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« on: December 24, 2012, 06:35:59 PM » |
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I find myself liking and co-operating with Reformed Protestant Christians - If I can develop a spiritual ethos then form a doctrinal belief system that really works in terms of Reformed Protestant Christianity.
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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2012, 09:38:23 PM » |
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I find myself liking and co-operating with Reformed Protestant Christians - If I can develop a spiritual ethos then form a doctrinal belief system that really works in terms of Reformed Protestant Christianity.
Ummm, is there any common ground between Orthodoxy and Reformed Protestants? |
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2012, 09:44:57 PM » |
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Are Reformed Protestants those who have stopped protesting or just changed the way they protest? (I'm seriously curious.)
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2012, 10:23:50 PM » |
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O Master Lord our God...who are wondrous in glory; who keeps his covenant and his mercy to them who love him with all their heart; who has given us redemption...through his only-begotten son, Jesus Christ...the life of everyone, the help of those who flee to him, the hope of those who cry to him.
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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2012, 08:15:10 AM » |
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They are easier to talk to (from my experience) than fundamentalists who are so emotional based in their theology.
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2012, 06:10:09 PM » |
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No offense, but reformed Protestantism--more specifically, Calvinism--is probably the worst filth the bear the name of Christianity that has ever been born. There is no common ground between us at all except for the mere name "Christian". The only good thing about them though is that they are at least somewhat more open to theological dialogue (whereas Evangelical-Fundamentalists are more emotionally driven), however, even then I have noticed that reformed Protestants of the Calvinist camp can be very stubborn and militantly won't budge at all, even when you've made a point. Why not have dialogue with Lutherans? They are easily the best Protestants there are who are probably the most openminded and honest out of them all. Methodists can also be some pretty good people sometimes--very humble from my experience--and they also have a concept of salvation that is somewhat similar to Orthodox Theosis.
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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2012, 06:12:49 PM » |
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I find myself liking and co-operating with Reformed Protestant Christians - If I can develop a spiritual ethos then form a doctrinal belief system that really works in terms of Reformed Protestant Christianity.
Works for me bro. Fist bump?  |
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2012, 07:44:11 PM » |
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Hello, WPM (fear not, I know who you are  ) I would be careful about jumping around to different belief systems so quickly and easily. It will only add more confusion into your life. I know that you cannot travel easily, so I would recommend emailing the priest at St Barbara for some guidance. He will be happy to help you. Orthodoxy has been your home, and I really hope that you allow it to remain your home. I continue to pray for you, my friend. |
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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2012, 09:19:49 PM » |
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No offense, but reformed Protestantism--more specifically, Calvinism--is probably the worst filth the bear the name of Christianity that has ever been born. There is no common ground between us at all except for the mere name "Christian". The only good thing about them though is that they are at least somewhat more open to theological dialogue (whereas Evangelical-Fundamentalists are more emotionally driven), however, even then I have noticed that reformed Protestants of the Calvinist camp can be very stubborn and militantly won't budge at all, even when you've made a point. Why not have dialogue with Lutherans? They are easily the best Protestants there are who are probably the most openminded and honest out of them all. Methodists can also be some pretty good people sometimes--very humble from my experience--and they also have a concept of salvation that is somewhat similar to Orthodox Theosis.
It depends on the type of Calvinist you speak with. Some are very stubborn, especially from the more fundamentalist sects of Reformed Christianity. However, generally, Classically Reformed Protestants (I'm excluding big, mainstream groups like the PC(USA) and others) are rather knowledgeable, much moreso than the post-modern mainline churches as well as the emotional evangelicals you mention. While Calvinism is a condemned heresy, I have an intellectual respect for Reformed Protestants that I give to no other Protestant group, on either side of the spectrum. They're intellectual, internally consistent and honest. Really more than I can say for any other Christian sect from after 1517 (except, probably, for Anglo-Catholics, who are the dearest Protestants to my heart). You may say I'm biased (I'm sure I am), but it's so true that many Reformed Protestants become Orthodox. I was one, and I've met a great deal of former Calvinists since I converted, and I think that's in large part due to the intellectual integrity common among many Calvinists that allows them to analyze an argument logically and follow through. This is much less likely to happen in the mind of a mainline or evangelical Christian. |
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2012, 01:16:16 AM » |
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It depends on the type of Calvinist you speak with. Some are very stubborn, especially from the more fundamentalist sects of Reformed Christianity. However, generally, Classically Reformed Protestants (I'm excluding big, mainstream groups like the PC(USA) and others) are rather knowledgeable, much moreso than the post-modern mainline churches as well as the emotional evangelicals you mention.
While Calvinism is a condemned heresy, I have an intellectual respect for Reformed Protestants that I give to no other Protestant group, on either side of the spectrum. They're intellectual, internally consistent and honest. Really more than I can say for any other Christian sect from after 1517 (except, probably, for Anglo-Catholics, who are the dearest Protestants to my heart).
You may say I'm biased (I'm sure I am), but it's so true that many Reformed Protestants become Orthodox. I was one, and I've met a great deal of former Calvinists since I converted, and I think that's in large part due to the intellectual integrity common among many Calvinists that allows them to analyze an argument logically and follow through. This is much less likely to happen in the mind of a mainline or evangelical Christian. While I was never Reformed, I agree with this completely. Over the past year I've spent quite a bit of time around educated Reformed Protestants and I have a great deal of respect for them, even through the disagreements. Some do, perhaps as the result of intellectual pride, end up condescending toward anything not Reformed, but most are pretty respectful of others. Greatly prefer them over the Baptists, Nazarenes, and other various evangelicals that I grew up around. |
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WPM
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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2012, 01:49:24 PM » |
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Hello, WPM (fear not, I know who you are ) I would be careful about jumping around to different belief systems so quickly and easily. It will only add more confusion into your life. I know that you cannot travel easily, so I would recommend emailing the priest at St Barbara for some guidance. He will be happy to help you. Orthodoxy has been your home, and I really hope that you allow it to remain your home. I continue to pray for you, my friend. Well, thanks at least my identity on the internet forums is finally converging with IRL. Real Life |
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