Topic: are you gay?

[Shanghaiski]

No, but I wish that God would have made me asexual and aromantic--that way I wouldn't have the burden of resisting lust, porn and fornication.

See, the fact that asexuals exist attests to the fact that sexual orientation isn't a choice. Why wouldn't you want to be rid of such concerns?

Father Giryus would know better, but it doesn't seem to me that "sexual orientation" is a term that jives with Orthodox anthropology.

[Shanghaiski]

Don't worry, you are young and you don't have a family to feed in the face of rising food prices.  Pork prices will be going through the roof this year.  I'm trying to save the family some money by putting up as much stuff as possible while we still can afford it.  Let's just pray for more rain this year.

Just be yourself and don't worry about what others think.  Never compare your insides to other people's outsides.

BTW, I made Kiełbasa Podhalańska, Kiełbasa Krakowska, Kiełbasa Szynkowa, & Kiełbasa Serdelowa.

when you are young, the idea of cooking is 'girly,' but when you get older and make 40 kilos of kielbasa... suddenly you are the ikon of masculinity!

Made 15 kilos before the Nativity. Not even close to 40.

All that's needed is sauerkraut and paprika and sour cream, and maybe some spaetzle, fried with onions and bacon.

[augustin717]

No, but I wish that God would have made me asexual and aromantic--that way I wouldn't have the burden of resisting lust, porn and fornication.

See, the fact that asexuals exist attests to the fact that sexual orientation isn't a choice. Why wouldn't you want to be rid of such concerns?

Father Giryus would know better, but it doesn't seem to me that "sexual orientation" is a term that jives with Orthodox anthropology.

That's true. Chattel slavere though used to jive til around mid-nineteen century. I'm sure most wouldn't think it jives well today unless they wanna look like total idiots

[Shanghaiski]

No, but I wish that God would have made me asexual and aromantic--that way I wouldn't have the burden of resisting lust, porn and fornication.

See, the fact that asexuals exist attests to the fact that sexual orientation isn't a choice. Why wouldn't you want to be rid of such concerns?

Father Giryus would know better, but it doesn't seem to me that "sexual orientation" is a term that jives with Orthodox anthropology.

That's true. Chattel slavere though used to jive til around mid-nineteen century. I'm sure most wouldn't think it jives well today unless they wanna look like total idiots

Oh, never mind.

[Kerdy]

I am queer as a three dollar bill.  I have spent 51 years in the hell of being a lesbian in a man's body.  My Priest is OK with it, so that is at least a plus.

I suffer from the same affliction. My priest has treated me with unconditional Christian love. However, I have been ostracized and condemned by the LGBT community.



Selam

What is it that makes people think this joke is funny?  It's tired and worn-out and wasn't very funny to begin with.

I would explain, but I don't think you would understand.

[That person]

I am queer as a three dollar bill.  I have spent 51 years in the hell of being a lesbian in a man's body.  My Priest is OK with it, so that is at least a plus.

I suffer from the same affliction. My priest has treated me with unconditional Christian love. However, I have been ostracized and condemned by the LGBT community.



Selam

What is it that makes people think this joke is funny?  It's tired and worn-out and wasn't very funny to begin with.

I would explain, but I don't think you would understand.

Try me.

[Kerdy]

I am queer as a three dollar bill.  I have spent 51 years in the hell of being a lesbian in a man's body.  My Priest is OK with it, so that is at least a plus.

I suffer from the same affliction. My priest has treated me with unconditional Christian love. However, I have been ostracized and condemned by the LGBT community.



Selam

What is it that makes people think this joke is funny?  It's tired and worn-out and wasn't very funny to begin with.

I would explain, but I don't think you would understand.

Try me.

Would you mind by starting with an explaintion of why it isn't funny.

[theistgal]

It might be funnier if you try to imagine Moe saying it to Curley.

[genesisone]

No, but I wish that God would have made me asexual and aromantic--that way I wouldn't have the burden of resisting lust, porn and fornication.

Others have quoted what you wrote here. I still keep leaving out the "n"  .

[Schultz]

No, but I wish that God would have made me asexual and aromantic--that way I wouldn't have the burden of resisting lust, porn and fornication.

See, the fact that asexuals exist attests to the fact that sexual orientation isn't a choice. Why wouldn't you want to be rid of such concerns?

Father Giryus would know better, but it doesn't seem to me that "sexual orientation" is a term that jives with Orthodox anthropology.

That's true. Chattel slavere though used to jive til around mid-nineteen century. I'm sure most wouldn't think it jives well today unless they wanna look like total idiots

JiBe.  not jiVe.  JiBe.  Not being a grammar Nazi (I gave up my membership card to that party a while ago), but this one still bugs the heck out of me.  B no V.

