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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2013, 08:33:44 PM » |
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Any Muslim who thinks Mother Teresa as such cannot enter Yawna or whatever they call it, doesn't know their own faith very well.
So if the article said that, it is correct. Any other point is really superfluous and this is supposed to be some "edgy" subject to get your attention probably to make some bland sweeping generalization.
And FTR, Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 12:30:39 AM » |
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And FTR, Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa.
Christopher Hitchens fan? |
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2013, 01:58:48 PM » |
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tl;dr!
Any Muslim who thinks Mother Teresa as such cannot enter Yawna or whatever they call it, doesn't know their own faith very well.
So if the article said that, it is correct. Any other point is really superfluous and this is supposed to be some "edgy" subject to get your attention probably to make some bland sweeping generalization.
And FTR, Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa.
what was she then? |
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2013, 03:26:14 PM » |
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tl;dr!
Any Muslim who thinks Mother Teresa as such cannot enter Yawna or whatever they call it, doesn't know their own faith very well.
So if the article said that, it is correct. Any other point is really superfluous and this is supposed to be some "edgy" subject to get your attention probably to make some bland sweeping generalization.
And FTR, Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa.
what was she then? Point proven. Thank you. |
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We cannot legislate morality by passing laws controlling firearms. The only evil we can combat lies within our hearts. We need stronger laws to protect the moral foundation of society against the evil of gay marriage. |
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2013, 03:27:15 PM » |
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And FTR, Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa.
Christopher Hitchens fan? Not really, although his whole waterboarding adventure is interesting. To answer your implied question see my post above. |
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We cannot legislate morality by passing laws controlling firearms. The only evil we can combat lies within our hearts. We need stronger laws to protect the moral foundation of society against the evil of gay marriage. |
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2013, 07:30:01 PM » |
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tl;dr!
Any Muslim who thinks Mother Teresa as such cannot enter Yawna or whatever they call it, doesn't know their own faith very well.
So if the article said that, it is correct. Any other point is really superfluous and this is supposed to be some "edgy" subject to get your attention probably to make some bland sweeping generalization.
And FTR, Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa.
what was she then? Point proven. Thank you. who was she then? |
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2013, 07:36:46 PM » |
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And FTR, Mother Teresa was no Mother Teresa.
Christopher Hitchens fan? I always kind of assume that meme is wrong just because it's popular with the Hitchens fans. |
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2013, 07:38:38 PM » |
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If people cry at weddings...why don't they laugh at funerals?
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2013, 07:41:40 PM » |
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She refused to have elevators put in her hospitals for the disabled even when it was offered to her by the city...she also wouldn't give pain medication to people.
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"'Blessed are the peacemakers' For those are peacemakers in themselves who, in conquering and subjecting to reason all the motions of their souls and having their carnal desires tamed, have become in themselves a Kingdom of God."-St. Augustine of Hippo
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2013, 09:13:06 PM » |
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...she also wouldn't give pain medication to people. It's a good question if Mother Teresa wouldn't give pain medication at all or only with spiritual discernment; for example when she feels that pain would bring a person closer to God. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2013, 09:27:51 PM » |
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Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate. However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me.  |
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2013, 09:30:27 PM » |
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...she also wouldn't give pain medication to people. It's a good question if Mother Teresa wouldn't give pain medication at all or only with spiritual discernment; for example when she feels that pain would bring a person closer to God. Either way, it's odd. One sort of crosses a line either way. |
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Not to be flippantly dismissive, but something of such a personal nature as this is best addressed by your priest, not by anonymous yahoos on an Internet discussion forum.
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2013, 01:20:39 PM » |
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Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate. However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me. it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone. |
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2013, 02:31:21 PM » |
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Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate. However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me. it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone. |
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"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2013, 07:02:01 PM » |
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Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate. However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me. it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone. That is what I am saying. People who go to hell don't go because of their religion. They only go because of their wickedness. |
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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2013, 09:34:22 PM » |
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Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate. However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me. it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone. Is there not perhaps also a passage in the Quran which contradicts this, as there is for relations with Christians? Who are the Sabians? |
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Not to be flippantly dismissive, but something of such a personal nature as this is best addressed by your priest, not by anonymous yahoos on an Internet discussion forum.
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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2013, 10:43:24 PM » |
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Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate. However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me. it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone. Who are the Sabians? Followers of that coach from Alabama? |
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If you will, you can become all flame.
Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
I'm not a witch.
Ἄνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Y dduw bo'r diolch.
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« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2013, 10:52:40 PM » |
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Either that or really cymbal-obsessed drummers...
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2013, 12:36:38 AM » |
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She refused to have elevators put in her hospitals for the disabled even when it was offered to her by the city...she also wouldn't give pain medication to people.
Source, please. |
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2013, 11:46:15 PM » |
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Is there not perhaps also a passage in the Quran which contradicts this, as there is for relations with Christians?
Quran 5:72 They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers. Who are the Sabians?
Followers of John the Baptist, living in southern Mesopotamia. |
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If you will, you can become all flame.
Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
I'm not a witch.
Ἄνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Y dduw bo'r diolch.
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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2013, 12:23:57 AM » |
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Personally I don't know for sure if the Sisters of Charity do provide the best or even the proper medical care, and given the donations they receive, it's certainly proper to question this and insist that painkillers and meds be given as appropriate. However, as for the thread title, I don't see why Mother Teresa can't go to heaven. Since I am the greatest of sinners, she would certainly go ahead of me. it was a muslim dialogue between a teacher and a student. They think we are going to hell, just because we are not muslims, and I don't know how to prove it to them that, people don't go to hell because of their religion. They go there because of their wickedness alone. Is there not perhaps also a passage in the Quran which contradicts this, as there is for relations with Christians? Isn't this a case where abrogation would apply? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naskh_(tafsir)The newer revelations of the (false) prophet override the older ones: "Many verses counsel patience in the face of the mockery of the unbelievers, while other verses incite to warfare against the unbelievers. The former are linked to the [chronologically anterior] Meccan phase of the mission when the Muslims were too few and weak to do other than endure insult; the latter are linked to Medina where the Prophet had acquired the numbers and the strength to hit back at his enemies. The discrepancy between the two sets of verses indicates that different situations call for different regulations." |
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2013, 02:42:19 AM » |
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She refused to have elevators put in her hospitals for the disabled even when it was offered to her by the city...she also wouldn't give pain medication to people.
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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2013, 10:46:16 AM » |
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She refused to have elevators put in her hospitals for the disabled even when it was offered to her by the city...she also wouldn't give pain medication to people.
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She refused to have elevators put in her hospitals for the disabled even when it was offered to her by the city...she also wouldn't give pain medication to people.
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