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« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2013, 03:44:29 AM »

Who built the church? An Orthodox Emperor.  Who stole it? Roman Catholics and later Muslims.  Who does it go back to?  DA! This is an easy one, the Orthodox.  It is a blessed and consecrated church.  It would probably just need a re-dedication, cleansing or something to that effect WHEN we get the church back. 
And the money to restore the 1500 year old structure would most likely pour in fast.  I'd find extra money to donate.
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« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2013, 11:52:37 AM »

Who built the church? An Orthodox Emperor.  Who stole it? Roman Catholics and later Muslims.  Who does it go back to?  DA! This is an easy one, the Orthodox.  It is a blessed and consecrated church.  It would probably just need a re-dedication, cleansing or something to that effect WHEN we get the church back. 
And the money to restore the 1500 year old structure would most likely pour in fast.  I'd find extra money to donate.

It'd take a war to get it back, and I dunno if you noticed, Greece has no chance in a war against Turkey, and Istanbul is a megacity, it's not like it would be taken as easily as it might have been 100+ years ago.

If it were fully returned, it'd need a reconsecration, but in this scenario, it wouldn't need to be reconsecrated.
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« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2013, 12:18:42 PM »

Who built the church? An Orthodox Emperor. 

An aphthartodocetist one, actually.


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« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2013, 12:23:33 PM »

Who built the church? An Orthodox Emperor. 

An aphthartodocetist one, actually.




A Saint, actually.
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« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2013, 12:57:01 PM »

Who built the church? An Orthodox Emperor. 

An aphthartodocetist one, actually.




I think you'll find that the source for this claim is rather dubious
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« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2013, 03:58:40 PM »

2. As Asteriktos pointed out, we must reconsecrate after Muslims have used it. Your observation: "There are many churches or groups who worship(ed) in places also used by other religions, such as in a hall in a university campus" does not apply in this instance.

AFAIK the last Liturgy was seved there around WWI so it would be OK withour reconsecration.

If a consecrated temple was "decommissioned" and in effect desecrated, wouldn't you have to reconsecrate it?
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« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2013, 04:00:37 PM »

2. As Asteriktos pointed out, we must reconsecrate after Muslims have used it. Your observation: "There are many churches or groups who worship(ed) in places also used by other religions, such as in a hall in a university campus" does not apply in this instance.

AFAIK the last Liturgy was seved there around WWI so it would be OK withour reconsecration.

If a consecrated temple was "decommissioned" and in effect desecrated, wouldn't you have to reconsecrate it?

Yes if it was to be used as a church with a permenant altar. In THIS circumstance (per OP), it wouldn't be reconsecrated.
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