. The Queen of Canada, however, has the ability to dissolve the Canadian Parliament. The Queen of Canada also has no way to interfere with the affairs of the Oz, however, the Queen of Australia can, which is a separate Kingdom.

All of the above are the same person, but different roles.
Outside of the UK, "realm" is preferred to "kingdom" in actual usage. "The Kingdom of Canada" was rejected by our Fathers of Confederation to avoid irritating the "still millitarily active and looking for a fight" Yankees in the late 1860s. That's when the term "Dominion of Canada" came into being, with the term taken directly from Psalm 72:8 (KJV), which is also the source of our national motto "from sea to sea".

You are of course right, I erred based on the haste i was writing my post, as I had to rush off to work when i noticed the time, and didnt have time to think myself through
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« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2013, 03:15:28 PM »

HM The Queen in her capacity as Queen of Australia acted there as such, and not as Queen of 'England'. Similarly when she acts in Canada she does so as Queen of Canada, acting with the advice of her Government there. She is Queen of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. If we are to debate conspiracy theories it might lend some credence if correct titles were used rather than made up ones.
or simply refer to them by name; Beatrix van Orange, Elizabeth Windsor, Albert Grimaldi etc..
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« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2013, 03:23:06 PM »

What's so wrong with UK's monarchy? If anything, it is good because it gives the people a sense of unity--especially when Ireland is so chaotic--and feeds our western conception that Europe is like a Disney movie with castles, princesses and dragons.
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« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2013, 03:39:13 PM »

It was careless to say "Queen of England," but the point remains.

Avoiding intellectual discourse by labeling one's opponent a "conspiracy theorist" is the modern style. In former times it was "those Jews" or "that commoner" or you were a "heretic" (like Galileo) or a "partisan" or a "revolutionary in travel-stained clothing." Then, as now, it meant, "There's no sense debating, since I'm already right and it is beneath me even to engage with the one who disagrees with me."

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« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2013, 03:50:20 PM »

HM The Queen in her capacity as Queen of Australia acted there as such, and not as Queen of 'England'. Similarly when she acts in Canada she does so as Queen of Canada, acting with the advice of her Government there. She is Queen of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. If we are to debate conspiracy theories it might lend some credence if correct titles were used rather than made up ones.
or simply refer to them by name; Beatrix van Orange, Elizabeth Windsor, Albert Grimaldi etc..

Why would you hate our monarchies?
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« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2013, 03:52:33 PM »

HM The Queen in her capacity as Queen of Australia acted there as such, and not as Queen of 'England'. Similarly when she acts in Canada she does so as Queen of Canada, acting with the advice of her Government there. She is Queen of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. If we are to debate conspiracy theories it might lend some credence if correct titles were used rather than made up ones.
or simply refer to them by name; Beatrix van Orange, Elizabeth Windsor, Albert Grimaldi etc..

Why would you hate our monarchies?

It's not hate. It really doesn't rise to that level of importance. It's more akin to embarrassed laughter.
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« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2013, 05:34:00 PM »

HM The Queen in her capacity as Queen of Australia acted there as such, and not as Queen of 'England'. Similarly when she acts in Canada she does so as Queen of Canada, acting with the advice of her Government there. She is Queen of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. If we are to debate conspiracy theories it might lend some credence if correct titles were used rather than made up ones.
or simply refer to them by name; Beatrix van Orange, Elizabeth Windsor, Albert Grimaldi etc..

Why would you hate our monarchies?

It's not hate. It really doesn't rise to that level of importance. It's more akin to embarrassed laughter.
Hey, you have your system and we have ours.

We really shouldn't get offended though. After all, we laugh at your political system all the time.
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« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2013, 06:16:22 PM »

HM The Queen in her capacity as Queen of Australia acted there as such, and not as Queen of 'England'. Similarly when she acts in Canada she does so as Queen of Canada, acting with the advice of her Government there. She is Queen of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. If we are to debate conspiracy theories it might lend some credence if correct titles were used rather than made up ones.
or simply refer to them by name; Beatrix van Orange, Elizabeth Windsor, Albert Grimaldi etc..

Why would you hate our monarchies?

It's not hate. It really doesn't rise to that level of importance. It's more akin to embarrassed laughter.
Hey, you have your system and we have ours.

We really shouldn't get offended though. After all, we laugh at your political system all the time.

Exactly!

EDIT: After all what greater gift can you give to others than laughing at them so that they can learn to laugh at themselves?
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« Reply #56 on: January 29, 2013, 06:25:29 PM »

HM The Queen in her capacity as Queen of Australia acted there as such, and not as Queen of 'England'. Similarly when she acts in Canada she does so as Queen of Canada, acting with the advice of her Government there. She is Queen of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. If we are to debate conspiracy theories it might lend some credence if correct titles were used rather than made up ones.
or simply refer to them by name; Beatrix van Orange, Elizabeth Windsor, Albert Grimaldi etc..

Why would you hate our monarchies?

It's not hate. It really doesn't rise to that level of importance. It's more akin to embarrassed laughter.
Hey, you have your system and we have ours.

We really shouldn't get offended though. After all, we laugh at your political system all the time.

Exactly!

EDIT: After all what greater gift can you give to others than laughing at them so that they can learn to laugh at themselves?

