Coffee

[Marc1152]

I am starting a thread about drinking coffee.

I have become coffee motivated lately and I was hoping there are others here who would like to geek out on Coffee.

How do you brew it?
What brands do you like ? What is your favorite?
Do you grind the beans yourself? What kind of grinder?
Do you know how to "Taste" coffee ?
What is your opinion of Starbucks?
How do you substitute for dairy during the fasts? Non-dairy creamer, nothing?

If your house was on fire, would you first grab the dog or your French Press?

Etc.

[JamesRottnek]

I am starting a thread about drinking coffee.

I have become coffee motivated lately and I was hoping there are others here who would like to geek out on Coffee.

How do you brew it?
What brands do you like ? What is your favorite?
Do you grind the beans yourself? What kind of grinder?
Do you know how to "Taste" coffee ?
What is your opinion of Starbucks?
How do you substitute for dairy during the fasts? Non-dairy creamer, nothing?

If your house was on fire, would you first grab the dog or your French Press?

Etc.

I only have the time/desire at the moment to answer one of these: a good substitute for creamer is honey.

[Asteriktos]

What is best thing to do/buy if someone likes coffee but you don't have a coffee maker?

[sheenj]

What is best thing to do/buy if someone likes coffee but you don't have a coffee maker?

A coffee maker.

[Asteriktos]

What is best thing to do/buy if someone likes coffee but you don't have a coffee maker?

A coffee maker.

I don't have money for one. Not this month anyway.

[Marc1152]

What is best thing to do/buy if someone likes coffee but you don't have a coffee maker?

Get a French Press. It makes the best tasking coffee in any event. It is very cheap, nonelectric and you can store it in a cabinet.
It just makes one or two cups at a time. There are lots of Youtubes about how to use one.

[LizaSymonenko]

You beat me to it!

I use a coffee press....the only issue is getting the grounds out, without letting them go down the sink.

[Marc1152]

What is best thing to do/buy if someone likes coffee but you don't have a coffee maker?

A coffee maker.

I don't have money for one. Not this month anyway.

French Press is around $20.00.

[sheenj]

What's your take on flavored coffee? Yea or nay?

[stpaulphilip]

I am starting a thread about drinking coffee.

I have become coffee motivated lately and I was hoping there are others here who would like to geek out on Coffee.

How do you brew it?
- In a Bun coffee pot
What brands do you like ? What is your favorite?
- Starbucks French Roast (dark)
Do you grind the beans yourself? What kind of grinder?
- I have a timed grinder for different taste settings; auto drip, espresso, etc.
Do you know how to "Taste" coffee ?
- Most asuredly
What is your opinion of Starbucks?
- Me likey
How do you substitute for dairy during the fasts? Non-dairy creamer, nothing?
- Creamer is for people who don't like coffee
If your house was on fire, would you first grab the dog or your French Press?
- I don't have a French Press, so I'd grab my dog
Etc.

[simplygermain]

What is best thing to do/buy if someone likes coffee but you don't have a coffee maker?

Yerba Mate' - matine is similar to caffeine. It's a South American herbal tea

[ialmisry]

Like any true addict, I don't usually drink it for the taste.

[genesisone]

You beat me to it!

I use a coffee press....the only issue is getting the grounds out, without letting them go down the sink.

Go to the dollar store and by a strainer that fits your sink drain. The grounds make good compost.

[Michał Kalina]

What is best thing to do/buy if someone likes coffee but you don't have a coffee maker?

Yerba Mate' - matine is similar to caffeine. It's a South American herbal tea

Cold mate is excellent.

[genesisone]

What is best thing to do/buy if someone likes coffee but you don't have a coffee maker?

Yerba Mate' - matine is similar to caffeine. It's a South American herbal tea

I enjoy yerba myself (note my present avatar  ), but the taste doesn't always appeal to North Americans. It's one of those things you'll either love or you'll hate. But there are many ways to prepare it.

