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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-20929439Short but neat slideshow from BBC. Pretty neat juxtapositions.
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2013, 07:40:29 PM » |
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Glad it wasn't just "Russians celebrate Christmas." 
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2013, 08:14:41 PM » |
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Glad it wasn't just "Russians celebrate Christmas."  +1 Wow, there is even Šabac - in some way my hometown (the place that my father and his parents and so on were born and I'm there in the birth register too)
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2013, 08:58:20 PM » |
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Caption from one of the pictures: Orthodox Christians observe the Julian calendar. *sigh* The Greeks, Bulgarians, Antiochians and Romanians would disagree ....
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2013, 09:31:09 PM » |
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2013, 11:31:19 PM » |
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Al Jazeera must have better journalists than the BBC: " Most Orthodox Christians celebrate Christmas according to the Julian calendar on January 7. Western Christian churches mark the holiday according to the Gregorian calendar."
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If you will, you can become all flame. Extra caritatem nulla salus. In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness". I'm not a witch. Ἄνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας "Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi Y dduw bo'r diolch.
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2013, 11:29:25 AM » |
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Al Jazeera must have better journalists than the BBC: " Most Orthodox Christians celebrate Christmas according to the Julian calendar on January 7. Western Christian churches mark the holiday according to the Gregorian calendar." I normally don't like to watch or read the cunning mouthpiece of Arab nationalism and Islam, but when I do, I found this: “Orthodox women attend Christmas midnight mass led by the newly elected Pope Tawadros II, head of the Egyptian Coptic Orthodox Church, at the al-Abasseya Cathedral in Cairo.” Which is wrong: those are Ethiopian women in an Ethiopian church. 
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2013, 11:36:07 AM » |
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Al Jazeera must have better journalists than the BBC: " Most Orthodox Christians celebrate Christmas according to the Julian calendar on January 7. Western Christian churches mark the holiday according to the Gregorian calendar." I normally don't like to watch or read the cunning mouthpiece of Arab nationalism and Islam, but when I do, I found this: “Orthodox women attend Christmas midnight mass led by the newly elected Pope Tawadros II, head of the Egyptian Coptic Orthodox Church, at the al-Abasseya Cathedral in Cairo.” Which is wrong: those are Ethiopian women in an Ethiopian church.  How do you know it's an Ethiopian Church? And how was the description "Orthodox women" wrong? 
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2013, 11:47:27 AM » |
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Al Jazeera must have better journalists than the BBC: " Most Orthodox Christians celebrate Christmas according to the Julian calendar on January 7. Western Christian churches mark the holiday according to the Gregorian calendar." I normally don't like to watch or read the cunning mouthpiece of Arab nationalism and Islam, but when I do, I found this: “Orthodox women attend Christmas midnight mass led by the newly elected Pope Tawadros II, head of the Egyptian Coptic Orthodox Church, at the al-Abasseya Cathedral in Cairo.” Which is wrong: those are Ethiopian women in an Ethiopian church.  This is what the BBC said about that exact same picture: (First, the preceding picture:) "Coptic Christians converged on Cairo's main cathedral for Midnight Mass led by their new Pope, Tawadros II." (Then, the picture with the women:) "Ethiopian Christian Orthodox women were among those who attended the service." ("the service" referring to the Cairo cathedral service.)
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If you will, you can become all flame. Extra caritatem nulla salus. In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness". I'm not a witch. Ἄνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας "Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi Y dduw bo'r diolch.
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, 12:33:36 PM » |
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2013, 02:10:17 PM » |
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Do all syriac churches have a fire burning on nativity?
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2013, 02:12:58 PM » |
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Do all syriac churches have a fire burning on nativity?
Yup, it's to symbolize Christ's Light entering the world. We use the palm leaves from the previous Palm Sunday to fuel the fire.
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2013, 04:49:04 PM » |
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interesting, when i went to a traditionalist anglican (very) early morning Paschal liturgy a few years ago, they had a fire burning in the dark outside the church (about 5.30am) and that was lit from old palm crosses (not the ones from the previous week! and i suppose some other stuff went into it too as it was quite big) and the people near the fire lit their candles from this, and then those behind them lit their candles from the people at the front, and so on until everyone's candle was lit, and we processed into the church behind the bishop and other clergy in complete darkness, lit only by the candles we were holding. it was exceptionally beautiful. the whole service and the sermon also were quite 'orthodox' in nature, and for a while, i wondered if i could be a member of anglican and orthodox churches at the same time (i can be very slow to understand things at times!) sadly, the bishop soon after was 'encouraged' to move to a new role and become a general bishop, leaving his diocese (officially not a demotion!). those of us who agreed with his views assumed this was for openly opposing the tide of liberalism within the church.