[Schultz]

I am queer as a three dollar bill.  I have spent 51 years in the hell of being a lesbian in a man's body.  My Priest is OK with it, so that is at least a plus.

I suffer from the same affliction. My priest has treated me with unconditional Christian love. However, I have been ostracized and condemned by the LGBT community.



Selam

What is it that makes people think this joke is funny?  It's tired and worn-out and wasn't very funny to begin with.

I would explain, but I don't think you would understand.

Try me.

Would you mind by starting with an explaintion of why it isn't funny.

Because it's as old and tired as, "Take my wife...please."

[Jetavan]

No, but I wish that God would have made me asexual and aromantic--that way I wouldn't have the burden of resisting lust, porn and fornication.

See, the fact that asexuals exist attests to the fact that sexual orientation isn't a choice. Why wouldn't you want to be rid of such concerns?

Father Giryus would know better, but it doesn't seem to me that "sexual orientation" is a term that jives with Orthodox anthropology.

That's true. Chattel slavere though used to jive til around mid-nineteen century. I'm sure most wouldn't think it jives well today unless they wanna look like total idiots

 B no V.

Aren't they the same in Greek?

[orthonorm]

No, but I wish that God would have made me asexual and aromantic--that way I wouldn't have the burden of resisting lust, porn and fornication.

See, the fact that asexuals exist attests to the fact that sexual orientation isn't a choice. Why wouldn't you want to be rid of such concerns?

Father Giryus would know better, but it doesn't seem to me that "sexual orientation" is a term that jives with Orthodox anthropology.

That's true. Chattel slavere though used to jive til around mid-nineteen century. I'm sure most wouldn't think it jives well today unless they wanna look like total idiots

JiBe.  not jiVe.  JiBe.  Not being a grammar Nazi (I gave up my membership card to that party a while ago), but this one still bugs the heck out of me.  B no V.

This is no gibe on your part, especially for folks who are ESL, especially when they are as fluent and clever in English as our dear augustin is. You've just given him more ammo to be acerbically witty.

For that, we all should thank you.

(The confusion of jive, jibe, and gibe bothers me as well.)

[Asteriktos]

It ain't cool bein no jive turkey on oc.net.

[Jetavan]

Blame the British for "ain't" (and "an't"):

"'I guessed it was you, Mr Pancks,' said she, 'for it's quite your regular night; ain't it?'"
-- Charles Dickens, Little Dorrit

[JamesRottnek]

I am queer as a three dollar bill.  I have spent 51 years in the hell of being a lesbian in a man's body.  My Priest is OK with it, so that is at least a plus.

I suffer from the same affliction. My priest has treated me with unconditional Christian love. However, I have been ostracized and condemned by the LGBT community.



Selam

What is it that makes people think this joke is funny?  It's tired and worn-out and wasn't very funny to begin with.

I would explain, but I don't think you would understand.

Try me.

Would you mind by starting with an explaintion of why it isn't funny.

Because it's as old and tired as, "Take my wife...please."

^This.

[Kerdy]

I am queer as a three dollar bill.  I have spent 51 years in the hell of being a lesbian in a man's body.  My Priest is OK with it, so that is at least a plus.

I suffer from the same affliction. My priest has treated me with unconditional Christian love. However, I have been ostracized and condemned by the LGBT community.



Selam

What is it that makes people think this joke is funny?  It's tired and worn-out and wasn't very funny to begin with.

I would explain, but I don't think you would understand.

Try me.

Would you mind by starting with an explaintion of why it isn't funny.

Because it's as old and tired as, "Take my wife...please."

^This.

This means its only no longer funny to you.

[Gebre Menfes Kidus]

I am queer as a three dollar bill.  I have spent 51 years in the hell of being a lesbian in a man's body.  My Priest is OK with it, so that is at least a plus.

I suffer from the same affliction. My priest has treated me with unconditional Christian love. However, I have been ostracized and condemned by the LGBT community.



Selam

What is it that makes people think this joke is funny?  It's tired and worn-out and wasn't very funny to begin with.

I would explain, but I don't think you would understand.

Try me.

Would you mind by starting with an explaintion of why it isn't funny.

Because it's as old and tired as, "Take my wife...please."

^This.

"Take my wives, but please don't take all of them." - Warren Jeffs -



Selam

[Gebre Menfes Kidus]

I am queer as a three dollar bill.  I have spent 51 years in the hell of being a lesbian in a man's body.  My Priest is OK with it, so that is at least a plus.

I suffer from the same affliction. My priest has treated me with unconditional Christian love. However, I have been ostracized and condemned by the LGBT community.



