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« on: January 08, 2013, 07:19:18 PM »

A Funny muslim dialogue. Would you like to comment on it?
here is the link

http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/13564/can-mother-teresa-a-non-muslim-go-to-heaven/
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2013, 08:33:44 PM »

tl;dr!

Any Muslim who thinks Mother Teresa as such cannot enter Yawna or whatever they call it, doesn't know their own faith very well.

So if the article said that, it is correct. Any other point is really superfluous and this is supposed to be some "edgy" subject to get your attention probably to make some bland sweeping generalization.

And FTR, Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 12:30:39 AM »

And FTR, Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa.

Christopher Hitchens fan?
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2013, 01:58:48 PM »

tl;dr!

Any Muslim who thinks Mother Teresa as such cannot enter Yawna or whatever they call it, doesn't know their own faith very well.

So if the article said that, it is correct. Any other point is really superfluous and this is supposed to be some "edgy" subject to get your attention probably to make some bland sweeping generalization.

And FTR, Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa.

what was she then?
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2013, 03:26:14 PM »

tl;dr!

Any Muslim who thinks Mother Teresa as such cannot enter Yawna or whatever they call it, doesn't know their own faith very well.

So if the article said that, it is correct. Any other point is really superfluous and this is supposed to be some "edgy" subject to get your attention probably to make some bland sweeping generalization.

And FTR, Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa.

what was she then?

Point proven. Thank you.
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2013, 03:27:15 PM »

And FTR, Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa.

Christopher Hitchens fan?

Not really, although his whole waterboarding adventure is interesting.

To answer your implied question see my post above.
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2013, 07:30:01 PM »

tl;dr!

Any Muslim who thinks Mother Teresa as such cannot enter Yawna or whatever they call it, doesn't know their own faith very well.

So if the article said that, it is correct. Any other point is really superfluous and this is supposed to be some "edgy" subject to get your attention probably to make some bland sweeping generalization.

And FTR, Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa.

what was she then?

Point proven. Thank you.

who was she then?
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2013, 07:36:46 PM »

And FTR, Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa.

Christopher Hitchens fan?

I always kind of assume that meme is wrong just because it's popular with the Hitchens fans.
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take a trip down memory lane:
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2013, 07:41:40 PM »

She refused to have elevators put in her hospitals for the disabled even when it was offered to her by the city...she also wouldn't give pain medication to people.
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2013, 09:13:06 PM »

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It's a good question if Mother Teresa wouldn't give pain medication at all or only with spiritual discernment; for example when she feels that pain would bring a person closer to God.   
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2013, 09:27:51 PM »

Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate.

However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me.  Wink
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2013, 09:30:27 PM »

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...she also wouldn't give pain medication to people.
It's a good question if Mother Teresa wouldn't give pain medication at all or only with spiritual discernment; for example when she feels that pain would bring a person closer to God.   

Either way, it's odd. One sort of crosses a line either way.
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2013, 01:20:39 PM »

Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate.

However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me.  Wink

it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone.
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2013, 02:31:21 PM »

Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate.

However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me.  Wink

it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone.
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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2013, 07:02:01 PM »

Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate.

However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me.  Wink

it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone.
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Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

That is what I am saying. People who go to hell don't go because of their religion. They only go because of their wickedness.
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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2013, 09:34:22 PM »

Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate.

However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me.  Wink

it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone.
Quran 2:62

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

Is there not perhaps also a passage in the Quran which contradicts this, as there is for relations with Christians?

Who are the Sabians?
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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2013, 10:43:24 PM »

Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate.

However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me.  Wink

it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone.
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Who are the Sabians?
Followers of that coach from Alabama?
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« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2013, 10:52:40 PM »

Either that or really cymbal-obsessed drummers...
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2013, 12:36:38 AM »

She refused to have elevators put in her hospitals for the disabled even when it was offered to her by the city...she also wouldn't give pain medication to people.
Source, please.
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Is there not perhaps also a passage in the Quran which contradicts this, as there is for relations with Christians?
Quran 5:72

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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2013, 12:23:57 AM »

Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate.

However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me.  Wink

it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone.
Quran 2:62

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

Is there not perhaps also a passage in the Quran which contradicts this, as there is for relations with Christians?

Isn't this a case where abrogation would apply?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naskh_(tafsir)

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"Many verses counsel patience in the face of the mockery of the unbelievers, while other verses incite to warfare against the unbelievers. The former are linked to the [chronologically anterior] Meccan phase of the mission when the Muslims were too few and weak to do other than endure insult; the latter are linked to Medina where the Prophet had acquired the numbers and the strength to hit back at his enemies. The discrepancy between the two sets of verses indicates that different situations call for different regulations."
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2013, 02:42:19 AM »

She refused to have elevators put in her hospitals for the disabled even when it was offered to her by the city...she also wouldn't give pain medication to people.
Source, please.

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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2013, 10:46:16 AM »

She refused to have elevators put in her hospitals for the disabled even when it was offered to her by the city...she also wouldn't give pain medication to people.
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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2013, 11:35:00 AM »

She refused to have elevators put in her hospitals for the disabled even when it was offered to her by the city...she also wouldn't give pain medication to people.
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She refused to have elevators put in her hospitals for the disabled even when it was offered to her by the city...she also wouldn't give pain medication to people.
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