[genesisone]

What is best thing to do/buy if someone likes coffee but you don't have a coffee maker?

Yerba Mate' - matine is similar to caffeine. It's a South American herbal tea

Cold mate is excellent.

Cold mate is known as tereré. You can spice it up with fresh herbs (I like any of basil, mint, lemon balm, etc.) or a bit of lemon. Really just about anything that appeals. And best served in a proper guampa (cow's horn).

[LizaSymonenko]

For best tasting "black" coffee....it has to McDonalds! 

Sorry...it's got this nice mellow flavor...not burnt, nor bitter....just yummy.  Needs no additives.

Starbucks is always burnt and has a bitter aftertaste...you almost have to add something to it.  Even my hair smells like smoke after sitting in there for a while.

[Justin Kolodziej]

Starbucks is always burnt and has a bitter aftertaste...you almost have to add something to it.  Even my hair smells like smoke after sitting in there for a while.

I'm with you on the Starbucks. Even their "blond" roast somehow tastes burnt!  Almost as bad as the Maxwell House on the vending machines at work 

[peacenprayer]

I am starting a thread about drinking coffee.

I have become coffee motivated lately and I was hoping there are others here who would like to geek out on Coffee.

How do you brew it?
What brands do you like ? What is your favorite?
Do you grind the beans yourself? What kind of grinder?
Do you know how to "Taste" coffee ?
What is your opinion of Starbucks?
How do you substitute for dairy during the fasts? Non-dairy creamer, nothing?

If your house was on fire, would you first grab the dog or your French Press?

Etc.

1) The first time I tryed Greek style coffee my brain expolded. If I can make it like that I do. Otherwise I believe the percolator is the way to go.
2) Presidents Choice is my favorite pre-ground coffee, Kicking Horse for beans.
3) I prefer to grind my own, fresher coffee tastes better. I have a Black & Decker grinder.
4)I don't know if I do. I smell its, sip it, take a drink and savour the after flavor, give my self a pat on the back for a job well done. I like my coffee bold and strong.
5)Bah to the stuff I get at the counter, but there beans, while expensive are reeeeally nice. Give me a bag of Yukon Bold bean and you have a friend for life.
6) I needn't worry about that. I drink it black. Also I'm lactose intolerant. I have no tolerance for lactose...
7) I'd die in the fire trying to make my choice.

Coffee is an art. I'm still working on perfecting it. I looove coffee.

[peacenprayer]

For best tasting "black" coffee....it has to McDonalds! 

Sorry...it's got this nice mellow flavor...not burnt, nor bitter....just yummy.  Needs no additives.

Starbucks is always burnt and has a bitter aftertaste...you almost have to add something to it.  Even my hair smells like smoke after sitting in there for a while.

I have to agree. I was really surprised when I tried their coffee for the first time. Its excellent.

[augustin717]

For decent coffee one has to go overseas pretty much. If they are in the US I mean. American coffee is over-roasted and so, bitter.

[KBN1]

How do you brew it?
-Either a drip pot with an insulated thermos (hot plates ruin coffee in a matter of minutes) or with a french press.

What brands do you like ? What is your favorite?
-I support local roasters that buy fair trade, organic beans.  Peace Coffee and L’Etoile du Nord is usually what I go with.  Peace Coffee's Peruvian is what I currently have.

Do you grind the beans yourself? What kind of grinder?
-Yes.  Burr grinder.

Do you know how to "Taste" coffee?
-Yes.

What is your opinion of Starbucks?
-Starburnts.

How do you substitute for dairy during the fasts? Non-dairy creamer, nothing?
-I don't like dairy cream with my coffee.  While I usually drink it black I will occasionally add some coconut cream.

