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"Buried Christian Empire Casts New Light on Early Islam"
« on: January 03, 2013, 09:55:27 AM »
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/buried-christian-empire-in-yemen-casts-new-light-on-early-islam-a-874048.html

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"Archeologists are studying the ruins of a buried Christian empire in the highlands of Yemen. The sites have sparked a number of questions about the early history of Islam. Was there once a church in Mecca?"


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Re: "Buried Christian Empire Casts New Light on Early Islam"
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2013, 10:05:41 AM »
Yemen had a Arabic-Jewish King, named Dhu Nuwas, who was not known for being friendly towards Byzantines and other Christians. The Ethiopians fought him when they invaded Yemen in 525.
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Re: "Buried Christian Empire Casts New Light on Early Islam"
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2013, 10:40:20 AM »
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Re: "Buried Christian Empire Casts New Light on Early Islam"
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2013, 01:04:10 PM »
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/buried-christian-empire-in-yemen-casts-new-light-on-early-islam-a-874048.html

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"Archeologists are studying the ruins of a buried Christian empire in the highlands of Yemen. The sites have sparked a number of questions about the early history of Islam. Was there once a church in Mecca?"


We know from the Muslims sources that the Ka'bah had an icon of the Theotokos and one of Abraham sacrificing Isaac.
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Re: "Buried Christian Empire Casts New Light on Early Islam"
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2013, 11:37:35 PM »
That's interesting, was the icon there before it was made as a Muslim holy site What about ? Is it still there ?.
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Re: "Buried Christian Empire Casts New Light on Early Islam"
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2013, 12:28:49 AM »
Yemen had a Arabic-Jewish King, named Dhu Nuwas, who was not known for being friendly towards Byzantines and other Christians. The Ethiopians fought him when they invaded Yemen in 525.

And he was utterly destroyed. Praise God.
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Re: "Buried Christian Empire Casts New Light on Early Islam"
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2013, 12:29:36 AM »
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/buried-christian-empire-in-yemen-casts-new-light-on-early-islam-a-874048.html

12/21/2012

"Archeologists are studying the ruins of a buried Christian empire in the highlands of Yemen. The sites have sparked a number of questions about the early history of Islam. Was there once a church in Mecca?"


We know from the Muslims sources that the Ka'bah had an icon of the Theotokos and one of Abraham sacrificing Isaac.

DId they cross out the name Isaac and write Ishmael?
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Re: "Buried Christian Empire Casts New Light on Early Islam"
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2013, 12:22:10 PM »
Does not compute :-). lol

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Re: "Buried Christian Empire Casts New Light on Early Islam"
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2013, 12:27:06 PM »
Old news, but exciting to hear about the archaeological finds! There's so, so much archaeological work waiting to be done in Ethiopia and Yemen.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/buried-christian-empire-in-yemen-casts-new-light-on-early-islam-a-874048.html

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"Archeologists are studying the ruins of a buried Christian empire in the highlands of Yemen. The sites have sparked a number of questions about the early history of Islam. Was there once a church in Mecca?"


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Re: "Buried Christian Empire Casts New Light on Early Islam"
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2013, 12:28:10 PM »
Do Byzantine Orthodox commemorate the Martyrs of Najran? They're on the Ethiopian Orthodox calendar if I'm not mistaken, but I haven't come across them on the Russian or Greek calendars...

Yemen had a Arabic-Jewish King, named Dhu Nuwas, who was not known for being friendly towards Byzantines and other Christians. The Ethiopians fought him when they invaded Yemen in 525.
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Re: "Buried Christian Empire Casts New Light on Early Islam"
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2013, 01:46:52 PM »
Do Byzantine Orthodox commemorate the Martyrs of Najran? They're on the Ethiopian Orthodox calendar if I'm not mistaken, but I haven't come across them on the Russian or Greek calendars...

According to the Syriac Orthodox Church, the majority of the Christians of Najran were Syriac Orthodox, so I would think that they're also on the SOC calendar, too. Never heard of any mention of them among the Greeks or Russians, though.

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Re: "Buried Christian Empire Casts New Light on Early Islam"
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2013, 02:21:31 PM »
According to Muslim sources (Tabari), the Trinity worshiped by the Christians of Najran consisted of the Father (Allah), Mother (Mary), and Son (Jesus). Those Christians allegedly had a theological debate with Muhammad and contended that Jesus was the Son of Allah because He was the only human to be born without a father and speak in the cradle (Arabic Gospel of Infancy?).

http://answering-islam.org/authors/masihiyyen/jesus_miracles_quran2a.html
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