Author Topic: Different between compare and contrast?  (Read 1803 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline walter1234

  • High Elder
  • ******
  • Posts: 928
Different between compare and contrast?
« on: December 14, 2012, 07:19:53 AM »
1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B

2) Contrast A and B :
Only mention the difference of A and B


Am I Correct?
« Last Edit: December 14, 2012, 07:20:06 AM by walter1234 »

Offline jmbejdl

  • Count-Palatine James the Spurious of Giggleswick on the Naze
  • OC.net guru
  • *******
  • Posts: 1,480
  • Great Martyr St. John the New of Suceava
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2012, 08:18:36 AM »
1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B

2) Contrast A and B :
Only mention the difference of A and B


Am I Correct?

Yes.
We owe greater gratitude to those who humble us, wrong us, and douse us with venom, than to those who nurse us with honour and sweet words, or feed us with tasty food and confections, for bile is the best medicine for our soul. - Elder Paisios of Mount Athos

Offline walter1234

  • High Elder
  • ******
  • Posts: 928
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2012, 09:09:41 AM »
I see! Thanks! :)
« Last Edit: December 14, 2012, 09:10:12 AM by walter1234 »

Offline Jetavan

  • Argumentum ad australopithecum
  • Taxiarches
  • **********
  • Posts: 6,580
  • Barlaam and Josaphat
    • The Mystical Theology
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2012, 09:58:35 AM »
1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B

2) Contrast A and B :
Only mention the difference of A and B


Am I Correct?
Nice.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2012, 09:59:21 AM by Jetavan »
If you will, you can become all flame.
Extra caritatem nulla salus.
In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness".
सर्वभूतहित
Ἄνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας
"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas Gandhi
Y dduw bo'r diolch.

Offline walter1234

  • High Elder
  • ******
  • Posts: 928
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2012, 07:07:57 AM »
Quote
Compare and contrast A and B.

How to answer this quoted question?
« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 07:08:11 AM by walter1234 »

Offline orthonorm

  • Hoplitarches
  • *************
  • Posts: 17,275
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2012, 08:37:43 AM »
Quote
Compare and contrast A and B.

How to answer this quoted question?

I almost posted about this in this thread but decided not to complicate things for your. Let me get ready to post . . .
« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 08:38:05 AM by orthonorm »
If you have PMed me, the mods have taken my ability to PM away. Please see my email if you wish to contact me during my time of trial.

Offline orthonorm

  • Hoplitarches
  • *************
  • Posts: 17,275
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2012, 08:39:35 AM »
1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B

2) Contrast A and B :
Only mention the difference of A and B


Am I Correct?

Walter, you are not incorrect, however I think a more robust definition for your usage would be (using your formula):

1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing the similarity.

1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing the difference.

We even have the phrase in English compare and contrast x and y. Those words exists in a degree of opposition for a reason in that phrase.

Quote
Compare and Contrast



http://xkcd.com/1026/
« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 08:40:57 AM by orthonorm »
If you have PMed me, the mods have taken my ability to PM away. Please see my email if you wish to contact me during my time of trial.

Offline walter1234

  • High Elder
  • ******
  • Posts: 928
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2012, 08:52:57 AM »

Quote
Compare and Contrast



http://xkcd.com/1026/
I cannot understand this table... Can you explain more about it ?
« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 08:55:24 AM by walter1234 »

Offline orthonorm

  • Hoplitarches
  • *************
  • Posts: 17,275
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2012, 09:14:29 AM »

Quote
Compare and Contrast



http://xkcd.com/1026/
I cannot understand this table... Can you explain more about it ?

It is a "joke".

There is a famous line from Shakespeare: Shall i compare thee to a summer's day?

The joke here is that someone is taking that line literally and comparing and contrasting "thee" (the one person is in love with) with a summer's day.
If you have PMed me, the mods have taken my ability to PM away. Please see my email if you wish to contact me during my time of trial.

Offline walter1234

  • High Elder
  • ******
  • Posts: 928
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2012, 09:21:59 AM »
I still cannot understand what the difference is between 'compare and contrast 'and  'compare' ....
« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 09:25:27 AM by walter1234 »

Offline orthonorm

  • Hoplitarches
  • *************
  • Posts: 17,275
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2012, 09:57:21 AM »
I still cannot understand what the difference is between 'compare and contrast 'and  'compare' ....

Walter this is where language gets hazy.

Compare and contrast can mean exactly what compare does or for that matter what contrast does.

Compare and contrast is often a "prompt" for students in school to compare and contrast two things (the joke above is playing off that connotation in American English, I can't speak to other variants of English).

Rarely are you going to come across compare and contrast in day to day English.