[pmpn8rGPT]

I tried Yerba Mate' the other day for the first time and I loved it

-I always make it in my espresso maker at home or Greek style
-I don't usually have time to focus on taste but I like San Francisco bay espresso
-I always grind it.  I have a Cappresso Cool grinder
-once again I don't usually have time to focus on taste but sometimes when I have time on Saturday mornings I do like savouring it, I haven't mastered the official "tasting" that the real enthusiasts at work keep talking about
-starbucks is okay but only when I forget to make my own, I would never drink it if I had the option (long commute to work)
-I don't put cream or sugar in my coffee anyways so no substitution needed, however people keep insisting that honey is a good substitute for both
- I would grab my [espresso maker], my dog is smart enough to get out by himself (but I would grab my dog if he really did need help)

[Marc1152]

There is a very cool show on the Travel Channel tonight ( Tuesday),"Dangerous Grounds" with Todd Carmichael who is a famous coffee roaster ( owner of a chain of coffee shops). Tonight he is going to Ethiopia where coffee drinking began.

I shall make a cup and get comfy. It's on at 9 pm Eastern and there is usually a repeat on at 8 Pm.

http://www.travelchannel.com/tv-shows/dangerous-grounds/articles/q-and-a-with-todd-carmichael

[Marc1152]

- I would grab my [espresso maker], my dog is smart enough to get out by himself (but I would grab my dog if he really did need help)


Exactly ! You are a reasonable person.

[pmpn8rGPT]

There is a very cool show on the Travel Channel tonight ( Tuesday),"Dangerous Grounds" with Todd Carmichael who is a famous coffee roaster ( owner of a chain of coffee shops). Tonight he is going to Ethiopia where coffee drinking began.

I shall make a cup and get comfy. It's on at 9 pm Eastern and there is usually a repeat on at 8 Pm.

http://www.travelchannel.com/tv-shows/dangerous-grounds/articles/q-and-a-with-todd-carmichael

ah, thanks for reminding me...

[Michał Kalina]

I tried Yerba Mate' the other day for the first time and I loved it

I hate it hot but I love it cold.

[pmpn8rGPT]

I tried Yerba Mate' the other day for the first time and I loved it

I hate it hot but I love it cold.

I tried it cold, I'll have to try it hot next time

[quietmorning]

I am starting a thread about drinking coffee.

I have become coffee motivated lately and I was hoping there are others here who would like to geek out on Coffee.

How do you brew it?

Either by drip (Cuisinart with thermal carafe) or press - (completely due to my husband's patience)

What brands do you like ? What is your favorite?

I love the African blends.

Do you grind the beans yourself? What kind of grinder?

Cuisenart grinder thingy. . .have a hand grinder and the table top grinder. 

Do you know how to "Taste" coffee ?

Taste?  That would slow the caffeine uptake entirely too much.  It should taste good without much of a hassle.  *imo*

What is your opinion of Starbucks?

Over priced.

How do you substitute for dairy during the fasts? Non-dairy creamer, nothing?

I go with nothing. 

If your house was on fire, would you first grab the dog or your French Press?

I have an emergency stash in my car - so the dog. 

Etc.

[Hinterlander]

a lightly roasted Guatemalan is my favorite brew, I wish it was easier to find.

I am a high school teacher and if I didn't drink coffee all day I don't know how I'd survive 100+ students.

I use a french press when camping, Bunn coffee maker in the house (my parents bought me this), black and decker drip in my classroom.  I usually spend 8-10 bucks a pound.  I only use cream/sugar at diners or other times I pick up cheap coffee.

[Fr.Aidan]

"What brands do you like?"

Central Market Dark French Roast (fair trade, etc., etc.), various similar beans, Folger's Black Silk.

"What is your favorite?"

Central Market Dark French Roast. But all kinds of weird volcanic-soil varieties I like. I had some Oaxacan coffee from Mexico I liked. And there is always the Black Silk to fall back on.

"Do you grind the beans yourself? What kind of grinder?"

Yes, usually. I don't know what brand it is, it was a present from an Abbess.

