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« on: December 15, 2012, 12:46:07 AM »

This is sort of something that does not make much sense to me. I oftentimes hear people state--dogmatically in fact--that Jesus Christ NEVER violated the law of the Old Testament but adhered to it in its fullest and through His Crucifixion and then Resurrection became the completion to it. But after reading the Gospels, it seems to me like He did in fact violate the Old Testament law in several instances--as the Pharisees made known to Him. Even though the Pharisees may have been self-righteous and been accusing Him with an improper disposition of being more concerned with externals than internals, they were still correct in several cases that He did in fact break the OT law. He worked on the Sabbath, ate with unwashed hands and let the adulteress go free. How do we understand these things? It would seem He broke the OT law--even if He had a good heart.
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2012, 12:59:32 AM »

This is sort of something that does not make much sense to me. I oftentimes hear people state--dogmatically in fact--that Jesus Christ NEVER violated the law of the Old Testament but adhered to it in its fullest and through His Crucifixion and then Resurrection became the completion to it. But after reading the Gospels, it seems to me like He did in fact violate the Old Testament law in several instances--as the Pharisees made known to Him. Even though the Pharisees may have been self-righteous and been accusing Him with an improper disposition of being more concerned with externals than internals, they were still correct in several cases that He did in fact break the OT law. He worked on the Sabbath, ate with unwashed hands and let the adulteress go free. How do we understand these things? It would seem He broke the OT law--even if He had a good heart.
It is Jesus Christ who gave the Law to Moses to begin with.
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2012, 01:01:09 AM »

Jesus Christ IS the Law.
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2012, 08:38:25 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2012, 12:44:31 PM »

you should read The Epistle of Barnabas, it is not inspired Word of God or anything but I believe it is considered to be acceptable reading by the EOC.  The argument is valid 95% of the OT Laws are complete allegory... for example, prohibition of eating pork means do not pray to God when you need something but ignore Him when you are "doing fine" because pigs squeal when they are hungry but are silent when they are full.  I'd say it is a legitimate argument and it certainly would explain a lot of things like did He break any OT Laws (no)
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2012, 02:34:09 PM »

It is Jesus Christ who gave the Law to Moses to begin with.
He said to the healed person to take up his pallet and walk, even though it was unlawful to carry things on the Sabbath. Moses once killed a man for carrying wood on the Sabbath. Jesus' explanation for his command to the healed man was to show "that the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath."
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2012, 10:51:55 PM »

<< Matthew 5 >>
   
The Fulfillment of the Law

17“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Murder

21“You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not murder,a and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ 22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brotherb will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, ‘Raca,c’ is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

23“Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.

25“Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. 26I tell you the truth, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.d

Adultery

27“You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’e 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

Divorce

31“It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’f 32But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

Oaths

33“Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.’ 34But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37Simply let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.

An Eye for an Eye

38“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’g 39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

Love for Enemies

43“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighborh and hate your enemy.’ 44But I tell you: Love your enemiesi and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
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