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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2013, 05:01:09 PM » |
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In the Paschal Vigil, in the Roman Catholic Church, they would strike a flint to start a fire and bless it and that flame was used to light the Paschal Candle. In my former parish they would use branches from a thorn bush to fuel the fire.
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2013, 05:06:18 PM » |
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Do all syriac churches have a fire burning on nativity?
Yup, it's to symbolize Christ's Light entering the world. We use the palm leaves from the previous Palm Sunday to fuel the fire. Nice 
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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2013, 05:25:34 PM » |
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Do all syriac churches have a fire burning on nativity?
Yup, it's to symbolize Christ's Light entering the world. We use the palm leaves from the previous Palm Sunday to fuel the fire. That's so great, it also can remind us about the shepherds who were the witness of the Christ's Nativity. That's why in Serbia the branches of oak - called badnjak (from "Badnje Veče - Chrstiams Even" and "badnje" from "vigil") -are fired. That's interesting that Syriacs use for it the palm leaves - in Roman Catholic Church they're used for making ash for Ash Wednesday that begins Great Lent
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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2013, 09:27:12 AM » |
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Al Jazeera must have better journalists than the BBC: " Most Orthodox Christians celebrate Christmas according to the Julian calendar on January 7. Western Christian churches mark the holiday according to the Gregorian calendar." I normally don't like to watch or read the cunning mouthpiece of Arab nationalism and Islam, but when I do, I found this: “Orthodox women attend Christmas midnight mass led by the newly elected Pope Tawadros II, head of the Egyptian Coptic Orthodox Church, at the al-Abasseya Cathedral in Cairo.” Which is wrong: those are Ethiopian women in an Ethiopian church.  This is what the BBC said about that exact same picture: (First, the preceding picture:) "Coptic Christians converged on Cairo's main cathedral for Midnight Mass led by their new Pope, Tawadros II." (Then, the picture with the women:) "Ethiopian Christian Orthodox women were among those who attended the service." ("the service" referring to the Cairo cathedral service.) No! All the women here are Ethiopians. Coptic Egyptian women don't know head covering inside a church, which I find it very strange. So, this was an Ethiopian church, and His Holiness was not there, al-Jihadeera, which is a BBC franchise, sucks, period!
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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2013, 10:12:02 AM » |
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Coptic Egyptian women don't know head covering inside a church, which I find it very strange. Really? 
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Coptic Egyptian women don't know head covering inside a church, which I find it very strange. Really?  @Ansgar How many are without? In an Ethiopian church every woman covers her head. The demonic Muslims stole that from them, like they did the form of their prayers, the call for prayers... and many other things. Their evil quran even uses over 300 Ethiopic words to confuse Christians. Satan, the imposter always immitates some parts of God's ways to fight against God. Copy, copy, copy
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« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2013, 11:07:08 AM » |
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Coptic Egyptian women don't know head covering inside a church, which I find it very strange. Really?  @Ansgar How many are without? In an Ethiopian church every woman covers her head. The demonic Muslims stole that from them, like they did the form of their prayers, the call for prayers... and many other things. Their evil quran even uses over 300 Ethiopic words to confuse Christians. Satan, the imposter always immitates some parts of God's ways to fight against God. Copy, copy, copy Forgive me Balthasar, but you remind me about the story told by Elder Paisios, about the bee and the fly. The fly see only the dirt around him and ignores the beautiful flowers.
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« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2013, 11:12:26 AM » |
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Al Jazeera must have better journalists than the BBC: " Most Orthodox Christians celebrate Christmas according to the Julian calendar on January 7. Western Christian churches mark the holiday according to the Gregorian calendar." I normally don't like to watch or read the cunning mouthpiece of Arab nationalism and Islam, but when I do, I found this: “Orthodox women attend Christmas midnight mass led by the newly elected Pope Tawadros II, head of the Egyptian Coptic Orthodox Church, at the al-Abasseya Cathedral in Cairo.” Which is wrong: those are Ethiopian women in an Ethiopian church.  This is what the BBC said about that exact same picture: (First, the preceding picture:) "Coptic Christians converged on Cairo's main cathedral for Midnight Mass led by their new Pope, Tawadros II." (Then, the picture with the women:) "Ethiopian Christian Orthodox women were among those who attended the service." ("the service" referring to the Cairo cathedral service.) No! All the women here are Ethiopians. Coptic Egyptian women don't know head covering inside a church, which I find it very strange. So, this was an Ethiopian church, and His Holiness was not there, al-Jihadeera, which is a BBC franchise, sucks, period! I think you mean all the women in the picture, not all the women in the Church.
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Conquer evil men by your gentle kindness, and make zealous men wonder at your goodness. Put the lover of legality to shame by your compassion. With the afflicted be afflicted in mind. Love all men, but keep distant from all men. —St. Isaac of Syria
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