"Do you know how to "Taste" coffee?"

Insert in mouth. Are there more steps?

"What is your opinion of Starbucks?"

Their coffee is always burned, way overpriced, they advocate for gay marriage, which is immoral... opinion of them is pretty low.

"How do you substitute for dairy during the fasts? Non-dairy creamer, nothing?"

I never can make up my mind. Nothing really works in coffee but milk. I like the Coconut Cream creamer pretty well. Most all the creamers contain huge amounts of the toxic waste called "high fructose corn syrup," which is a very serious threat to human health, so you might as well consume toxic, radiated sewage or something. Plus those creamers do generally contain traces of whey derivatives, except for one called MimicCreme, which doesn't taste good, really. Sometimes just do black. It's 95% of the challenge in the Fast, for me.

"If your house was on fire, would you first grab the dog or your French Press?"

N/A. Don't have either in the rectory. I didn't even know what a French press was, until I started reading this thread. I never ground beans, until I got a present of a grinder from a Mother Abbess of our Russian Orthodox Church. She had asked her spiritual father once if it was even proper for a monastic to be drinking coffee, and he told her she was only allowed to drink proper coffee--no "Maxwell House" American nonsense (my words). Eternal be his memory.

[KBN1]

"What brands do you like?"

Central Market Dark French Roast (fair trade, etc., etc.), various similar beans, Folger's Black Silk.

"What is your favorite?"

Central Market Dark French Roast. But all kinds of weird volcanic-soil varieties I like. I had some Oaxacan coffee from Mexico I liked. And there is always the Black Silk to fall back on.

"Do you grind the beans yourself? What kind of grinder?"

Yes, usually. I don't know what brand it is, it was a present from an Abbess.

"Do you know how to "Taste" coffee?"

Insert in mouth. Are there more steps?

"What is your opinion of Starbucks?"

Their coffee is always burned, way overpriced, they advocate for gay marriage, which is immoral... opinion of them is pretty low.

"How do you substitute for dairy during the fasts? Non-dairy creamer, nothing?"

I never can make up my mind. Nothing really works in coffee but milk. I like the Coconut Cream creamer pretty well. Most all the creamers contain huge amounts of the toxic waste called "high fructose corn syrup," which is a very serious threat to human health, so you might as well consume toxic, radiated sewage or something. Plus those creamers do generally contain traces of whey derivatives, except for one called MimicCreme, which doesn't taste good, really. Sometimes just do black. It's 95% of the challenge in the Fast, for me.

"If your house was on fire, would you first grab the dog or your French Press?"

N/A. Don't have either in the rectory. I didn't even know what a French press was, until I started reading this thread. I never ground beans, until I got a present of a grinder from a Mother Abbess of our Russian Orthodox Church. She had asked her spiritual father once if it was even proper for a monastic to be drinking coffee, and he told her she was only allowed to drink proper coffee--no "Maxwell House" American nonsense (my words). Eternal be his memory.

Father, have you ever tried just coconut milk or coconut cream, not the "creamers"?  Something like this:

[Fr.Aidan]

Can't say that I have. Is it good? How good is it? I'm thirsty for... umm... knowledge.

[KBN1]

Can't say that I have. Is it good? How good is it? I'm thirsty for... umm... knowledge.

It is very good.  I wasn't sure that the flavor of coconut would go well in coffee, but it is quite delicious.  I would recommend giving it a try.

[PeterTheAleut]

Coffee... Wakes me up in the morning and makes sure I have to get up from my desk and walk around once or twice an hour in the afternoon, if you know what I mean.

[LizaSymonenko]

Ha ha!  It's good to "walk" around every once in a while... Especially if you have a long drive home.

