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As New Year's resolutions face their first weeks of testing, the Barna Group has released a new study on the "changing state of temptation" in America. Most interesting are the differences in admitted temptation based on religious identity. Protestants are tempted more than Catholics (or Americans in general) by eating too much (66% vs. 44% vs. 55%). By contrast, Catholics are tempted more than Protestants (or Americans in general) by gossip (29% vs. 22% vs. 26%). Protestants are also more likely than Catholics to say they struggle with procrastination (57% to 51%) and being lazy (40% to 28%). (The study identifies practicing Christians as those who "have attended a church service in the past month and say their religious faith is very important in their life.") . |
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If you will, you can become all flame.
Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
I'm not a witch.
Ἄνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Y dduw bo'r diolch.
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2013, 12:46:51 PM » |
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I was gping to read the whole article but I was too tired to click the link; will do it later, maybe.
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"Sometimes, you just gotta say, 'OK, I still have nine live, two-headed animals' and move on.'' (owner of Coney Island freak show, upon learning he'd been outbid on a 5-legged puppy)
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2013, 12:58:04 PM » |
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As New Year's resolutions face their first weeks of testing, the Barna Group has released a new study on the "changing state of temptation" in America. Most interesting are the differences in admitted temptation based on religious identity. Protestants are tempted more than Catholics (or Americans in general) by eating too much (66% vs. 44% vs. 55%). By contrast, Catholics are tempted more than Protestants (or Americans in general) by gossip (29% vs. 22% vs. 26%). Protestants are also more likely than Catholics to say they struggle with procrastination (57% to 51%) and being lazy (40% to 28%). (The study identifies practicing Christians as those who "have attended a church service in the past month and say their religious faith is very important in their life.") . Is any of this a surprise? The law is what condemns us and causes our guilt. What laws are Purmeritans most found of? |
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We cannot legislate morality by passing laws controlling firearms. The only evil we can combat lies within our hearts. We need stronger laws to protect the moral foundation of society against the evil of gay marriage. |
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2013, 05:50:35 PM » |
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Well can you blame them? They don't really have any fasting traditions to guide them like we have.
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"'Blessed are the peacemakers' For those are peacemakers in themselves who, in conquering and subjecting to reason all the motions of their souls and having their carnal desires tamed, have become in themselves a Kingdom of God."-St. Augustine of Hippo
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2013, 05:52:23 PM » |
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Well can you blame them? They don't really have any fasting traditions to guide them like we have.
You think? You might want to look at Puritanism again. Start with the various days of thanksgiving. EDIT: Only those obsessed with not eating would care about doing so. The law judges us, as St. Paul said and Kant further developed to explain unbeknownst to him at the time neurosis of modernity which more than a few *ahem* posters here continually demonstrate. The law remains within modernity but it is denuded of content so we are judged guilty but never knowing the why. Extreme neurotics focus this anxiety into a single or a few aspects of their lives to better manage their more acute awareness of this fact. Others attempt to fill in the law once again, hence the flight to fundamentalism or all sorts. Christian freedom per St. Paul doesn't seem to be for everyone. |
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« Last Edit: January 07, 2013, 05:59:14 PM by orthonorm »
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We cannot legislate morality by passing laws controlling firearms. The only evil we can combat lies within our hearts. We need stronger laws to protect the moral foundation of society against the evil of gay marriage. |
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2013, 06:25:21 PM » |
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The law judges us, as St. Paul said Often when Paul speaks on law, he means some law in the old testament, and not the holy commandments, which the Lord gave us. When I had been practicing faith in a protestant way (I was baptized orthodox) I felt much less guilt as believing and acting in the orthodox way. It's not the law, which condemns us. The more the light of Christ shines on your soul, the more contrition in your heart you'll feel. |
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The helping of others, the giving of alms, and all external goods don’t calm the arrogance of the heart. Humility of the mind, the pain of repentence and the breaking of the will, however, humble the proud spirit. -Elder Joseph the Hesychast
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2013, 06:36:28 PM » |
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The law judges us, as St. Paul said Often when Paul speaks on law, he means some law in the old testament, and not the holy commandments, which the Lord gave us. When I had been practicing faith in a protestant way (I was baptized orthodox) I felt much less guilt as believing and acting in the orthodox way. The more the light of Christ shines on your soul, the more contrition in your heart you'll feel. Perhaps, I cannot argue with your feelings but I can take issue with the dichotomy between "some law in the old testament" with the "holy commandments". There is an interesting tension between St. Paul's discussion on Christian freedom and Christ's perfecting "some law in the old testament". Are we still on topic? |
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We cannot legislate morality by passing laws controlling firearms. The only evil we can combat lies within our hearts. We need stronger laws to protect the moral foundation of society against the evil of gay marriage. |
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2013, 06:42:42 PM » |
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What do you understand by 'christian freedom'?
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The helping of others, the giving of alms, and all external goods don’t calm the arrogance of the heart. Humility of the mind, the pain of repentence and the breaking of the will, however, humble the proud spirit. -Elder Joseph the Hesychast
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2013, 12:55:45 AM » |
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What do you understand by 'christian freedom'?
Not trading Leviticus and the Talmud for the Rudder would be a good start. Seems like we were freed from one law only to enslave ourselves with another. |
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, 02:03:38 AM » |
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What do you understand by 'christian freedom'?
Not trading Leviticus and the Talmud for the Rudder would be a good start. Seems like we were freed from one law only to enslave ourselves with another. You're on a roll lately. Seriously, some good stuff! |
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“Till we can become divine, we must be content to be human, lest in our hurry for change we sink to something lower.” -Anthony Trollope
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2013, 04:14:01 PM » |
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What do you understand by 'christian freedom'?
Not trading Leviticus and the Talmud for the Rudder would be a good start. Seems like we were freed from one law only to enslave ourselves with another. Living up to your name. Thanks for punching up my delayed reply. |
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