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« on: December 14, 2012, 07:19:53 AM »

1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B

2) Contrast A and B :
Only mention the difference of A and B


Am I Correct?
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2012, 08:18:36 AM »

1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B

2) Contrast A and B :
Only mention the difference of A and B


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Yes.
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2012, 09:09:41 AM »

I see! Thanks! Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2012, 09:58:35 AM »

1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B

2) Contrast A and B :
Only mention the difference of A and B


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Nice.
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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2012, 07:07:57 AM »

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Compare and contrast A and B.

How to answer this quoted question?
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2012, 08:37:43 AM »

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Compare and contrast A and B.

How to answer this quoted question?

I almost posted about this in this thread but decided not to complicate things for your. Let me get ready to post . . .
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2012, 08:39:35 AM »

1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B

2) Contrast A and B :
Only mention the difference of A and B


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Walter, you are not incorrect, however I think a more robust definition for your usage would be (using your formula):

1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing the similarity.

1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing the difference.

We even have the phrase in English compare and contrast x and y. Those words exists in a degree of opposition for a reason in that phrase.

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Compare and Contrast



http://xkcd.com/1026/
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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2012, 08:52:57 AM »


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Compare and Contrast



http://xkcd.com/1026/
I cannot understand this table... Can you explain more about it ?
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2012, 09:14:29 AM »


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Compare and Contrast



http://xkcd.com/1026/
I cannot understand this table... Can you explain more about it ?

It is a "joke".

There is a famous line from Shakespeare: Shall i compare thee to a summer's day?

The joke here is that someone is taking that line literally and comparing and contrasting "thee" (the one person is in love with) with a summer's day.
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2012, 09:21:59 AM »

I still cannot understand what the difference is between 'compare and contrast 'and  'compare' ....
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2012, 09:57:21 AM »

I still cannot understand what the difference is between 'compare and contrast 'and  'compare' ....

Walter this is where language gets hazy.

Compare and contrast can mean exactly what compare does or for that matter what contrast does.

Compare and contrast is often a "prompt" for students in school to compare and contrast two things (the joke above is playing off that connotation in American English, I can't speak to other variants of English).

Rarely are you going to come across compare and contrast in day to day English.

Just know that compare and contrast are often effectively synonyms which differ to whether the relation is more one of difference or similarity (of course you are going to find them listed as antonyms in most basic English references).

You first formulation of comparing and contrasting compare and contrast works just fine; however, the usage is more nuanced.

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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2012, 10:48:22 AM »

1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their similarity.

2) contrast  A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their difference.

3)compare and contrast A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their similarity and difference at the same time.



Am I correct?
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2012, 11:19:23 AM »

Walter- I'd say you have as good a grasp of it as anyone does. Don't worry too much about it. If you ever think English is too confusing, just remember:

妈妈骑马,
马慢,
妈妈骂马。
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2012, 11:59:12 AM »

Mother rides a house,
The house is slow,
Mother blames the house.

How does this relate to compare, contrast , compare and contrast?
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2012, 01:04:26 PM »

correct:
house= horse   Grin
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2012, 03:42:52 PM »

Mother rides a house,
The house is slow,
Mother blames the house.

How does this relate to compare, contrast , compare and contrast?

I don't see that it does, even with your correction.
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2012, 04:07:46 PM »

Mother rides a house,
The house is slow,
Mother blames the house.

How does this relate to compare, contrast , compare and contrast?

I don't see that it does, even with your correction.

Walter- I'd say you have as good a grasp of it as anyone does. Don't worry too much about it. If you ever think English is too confusing, just remember:

妈妈骑马,
马慢,
妈妈骂马。

I see why people think I am cryptic.
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2012, 05:43:57 AM »

Walter- I'd say you have as good a grasp of it as anyone does. Don't worry too much about it. If you ever think English is too confusing, just remember:

妈妈骑马,
马慢,
妈妈骂马。

What translation website are you using?
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2012, 06:53:39 AM »

1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their similarity.

2) contrast  A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their difference.

3)compare and contrast A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their similarity and difference at the same time.



Am I correct?
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2012, 07:53:33 AM »

Walter- I'd say you have as good a grasp of it as anyone does. Don't worry too much about it. If you ever think English is too confusing, just remember:

妈妈骑马,
马慢,
妈妈骂马。

What translation website are you using?

It's not a translation. In Mandarin, it sounds like this: Māmā qí mǎ. Mǎ màn, māmā mà mǎ
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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2012, 08:22:04 AM »

This is Tongue twister.

I still do not understand how these are related to the explanation of the difference of compare, contrast, compare and contrast. Can you explain a little bit more about it?





( By the way, Mandarin is not the first language of Hong Kong people. We do not use Mandarin to communicate with each other. We ususally speak Cantonese. We only know a little about Mandarin.)
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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2012, 08:38:51 AM »

1) Compare A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their similarity.

2) contrast  A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their difference.

3)compare and contrast A and B:
Talk about the similarity and difference of A and B while emphasizing their similarity and difference at the same time.



Am I correct?

As Iconodule said, you got as good a hang of it as you are going to for now.
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