Just know that compare and contrast are often effectively synonyms which differ to whether the relation is more one of difference or similarity (of course you are going to find them listed as antonyms in most basic English references).

You first formulation of comparing and contrasting compare and contrast works just fine; however, the usage is more nuanced.

« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 09:57:55 AM by orthonorm »
If you have PMed me, the mods have taken my ability to PM away. Please see my email if you wish to contact me during my time of trial.

Offline walter1234

  • High Elder
  • ******
  • Posts: 928
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2012, 10:48:22 AM »
1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their similarity.

2) contrast  A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their difference.

3)compare and contrast A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their similarity and difference at the same time.



Am I correct?
« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 10:49:13 AM by walter1234 »

Online Iconodule

  • Uranopolitan
  • Taxiarches
  • **********
  • Posts: 7,446
  • "My god is greater."
  • Faith: Orthodox Christian
  • Jurisdiction: Ecumenical Patriarchate (ACROD)
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2012, 11:19:23 AM »
Walter- I'd say you have as good a grasp of it as anyone does. Don't worry too much about it. If you ever think English is too confusing, just remember:

妈妈骑马,
马慢,
妈妈骂马。

Offline walter1234

  • High Elder
  • ******
  • Posts: 928
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2012, 11:59:12 AM »
Mother rides a house,
The house is slow,
Mother blames the house.

How does this relate to compare, contrast , compare and contrast?
« Last Edit: December 18, 2012, 11:59:35 AM by walter1234 »

Offline walter1234

  • High Elder
  • ******
  • Posts: 928
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2012, 01:04:26 PM »
correct:
house= horse   ;D

Offline OrthoNoob

  • OC.net guru
  • *******
  • Posts: 1,157
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2012, 03:42:52 PM »
Mother rides a house,
The house is slow,
Mother blames the house.

How does this relate to compare, contrast , compare and contrast?

I don't see that it does, even with your correction.
http://avengingredhand.wordpress.com -- My blog

'These words I, Leo, have set down for love and as a safeguard of the Orthodox Faith'

Offline orthonorm

  • Hoplitarches
  • *************
  • Posts: 17,275
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2012, 04:07:46 PM »
Mother rides a house,
The house is slow,
Mother blames the house.

How does this relate to compare, contrast , compare and contrast?

I don't see that it does, even with your correction.

Walter- I'd say you have as good a grasp of it as anyone does. Don't worry too much about it. If you ever think English is too confusing, just remember:

妈妈骑马,
马慢,
妈妈骂马。

I see why people think I am cryptic.
If you have PMed me, the mods have taken my ability to PM away. Please see my email if you wish to contact me during my time of trial.

Offline walter1234

  • High Elder
  • ******
  • Posts: 928
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2012, 05:43:57 AM »
Walter- I'd say you have as good a grasp of it as anyone does. Don't worry too much about it. If you ever think English is too confusing, just remember:

妈妈骑马,
马慢,
妈妈骂马。

What translation website are you using?

Offline walter1234

  • High Elder
  • ******
  • Posts: 928
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2012, 06:53:39 AM »
1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their similarity.

2) contrast  A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their difference.

3)compare and contrast A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their similarity and difference at the same time.



Am I correct?

Online Iconodule

  • Uranopolitan
  • Taxiarches
  • **********
  • Posts: 7,446
  • "My god is greater."
  • Faith: Orthodox Christian
  • Jurisdiction: Ecumenical Patriarchate (ACROD)
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2012, 07:53:33 AM »
Walter- I'd say you have as good a grasp of it as anyone does. Don't worry too much about it. If you ever think English is too confusing, just remember:

妈妈骑马,
马慢,
妈妈骂马。

What translation website are you using?

It's not a translation. In Mandarin, it sounds like this: Māmā qí mǎ. Mǎ màn, māmā mà mǎ

Offline walter1234

  • High Elder
  • ******
  • Posts: 928
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2012, 08:22:04 AM »
This is Tongue twister.

I still do not understand how these are related to the explanation of the difference of compare, contrast, compare and contrast. Can you explain a little bit more about it?





( By the way, Mandarin is not the first language of Hong Kong people. We do not use Mandarin to communicate with each other. We ususally speak Cantonese. We only know a little about Mandarin.)
« Last Edit: December 19, 2012, 08:29:05 AM by walter1234 »

Offline orthonorm

  • Hoplitarches
  • *************
  • Posts: 17,275
Re: Different between compare and contrast?
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2012, 08:38:51 AM »
1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their similarity.

2) contrast  A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their difference.

3)compare and contrast A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their similarity and difference at the same time.



Am I correct?

As Iconodule said, you got as good a hang of it as you are going to for now.
If you have PMed me, the mods have taken my ability to PM away. Please see my email if you wish to contact me during my time of trial.