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« on: July 03, 2014, 05:39:05 AM »

Is being competitive from God? You know ... the whole life is a race thinghy, you have to finish first, always run to be better(even when you get tired or exhausted) , be the number one, etc.. This chase after success. Is it of God?
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2014, 05:44:18 AM »

That's what we call mammon.
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2014, 05:46:39 AM »

If competition is just a means for progress and is accompanied by a positive attitude, then it is good.  If it is a way to determine "who is better", then it is not beneficial, especially since in the current conditions it is even an illusion that "the best wins" because people generally don't have an equal start and equal circumstances.
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2014, 03:26:31 PM »

Is being competitive from God? You know ... the whole life is a race thinghy, you have to finish first, always run to be better(even when you get tired or exhausted) , be the number one, etc.. This chase after success. Is it of God?

Forgive me, but there's some ideas or assumptions here that need clarification. After all, St. Paul uses the metaphor of a race to describe the Christian life.

There's nothing wrong, ISTM, with striving to do one's best or better, in any endeavor. Who goes into something determined to be mediocre?  Grin

But if you're competing with other people, or just to have the most toys, status or recognition, so that you can feel better than them - well, I'm sure you know the answer to that one.
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2014, 07:55:28 PM »

It's condemned by St. Paul in strong terms several places. God is a God of love and order, not of strife (that's Eris Wink ).

(And you've noticed something we should all be noticing -- the tacit religion underlying American society -- one that gives Strife glory as creatrix (popular ideas of evolution) and judge and savior (popular ideas of who should be awarded success); and clearly this religion is not orthodox.)
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2014, 07:58:40 PM »

... After all, St. Paul uses the metaphor of a race to describe the Christian life. ...

He also often uses military terms, and in more than one place lays out whole military allegories. However, such strife (of racing or fighting) is not against men but against spiritual powers and the Evil One (Eph. 6:12).
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