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« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2013, 03:48:32 PM »
Wait, then why is Nat. Geo. offering $200 genetic tests that tell you what percentage of your DNA is neanderthal?
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« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2013, 04:02:01 PM »
Quote from: Maximum Bob on January 26, 2013, 03:48:32 PM
Wait, then why is Nat. Geo. offering $200 genetic tests that tell you what percentage of your DNA is neanderthal?

They do? If it is a curiosity of theirs, I shouldn't mind being given $200 to find out something I already know.
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« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2013, 04:16:45 PM »
Quote from: Romaios on January 26, 2013, 03:36:09 PM
(highly unlikely, given that Neanderthals would have looked at least as (un)attractive to our ancestors as their reconstructed portraits look to us)

Some guys aren't choosy about who they mate with...  angel
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« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2013, 04:21:45 PM »
Quote from: Romaios on January 26, 2013, 03:36:09 PM
Quote from: Wandering Sheep on January 24, 2013, 03:20:23 AM
Neanderthals seem to be simply a subset of Homo Sapiens. One definition of a "species" is the ability for two members of that species to breed and produce fertile offspring, who in turn will be able to create further fertile offspring. Given that the Neanderthals bred into Homo Sapiens on a very large scale, I think we can call Neanderthals just another kind of human.

This is completely wrong - genetic research proved that there was no interbreeding between Neanderthals and modern humans.
I think the newest research has questioned whether such interbreeding has occurred, not that it has completely disproven that such interbreeding did occur.
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« Reply #49 on: January 26, 2013, 04:24:02 PM »
Quote from: Asteriktos on January 26, 2013, 04:16:45 PM
Some guys aren't choosy about who they mate with...  angel

The Neanderthals, at least, must have been.  Grin

I can already picture a Neanderthal lady beating the lights out of a male Sapiens cousin for making indecent proposals...
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« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2013, 05:50:28 PM »
Quote from: Romaios on January 26, 2013, 04:24:02 PM
Quote from: Asteriktos on January 26, 2013, 04:16:45 PM
Some guys aren't choosy about who they mate with...  angel

The Neanderthals, at least, must have been.  Grin

I can already picture a Neanderthal lady beating the lights out of a male Sapiens cousin for making indecent proposals...
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Quote from: Romaios on January 26, 2013, 04:02:01 PM
Quote from: Maximum Bob on January 26, 2013, 03:48:32 PM
Wait, then why is Nat. Geo. offering $200 genetic tests that tell you what percentage of your DNA is neanderthal?

They do? If it is a curiosity of theirs, I shouldn't mind being given $200 to find out something I already know.
The link to get the test kit is below.
http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/ngs/browse/productDetail.jsp?productId=2001246&gsk&code=SR90002
In fairness they're testing for a lot more than that, human migration routes etc. but checking for the Neanderthal DNA is in mix. "•  Find out if you have Neanderthal or Denisovan ancestry."
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« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2013, 09:18:55 PM »
I get the feeling if they did clone one, which they could not completely without DNA from another species, they would not be as happy with the results as they think they would be.  It may destroy some of their accepted ideas.
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