[JamesR]

I love coffee. It is all I drink ever since I gave up soda and other carbonated drinks. Many people prefer to use the French Press to brew their coffee, however, I find that the French Press oftentimes causes the coffee to come out excessively bold. I don't like a very bold blend. I prefer a medium to low-bold cup of coffee. I personally think that the best way to brew coffee is through a drip-coffee maker. HOWEVER, be sure to buy a non-disposable metal filter, seeing that the disposable paper filters oftentimes leave a nasty flavor in the coffee.

The best coffee? South America--Colombia to be specific--will always reign supreme in my opinion. Colombian coffee is my absolute favorite. I love the medium acidity along with the freshness and bottom-of-the-barrel aftertaste that their beans possess. A really good brand of Colombian coffee that is surprisingly affordable can be found at World Market. I always like to treat myself to this baby for only $6.99.

Starbucks is absolute garbage in my opinion. The quality of their coffee is actually quite mediocre and average at best--despite what they would try to lead you to believe with their pseudo-coffee culture. Plus, it all taste the same to me at Starbucks and is overpriced for their low quality. Duncan Donuts is superior, but ultimately, I prefer to brew my own coffee.

[simplygermain]

Stumptown Roasters . Beans ( a Portland based co.)
Buckmaster French Roast. Beans - found also in the Northwest and a bargain at $11.00/3 lbs.
Absolute favorite and expensive... Jergecheffe from Ethiopia - as an espresso

Ethiopian coffee is the best.

I also like a good Turkish coffee with a cardamom pod.

Creamer.. I use a vanilla soy milk or whole milk. Sometimes at work I'll get a dirty chai.

I fresh grind with a Krupps grinder basic model at home or the big grinder at work. My home coffee maker is a new Mr. Coffee with chlorine filter and mesh screen. I love it. It's an automatic set up with 2 settings for strong or regular and can delay the brew with a digital clock.

At work we pull shots... Stumptown blend at 25 sec. 
usually latte or vanilla soy latte.

Starbucks is overrated, burnt, and typically trains for a snobbish workforce. Plus.. the frappuccino is a powdered mix. Gross! A proper frozen coffee should be a simple medium roast of your choice cold brewed in the fridge. Cold infusion enhances the sweetness so less sugar is needed.

You know, I can't help but feel a little pathetic talking about coffee like this. People are starving in the world, man.

[Fr.Aidan]

Oh, dear, what then about my playing François Couperin ordres on the piano in the youth room all the time? Monks really are not supposed to play musical instruments. Well, at least if you don't do it during Lent and stuff... maybe... oh, who am I kidding? Lord, have mercy.

I have learned more about coffee today than in the previous ten years.

Regarding boldness, coffee can never be too bold. Back in the monastery where I was for 21 years, it would be so strong, I'm never even heard of anyone doing it that way, not before and not since. Now I'm spoiled for life.

[KBN1]

If any of you are near Omaha, Nebraska, Beansmith Roasters has been consistently the best coffee I have ever had.  Just FYI.

[Mivac]

What's your take on flavored coffee? Yea or nay?

Nay.  I am not a big fan of flavored coffee, like it black.  To me, good coffee is revealed when the hairs on the back of your neck stand up as you lift the cup to your lips to drink and you can taste it through it's smell before even taking a sip.

[JamesR]

There is a modern misconception that the quality of a cup of coffee depends on how bold it is, IE, the bolder the cup, the better the coffee. But this is actually a myth that only the pseudo coffee snobs adhere to, thinking that drinking bolder coffee somehow makes them high class. In reality, many true coffee experts actually prefer a medium and even mild blend. Quality is not solely dependent upon the boldness.

[Marc1152]

"What brands do you like?"

Central Market Dark French Roast (fair trade, etc., etc.), various similar beans, Folger's Black Silk.

"What is your favorite?"

Central Market Dark French Roast. But all kinds of weird volcanic-soil varieties I like. I had some Oaxacan coffee from Mexico I liked. And there is always the Black Silk to fall back on.

"Do you grind the beans yourself? What kind of grinder?"

