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« on: December 19, 2012, 12:03:20 PM »

Apparently some Russian Orthodox churches consider beer to be a Lenten beverage due to it's being "liquid bread".  

Some traditions just seem so right, don't they?  !   Cool   
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2012, 12:21:33 PM »

Was it lenten beer in 19th century Russia?
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2012, 12:36:52 PM »

Was it lenten beer in 19th century Russia?
maybe, I read it on a nameless rival orthodox board.   From that conversation...
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Of course, drinking most Russian beers can be considered a form of penance to begin with. A Russian sent some Russian beer to a lab to have it analyzed to find out why it tasted so bad. A couple of weeks later he received a letter that read: "Dear Sir, we are sorry to inform you that your horse has diabetes ..."
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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2012, 01:24:00 PM »


Rival?  There is no rival to this board, as none come even close!  Wink

I think what you are referring to is "kvas" which is not exactly beer.
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2012, 02:23:02 PM »

Beer is bread.  The calendar shows grapes, not grain.  If grain were forbidden so would bread.  If the fast were only about being miserable then I could accept that grapes = all alcohol.  But it's not.  The fast is about building us up spiritually.  The reason we fast from certain foods - such as spam and big macs, but are allowed others like swordfish steaks and lobster - is to make us learn discipline and obey rules, even if we cannot understand them.  I cannot believe that the Holy Church in its wisdom would ever take away something as life-affirming and love-kindling as beer.
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2012, 02:46:56 PM »

Beer is bread.  The calendar shows grapes, not grain.  If grain were forbidden so would bread.  If the fast were only about being miserable then I could accept that grapes = all alcohol.  But it's not.  The fast is about building us up spiritually.  The reason we fast from certain foods - such as spam and big macs, but are allowed others like swordfish steaks and lobster - is to make us learn discipline and obey rules, even if we cannot understand them.  I cannot believe that the Holy Church in its wisdom would ever take away something as life-affirming and love-kindling as beer.

Amen brother.  I have no idea if you are serious or not but agree with every syllable!   Smiley   I actually had a cold pint by the fireplace in my favorite pub on a non-grape day during this fast.  I could have asked my godmother if our local church allowed 'liquid bread' but decided to wait for a while and enjoy the ambiguity.  I feel bad about not caring enough to check but not about the beer so I'll probably confess both (and a few other things!)
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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2012, 02:55:56 PM »

Beer is bread.  The calendar shows grapes, not grain.  If grain were forbidden so would bread.  If the fast were only about being miserable then I could accept that grapes = all alcohol.  But it's not.  The fast is about building us up spiritually.  The reason we fast from certain foods - such as spam and big macs, but are allowed others like swordfish steaks and lobster - is to make us learn discipline and obey rules, even if we cannot understand them.  I cannot believe that the Holy Church in its wisdom would ever take away something as life-affirming and love-kindling as beer.

Amen brother.  I have no idea if you are serious or not but agree with every syllable!   Smiley   I actually had a cold pint by the fireplace in my favorite pub on a non-grape day during this fast.  I could have asked my godmother if our local church allowed 'liquid bread' but decided to wait for a while and enjoy the ambiguity.  I feel bad about not caring enough to check but not about the beer so I'll probably confess both (and a few other things!)

Dead serious with a touch of humour.    Grin
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