Selam

What is it that makes people think this joke is funny?  It's tired and worn-out and wasn't very funny to begin with.

It isn't necessarily a joke. I once had a pair of students (twin boys) whose biological father was undergoing a sex change. It wasn't long before I met his?her? new partner: another woman. My colleagues and I were left shaking our heads.

Oh absolutely.  But I seriously doubted that Punch and Gebre were coming out as transexuals, on the forum (though guys, or ladies if you prefer, I will offer you my full support if you do).

Gosh, thanks for that. I hope you will offer us just as much support if we remain heterosexual. 



Selam

[JamesRottnek]

I am queer as a three dollar bill.  I have spent 51 years in the hell of being a lesbian in a man's body.  My Priest is OK with it, so that is at least a plus.

I suffer from the same affliction. My priest has treated me with unconditional Christian love. However, I have been ostracized and condemned by the LGBT community.



Selam

What is it that makes people think this joke is funny?  It's tired and worn-out and wasn't very funny to begin with.

I would explain, but I don't think you would understand.

Try me.

Would you mind by starting with an explaintion of why it isn't funny.

Because it's as old and tired as, "Take my wife...please."

^This.

"Take my wives, but please don't take all of them." - Warren Jeffs -



Selam

Now this was actually funny.

[Tikhon.of.Colorado]

I am queer as a three dollar bill.  I have spent 51 years in the hell of being a lesbian in a man's body.  My Priest is OK with it, so that is at least a plus.

I suffer from the same affliction. My priest has treated me with unconditional Christian love. However, I have been ostracized and condemned by the LGBT community.



Selam

What is it that makes people think this joke is funny?  It's tired and worn-out and wasn't very funny to begin with.

It isn't necessarily a joke. I once had a pair of students (twin boys) whose biological father was undergoing a sex change. It wasn't long before I met his?her? new partner: another woman. My colleagues and I were left shaking our heads.

Oh absolutely.  But I seriously doubted that Punch and Gebre were coming out as transexuals, on the forum (though guys, or ladies if you prefer, I will offer you my full support if you do).

Gosh, thanks for that. I hope you will offer us just as much support if we remain heterosexual. 



Selam

I support your heterosexuality, Gebre! 

[Schultz]

I am queer as a three dollar bill.  I have spent 51 years in the hell of being a lesbian in a man's body.  My Priest is OK with it, so that is at least a plus.

I suffer from the same affliction. My priest has treated me with unconditional Christian love. However, I have been ostracized and condemned by the LGBT community.



Selam

What is it that makes people think this joke is funny?  It's tired and worn-out and wasn't very funny to begin with.

I would explain, but I don't think you would understand.

Try me.

Would you mind by starting with an explaintion of why it isn't funny.

Because it's as old and tired as, "Take my wife...please."

^This.

"Take my wives, but please don't take all of them." - Warren Jeffs -



Selam

My private law firm library gets his missives every few weeks, including a recent hardbound book that compiled a year's worth of directives from God through Jeffs.

My Jewish lesbian co-worker collects them.

[Hiwot]

I am queer as a three dollar bill.  I have spent 51 years in the hell of being a lesbian in a man's body.  My Priest is OK with it, so that is at least a plus.

I suffer from the same affliction. My priest has treated me with unconditional Christian love. However, I have been ostracized and condemned by the LGBT community.



Selam

What is it that makes people think this joke is funny?  It's tired and worn-out and wasn't very funny to begin with.

I would explain, but I don't think you would understand.

Try me.

Would you mind by starting with an explaintion of why it isn't funny.

Because it's as old and tired as, "Take my wife...please."

^This.

"Take my wives, but please don't take all of them." - Warren Jeffs -



Selam

My private law firm library gets his missives every few weeks, including a recent hardbound book that compiled a year's worth of directives from God through Jeffs.

My Jewish lesbian co-worker collects them.

ROFL!

[Hiwot]

"I wish that God didn't give me hands or a mouth cuz then I wouldn't have to worry about eating this damn tree in the garden"  

Struggling again the sexual appetite is infinately hard for me, I would copulate with just about anything if not for the Grace of God

 Just saw this, well said ashman.

[augustin717]

"I wish that God didn't give me hands or a mouth cuz then I wouldn't have to worry about eating this damn tree in the garden"  

Struggling again the sexual appetite is infinately hard for me, I would copulate with just about anything if not for the Grace of God

 Just saw this, well said ashman.

I for one tend to be more selective when it comes to copulating.

[Hiwot]

"I wish that God didn't give me hands or a mouth cuz then I wouldn't have to worry about eating this damn tree in the garden"  

Struggling again the sexual appetite is infinately hard for me, I would copulate with just about anything if not for the Grace of God

 Just saw this, well said ashman.