Yes, usually. I don't know what brand it is, it was a present from an Abbess.

"Do you know how to "Taste" coffee?"

Insert in mouth. Are there more steps?

"What is your opinion of Starbucks?"

Their coffee is always burned, way overpriced, they advocate for gay marriage, which is immoral... opinion of them is pretty low.

"How do you substitute for dairy during the fasts? Non-dairy creamer, nothing?"

I never can make up my mind. Nothing really works in coffee but milk. I like the Coconut Cream creamer pretty well. Most all the creamers contain huge amounts of the toxic waste called "high fructose corn syrup," which is a very serious threat to human health, so you might as well consume toxic, radiated sewage or something. Plus those creamers do generally contain traces of whey derivatives, except for one called MimicCreme, which doesn't taste good, really. Sometimes just do black. It's 95% of the challenge in the Fast, for me.

"If your house was on fire, would you first grab the dog or your French Press?"

N/A. Don't have either in the rectory. I didn't even know what a French press was, until I started reading this thread. I never ground beans, until I got a present of a grinder from a Mother Abbess of our Russian Orthodox Church. She had asked her spiritual father once if it was even proper for a monastic to be drinking coffee, and he told her she was only allowed to drink proper coffee--no "Maxwell House" American nonsense (my words). Eternal be his memory.

Do you know how to "Taste" coffee?"

Insert in mouth. Are there more steps?

yup... Coffee Tasting ("cupping") is different than coffee drinking. It is like wine tasting and there are several steps involved.

You pour hot water over the coffee grounds, let it steep. It will form a crust on top which you scrap off. The aroma will then come up when you do that. You then take some up on a spoon and zup it . You sorta inhale it adding air and covering your whole palate. You can then taste the finer notes, if any. Pro coffee tasters then spit it out into a spittoon and go on the the next cup. Otherwise at the end of a long day their heart may explode.

All good Roasters have coffee tasters to look after quality control. It is probably the best job in the whole World.

here is a u tube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QCsOn4-fmg

[Agabus]

I used to work as a barista for a man who was very, very picky about his coffee. The end result was that I can hardly order espresso without tasting how it differs from my old boss' standards (which included how much pressure to the pound you put on the ground beans when tamping them --40 pounds -- and how quickly the coffee ran through -- 24 seconds was optimal). I don't drink espresso at home because a home espresso machine that isn't going to ruin your coffee is way out of my price range.

For my day-to-day consumption, I am not picky. I drink either Community Coffee dark or between roast made in an $8 drip pot.

[Alpo]

The problem with French press is that coffee gets cold fairly quickly. For that reason I'm looking forward for switching my French press to something like this:



That's how Finns used to make coffee before desecration called "Drip Coffee Maker" was born.

Also, coffee shouldn't be ruined with dairy products no matter whether it's lent or not. People who add milk to their coffee should be excommunicated.

[Marc1152]

The problem with French press is that coffee gets cold fairly quickly. For that reason I'm looking forward for switching my French press to something like this:



That's how Finns used to make coffee before desecration called "Drip Coffee Maker" was born.

Also, coffee shouldn't be ruined with dairy products no matter whether it's lent or not. People who add milk to their coffee should be excommunicated.

I saw on Dangerous Grounds last night Ethiopians using a Traditional Pot to make coffee. Maybe the technology is similar. let us know how the Finnish Pot works. I know Finland has the highest coffee consumption in the World

here it is

[JamesR]

What type of sweeteners do you fellows prefer for your coffee? Contrary to what most people say, I actually prefer the powdered non-dairy creamer by Coffeemate. I find that sweeteners like half-n-half or basic milk are actually bad sweeteners because they make your coffee cold, whereas the powder does not.

[theistgal]

I've become very fond of those coffee bags - like tea bags only, er, with coffee inside.

Very convenient & tastes fine if you just want a good basic cup of coffee.