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« Reply #57 on: January 29, 2013, 06:27:38 PM »

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« Reply #58 on: January 30, 2013, 02:07:07 PM »

It's all about having money flow from other people's purses, into your own. And despite the appearances of "impotent monarchy," these monarchs do wield power due to their incredible wealth and involvement with the satanic One World Government cartel.

Not too long ago, the Queen of England dissolved the Canadian parliament for the third time in three years. In 1975 she removed Australia's Prime Minister from office. This is done, procedurally, through the monarch's "Governor-General."

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« Reply #59 on: January 30, 2013, 05:10:01 PM »

That's disrespectful of the Queen.
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« Reply #60 on: January 30, 2013, 06:14:38 PM »

That's disrespectful of the Queen.

As is the habit of spreading malicious gossip about her and her family. (Whether true or not is not the point: gossip is gossip.)

Unfortunately, the British and Dutch royal families are involved in a lot of globalist activity, which aims to bring about a One World Government to prepare the way for the Antichrist to dominate the entire planet. I won't go into the moral turpitude issues with these families, because they are too shocking to write about in public. Anyone who cares to know, contact me privately.
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« Reply #61 on: January 30, 2013, 06:31:19 PM »

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« Reply #62 on: January 30, 2013, 06:51:37 PM »

I work in Family Protective Services to protect children from abuse and neglect.

The royal family are in the public eye.

It is not unimportant for people to know that if they allow their children contact with royal circles, their closest advisors and confidantes and/or royals themselves, their children's safety will be gravely endangered.

It is not schadenfreude for the problems of the British royal family, or the joy of gossip, but informing people that these are criminal elements, so that the existence of a high office will not induce naïve trust. And I don't mind repeating this message whenever a halfway-germane topic comes up.

I do not judge the souls of any individual members of the British royal family, nor think myself any better off spiritually, as if I'm something.

By the way, I would do the same in the case of a discussion involving any specific pedophile Roman Catholic priest. And would, by so doing, intend no disrespect to the office of the (Catholic?) priesthood.

Clear?
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« Reply #63 on: January 30, 2013, 07:10:35 PM »

HM The Queen in her capacity as Queen of Australia acted there as such, and not as Queen of 'England'. Similarly when she acts in Canada she does so as Queen of Canada, acting with the advice of her Government there. She is Queen of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. If we are to debate conspiracy theories it might lend some credence if correct titles were used rather than made up ones.
or simply refer to them by name; Beatrix van Orange, Elizabeth Windsor, Albert Grimaldi etc..

Why would you hate our monarchies?

It's not hate. It really doesn't rise to that level of importance. It's more akin to embarrassed laughter.
LOL. The republics should talk.
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« Reply #64 on: January 30, 2013, 07:11:25 PM »

HM The Queen in her capacity as Queen of Australia acted there as such, and not as Queen of 'England'. Similarly when she acts in Canada she does so as Queen of Canada, acting with the advice of her Government there. She is Queen of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. If we are to debate conspiracy theories it might lend some credence if correct titles were used rather than made up ones.
or simply refer to them by name; Beatrix van Orange, Elizabeth Windsor, Albert Grimaldi etc..
not much for "Mr. President" I see.

And Her Majesty had no power to dissolve parliament as Elizabeth Windsor.  Only the Queen (or King) of Australia could do that.
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« Reply #65 on: January 30, 2013, 08:22:59 PM »

I work in Family Protective Services to protect children from abuse and neglect.

The royal family are in the public eye.

It is not unimportant for people to know that if they allow their children contact with royal circles, their closest advisors and confidantes and/or royals themselves, their children's safety will be gravely endangered.

It is not schadenfreude for the problems of the British royal family, or the joy of gossip, but informing people that these are criminal elements, so that the existence of a high office will not induce naïve trust. And I don't mind repeating this message whenever a halfway-germane topic comes up.



I do not judge the souls of any individual members of the British royal family, nor think myself any better off spiritually, as if I'm something.

By the way, I would do the same in the case of a discussion involving any specific pedophile Roman Catholic priest. And would, by so doing, intend no disrespect to the office of the (Catholic?) priesthood.



Clear?

I too, before retiring, have worked on child and vulnerable adult protection issues. You hint at there being 'risk factors' around a vaguely defined and wide group or groups. In the field of child you have a duty to report these concerns and any supporting facts to the appropriate Safeguarding Children panel. Why are you as a professional and a clergyman putting out vaguely worded 'warnings' that are totally ineffective in safeguarding children and casting a slur upon a whole range of folk. No one, high born or low, surely deserves to be defamed in such a manner?

If you have sufficient real grounds for concern act, or if not desist, please.
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« Reply #66 on: January 30, 2013, 08:37:34 PM »

I work in Family Protective Services to protect children from abuse and neglect.

The royal family are in the public eye.

It is not unimportant for people to know that if they allow their children contact with royal circles, their closest advisors and confidantes and/or royals themselves, their children's safety will be gravely endangered.

It is not schadenfreude for the problems of the British royal family, or the joy of gossip, but informing people that these are criminal elements, so that the existence of a high office will not induce naïve trust. And I don't mind repeating this message whenever a halfway-germane topic comes up.

I do not judge the souls of any individual members of the British royal family, nor think myself any better off spiritually, as if I'm something.

By the way, I would do the same in the case of a discussion involving any specific pedophile Roman Catholic priest. And would, by so doing, intend no disrespect to the office of the (Catholic?) priesthood.

Clear?

Yeah, but not about what you might think.
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