I for one tend to be more selective when it comes to copulating.

what can I say Augustin, I would terrify the Devil himself with what I can think up, yet remain selective as well by the Grace of God.He keeps protecting me from myself.

[augustin717]

Scaring the devil can't be that bad. Almost sounds like a good deed.

[Hiwot]

Scaring the devil can't be that bad. Almost sounds like a good deed.

hehehe Not when he becomes so sacred that he starts crossing himself when he sees me.

[augustin717]

it's better if two scare the devil instead of one.

[Hiwot]

it's better if two scare the devil instead of one.

well when you put it like that.. heck I can drink to that! hehehe

[tweety234]

Scaring the devil can't be that bad. Almost sounds like a good deed.

hehehe Not when he becomes so sacred that he starts crossing himself when he sees me.

come to my house for a week. So he can be gone at least for a week.

[Hiwot]

Scaring the devil can't be that bad. Almost sounds like a good deed.

hehehe Not when he becomes so sacred that he starts crossing himself when he sees me.

come to my house for a week. So he can be gone at least for a week.

hehehe, darkness does not chase darkness away..

on a somber note.. to address the other part of your statement.I think our serious battle is with ourselves those who have a certain mastery over themselves have by the Grace of God passed many of the traps of the adversary. They say fools rush in where angels fear to tread and I have been such a fool enough times to know of the sort of potential that lays dormant in us awaiting opportune moment. Hear what lady of the woods says here , think about what she meant..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX3px_Ivs44

[augustin717]

If you can get the devil to cross himself that's surely the first step towards that universal reconciliation creation longs for.

[Hiwot]

If you can get the devil to cross himself that's surely the first step towards that universal reconciliation creation longs for.

LOL! yeah I would have indulged in the scary stuff i can think of out of such altruistic agenda lol  but sadly the agenda itself would not be universal you see, one would be left out of that reconciliation i e. me lol how is that for the perfect plan? so I decided to give it up as a plan, oh well...lol

[tweety234]

If you can get the devil to cross himself that's surely the first step towards that universal reconciliation creation longs for.

do you think he will repent anytime soon?

[augustin717]

If you can get the devil to cross himself that's surely the first step towards that universal reconciliation creation longs for.

do you think he will repent anytime soon?

it's worth trying at least

[Ebor]

My private law firm library gets his missives every few weeks, including a recent hardbound book that compiled a year's worth of directives from God through Jeffs.

Far out.
Is it just your firm or do you know if they're sent to some/many others? The messages are sent in hard copy as opposed to email?  Do you have any idea of why they're sent to you? As far as I know the FLSD doesn't have any groups/outliers on the east coast, so it's rather curious.

Did you look at any of the "directives"? 

[William]

Is there even a point for someone who believes that homosexuality is sinful to act upon to come out?

[Tikhon.of.Colorado]

Is there even a point for someone who believes that homosexuality is sinful to act upon to come out?

I don't see one.  It's telling everyone around you who you're attracted to, but if you're not going to see anyone, it doesn't really mean a hill of beans to anyone.

[Ionnis]

Is there even a point for someone who believes that homosexuality is sinful to act upon to come out?

Some report that disclosing their sexual orientation, even if they are living chastely as the Church understands it, delivers them from a spiritual darkness that previously plagued them while they suffered this enormous cross in secret.  If that is the case, and really we have no reason to disbelieve such testimony, then what is the problem? 

[JamesRottnek]

Is there even a point for someone who believes that homosexuality is sinful to act upon to come out?

Have you ever tried keeping a substantial secret about yourself from everyone?

[NicholasMyra]

Is there even a point for someone who believes that homosexuality is sinful to act upon to come out?

People shouldn't have to come to terms with such things alone, for one.

[Tikhon.of.Colorado]

Is there even a point for someone who believes that homosexuality is sinful to act upon to come out?

People shouldn't have to come to terms with such things alone, for one.

That's true.  Just dealing with the attraction, and feeling alienated because your feelings aren't accepted is terrible.  I threw up when I had "the talk" with my therapist.

[LBK]

Is there even a point for someone who believes that homosexuality is sinful to act upon to come out?

Have you ever tried keeping a substantial secret about yourself from everyone?

I have. More than once. Nothing immoral or criminal, mind you. I've also kept secrets about others countless times.

[orthonorm]

Is there even a point for someone who believes that homosexuality is sinful to act upon to come out?

Have you ever tried keeping a substantial secret about yourself from everyone?

Everyone does. In fact that which is most important about ourselves is incapable of even being disclosed to ourselves much less to another.

And, I'm Batman.

Oops!