[Marc1152]

What type of sweeteners do you fellows prefer for your coffee? Contrary to what most people say, I actually prefer the powdered non-dairy creamer by Coffeemate. I find that sweeteners like half-n-half or basic milk are actually bad sweeteners because they make your coffee cold, whereas the powder does not.

I actually like CoffeeMate too and use it during the Fast. However during regular times I use Heavy Cream. Plain Milk or Half and Half doesn't do it for me anymore. I also try to watch carbs and full cream has very few.

I admire and look up to people who drink coffee black.. i just cant do it..

Pray for me.

[quietmorning]

Also, coffee shouldn't be ruined with dairy products no matter whether it's lent or not. People who add milk to their coffee should be excommunicated.

 

[JamesR]

I admire and look up to people who drink coffee black.. i just cant do it..

Coffee without sweetener is definitely a challenge. I find that it often can cause an upset stomach when you drink it black because there was no sweetener to break up the acid. Either way, I still will occassionally drink my coffee black when I am in a hurry, but it taste ten times better with a sweetener.

Next question, what type of container/cup do you fellows prefer to drink your coffee in? I always use a metallic container with a rubbarized lid, because it stores the heat inside and is portable so I can drink my coffee on the go. Putting coffee in a glass cup causes it to get cold too fast in my opinion.

[simplygermain]

What type of sweeteners do you fellows prefer for your coffee? Contrary to what most people say, I actually prefer the powdered non-dairy creamer by Coffeemate. I find that sweeteners like half-n-half or basic milk are actually bad sweeteners because they make your coffee cold, whereas the powder does not.

Agave nectar, preferably.

[Marc1152]

I admire and look up to people who drink coffee black.. i just cant do it..

Coffee without sweetener is definitely a challenge. I find that it often can cause an upset stomach when you drink it black because there was no sweetener to break up the acid. Either way, I still will occassionally drink my coffee black when I am in a hurry, but it taste ten times better with a sweetener.

Next question, what type of container/cup do you fellows prefer to drink your coffee in? I always use a metallic container with a rubbarized lid, because it stores the heat inside and is portable so I can drink my coffee on the go. Putting coffee in a glass cup causes it to get cold too fast in my opinion.

I have a big  mug from "Dough Rollers" in Ocean City and also a mug that says "Gettysburg"

 and one the says "Worlds Best Dad" an honor I apparently won last year ( I didnt even know I had been nominated..blush)..

I also have a real Civil War tin cup with lid.. Great in the field I should scrap out the rust and use it at home,,,

As I recall some guys would simply boil up coffee beans in a pot..

Some connoisseurs say paper cups allow the best flavor.

[Marc1152]

okay, time to come out of the closet..as it were.

I LOVE Peets Coffee... They have several cafe's out west but none anywhere near where i live. They began selling it at the local grocery ...

Holy Crapola !  It is by far the best coffee I have ever tasted. If you go on You Tube and type in Peets Coffee you can watch  people raving about it.

As one guy said "It's not watery or wimpy". It has a full taste ( not bitter, no good coffee is bitter. If it is, it means that it is burnt)
It hits 100 notes. Goes down with one taste, hits the tummy with another and has a long finish..One person said drinking Peets is more like having a meal. i don't have to rush back for another cup.

I like what they call "Major Dickanson's Blend" and also their "House Blend". They have others that I will try asap.

They recommend that you buy on-line as coffee beans tend to lose flavor after 10 days. There is no telling how long the coffee has been in transit and then sitting on the shelf in a store.. I havent done that yet but i can notice some diminution of flavor after several days.

Peets is killer good

[Marc1152]

And now the Starbucks question.

I somehow participated in a a taste test years ago when they were first expanding. They were deciding of three differnt blends. i remember not liking the one they settled on even back then.

Starbucks is a good news bad news deal. The good news is that they have introduced a high quality, fresh coffee to the masses who were drinking crap. People drink really really really bad coffee and simply dont know better.

