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Is there another world besides this? Where is it?
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2013, 07:34:04 PM » |
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Mars is about a hundred and fifty million miles away...
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2013, 08:54:49 PM » |
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Mars is about a hundred and fifty million miles away...
Nice trolling :/. How would you feel If someone laughed at all your spiritual seeking and troll you on every thread for it? Is this what Christ is all about? Is this what he would do.. I think the Mods should really step in on this. |
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2013, 09:17:37 PM » |
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What exactly do you mean with "another world"?
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2013, 09:22:16 PM » |
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There only is one world - the limits of our senses and our mind (spiritual intuition) divide it into 'seen' and 'unseen'.
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2013, 09:25:59 PM » |
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When you don't expl
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2013, 09:28:28 PM » |
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The multi-verse maybe, but, it's entirely untestable by science and thus little more than some astro-physical chatter.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2013, 09:49:17 PM » |
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The multi-verse maybe, but, it's entirely untestable by science and thus little more than some astro-physical chatter.
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2013, 11:02:47 PM » |
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Are you perhaps referring to what's commonly known as the afterlife?
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2013, 11:29:57 PM » |
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Are you perhaps referring to what's commonly known as the afterlife?
Or is he asking if there is life on another planet or planetary system similar to ours? |
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2013, 04:29:32 AM » |
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Are you perhaps referring to what's commonly known as the afterlife?
yes. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2013, 04:30:45 AM » |
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Are you perhaps referring to what's commonly known as the afterlife?
yes. Then in that case, I will answer your questions the best I can. 1 - Yes. 2 - I don't know. |
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2013, 04:47:13 AM » |
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Is there another world besides this? Where is it?
Yes. Right here (but invisible to most). |
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If you will, you can become all flame.
Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
I'm not a witch.
Ἄνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Y dduw bo'r diolch.
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2013, 04:53:04 AM » |
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Is there another world besides this? Where is it?
Yes. Right here (but invisible to most). I mean heaven and earth.. Or you don't believe in the conscience of the soul during death? |
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2013, 05:38:34 AM » |
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With respect, I think that we should focus on the world in which we live. If we do right by this world, then the answer to whether or not there is another world will be sufficiently answered. "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2013, 05:43:34 AM » |
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With respect, I think that we should focus on the world in which we live. If we do right by this world, then the answer to whether or not there is another world will be sufficiently answered. "Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."
[St. Matthew 6:34] Selam Good answer! I like your answer much more than mine. |
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"Let it be understood that those who are not found living as He taught are not Christian- even though they profess with the lips the teaching of Christ." - Justin Martyr ( c.160 )
"we recognize that the war is ultimately spiritual rather than carnal." - Gebre Menfes Kidus
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2013, 10:48:50 AM » |
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Is there another world besides this? Where is it?
Yes. Right here (but invisible to most). I mean heaven and earth.. Or you don't believe in the conscience of the soul during death? Heaven is the presence of God, so to speak. That presence is right here, right now; but unseen/unfelt by most. After death, one may be able more fully to experience that presence. |
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If you will, you can become all flame.
Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
I'm not a witch.
Ἄνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Y dduw bo'r diolch.
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2013, 11:29:43 AM » |
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I mean heaven and earth.. Or you don't believe in the conscience of the soul during death?
Heaven could simply be a different dimension, which we can't fully perceive till we die. But to be honest, I don't know, because I haven't died yet.  |
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2013, 12:39:09 PM » |
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Is there another world besides this? Where is it?
Yes. Right here (but invisible to most). I mean heaven and earth.. Or you don't believe in the conscience of the soul during death? Heaven is the presence of God, so to speak. That presence is right here, right now; but unseen/unfelt by most. After death, one may be able more fully to experience that presence. What exactly is that? Is that an actual place or a state of being? |
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2013, 12:48:14 PM » |
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In my opinion it is another nature of living. It is a different dimension for us and cannot been understood by ourselves until our death. It is another form of existence, where people could be like angels and live without time and space.
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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2013, 12:57:37 PM » |
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In my opinion it is another nature of living. It is a different dimension for us and cannot been understood by ourselves until our death. It is another form of existence, where people could be like angels and live without time and space.
A different dimension to what? Is it a place in the Universe? How is this spiritual world suppose to look like? Do you have unicorns, orcs, hobbits, and other things like that in there? |
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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2013, 01:30:40 PM » |
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A different dimension to what? Is it a place in the Universe? How is this spiritual world suppose to look like? Do you have unicorns, orcs, hobbits, and other things like that in there?
We don't know, because nobody has been there and back again. |
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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2013, 01:47:48 PM » |
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A different dimension to what? Is it a place in the Universe? How is this spiritual world suppose to look like? Do you have unicorns, orcs, hobbits, and other things like that in there?
We don't know, because nobody has been there and back again. Not according to the Bible and Orthodoxy. Jesus has been there. Lazarus has been there(death). And a few others who have been resurrected by Christ were there also. |
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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2013, 01:52:15 PM » |
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A different dimension to what? Is it a place in the Universe? How is this spiritual world suppose to look like? Do you have unicorns, orcs, hobbits, and other things like that in there?
We don't know, because nobody has been there and back again. Not according to the Bible and Orthodoxy. Jesus has been there. Lazarus has been there(death). And a few others who have been resurrected by Christ were there also. And there are no records of what any of those said about where they had been. So... |
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« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2013, 01:53:52 PM » |
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Not according to the Bible and Orthodoxy. Jesus has been there. Lazarus has been there(death). And a few others who have been resurrected by Christ were there also.
Luke 16:31 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be convinced if some one should rise from the dead.' |
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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2013, 01:54:26 PM » |
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A different dimension to what? Is it a place in the Universe? How is this spiritual world suppose to look like? Do you have unicorns, orcs, hobbits, and other things like that in there?
We don't know, because nobody has been there and back again. Not according to the Bible and Orthodoxy. Jesus has been there. Lazarus has been there(death). And a few others who have been resurrected by Christ were there also. And there are no records of what any of those said about where they had been. So... But you can really tell that heaven and hell exist.. nice.. |
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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2013, 01:58:10 PM » |
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Not according to the Bible and Orthodoxy. Jesus has been there. Lazarus has been there(death). And a few others who have been resurrected by Christ were there also.
Luke 16:31 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be convinced if some one should rise from the dead.' Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. |
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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2013, 02:06:01 PM » |
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Not according to the Bible and Orthodoxy. Jesus has been there. Lazarus has been there(death). And a few others who have been resurrected by Christ were there also.
Luke 16:31 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be convinced if some one should rise from the dead.' Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. What exactly is the meaning of that quotation? God is apart of creation, the universe is creation. The state of the Kingdom of God is impossible to fully describe in human terms. Therefore, we use allegories and metaphores in order to explain it. |
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Matthew 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
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A different dimension to what? Is it a place in the Universe? How is this spiritual world suppose to look like? Do you have unicorns, orcs, hobbits, and other things like that in there?
We don't know, because nobody has been there and back again. Not according to the Bible and Orthodoxy. Jesus has been there. Lazarus has been there(death). And a few others who have been resurrected by Christ were there also. And there are no records of what any of those said about where they had been. So... But you can really tell that heaven and hell exist.. nice.. There are accounts of Jesus Christ talking at length about heaven and hell, and I believe them. Your point? |
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