Starbucks is not crap. The bad news is that it is roasted too dark. It is not bitter due to being burnt in the coffee maker which is usually the problem. It is roasted to the second highest level of darkness, which is waaaay too much. If you go to the final level most people wouldn't drink it. Starbucks hurts my stomach. I heard one person call them "Char-bucks"

However, once in awhile I like a cup. Even better, I have been drinking their "Blonde" roast which I assume is not roasted so dark. Much better, actually pretty good.  

[JamesR]

Peet's Coffee is surprisingly good. I would agree with you on Starbucks. I cannot drink their coffee at all. The beans are burnt in my opinion and thus gives the coffee an overwhelmingly bold and charred flavor. As for the quality of the beans they use, I do not know how good it is. But either way, they ruin them through over-roasting. I've also found that fresh grocery store brand coffee beans are also surprisingly very good and refreshing, and economical as well. I think the reason for this is because their beans are usually grown locally and are thus fresher than coffee that has been transported here from somewhere else.

A good, very sweet, light yet flavorful coffee blend for the holidays is Kona coffee from the Hawaiin Isles. It is very sweet, yet rich in flavor and wholesome. Perfect for the holidays if you want something lighter and sweeter. I get mine at World Market. Linky

[Alpo]

I saw on Dangerous Grounds last night Ethiopians using a Traditional Pot to make coffee. Maybe the technology is similar. let us know how the Finnish Pot works. I know Finland has the highest coffee consumption in the World

here it is

We have highest coffee consumption because most of the Finns drink light-roasted coffees with milk so it doesn't taste so stong as most of the other variations of coffee. Also, nowadays just about all drink filtered coffees which makes it even more milder. I used to drink my coffee that way but after getting used to darker roasts without milk the customary Finnish coffee starts to taste somewhat watery and bitter.

Using of Finnish pot is fairly easy. Just add the water to the pot, boil the water on a kitchen stove, add the suitable amount of coffee, let it boil briefly two times and allow it to drew for some time. The result is a bit stronger and smoother than filtered coffee. Not as strong as in many other countries but still better than the filtered version.

The sad thing is that before the Winter War and the Continuation War Finns used to drink darker-roasted coffees just like the Swedes but people switched to lighter variations because it was cheaper and there was lack of everything during and after the Wars. Bloody Soviets, you ruined our coffee.

[Marc1152]

I saw on Dangerous Grounds last night Ethiopians using a Traditional Pot to make coffee. Maybe the technology is similar. let us know how the Finnish Pot works. I know Finland has the highest coffee consumption in the World

here it is

We have highest coffee consumption because most of the Finns drink light-roasted coffees with milk so it doesn't taste so stong as most of the other variations of coffee. Also, nowadays just about all drink filtered coffees which makes it even more milder. I used to drink my coffee that way but after getting used to darker roasts without milk the customary Finnish coffee starts to taste somewhat watery and bitter.

Using of Finnish pot is fairly easy. Just add the water to the pot, boil the water on a kitchen stove, add the suitable amount of coffee, let it boil briefly two times and allow it to drew for some time. The result is a bit stronger and smoother than filtered coffee. Not as strong as in many other countries but still better than the filtered version.

The sad thing is that before the Winter War and the Continuation War Finns used to drink darker-roasted coffees just like the Swedes but people switched to lighter variations because it was cheaper and there was lack of everything during and after the Wars. Bloody Soviets, you ruined our coffee.

The good news is that lighter roasted coffee has more caffeine. You would think it is the other way around, the darker the more caffeinated but the lighter the roasting the less caffeine is lost..

Does a Finish coffee pot have some sort of filter that removes the grounds when you pour it out of the spout?

[Alpo]

Does a Finish coffee pot have some sort of filter that removes the grounds when you pour it out of the spout?

Not that I know. I was born after people had generally neglected use of that kind of pots though. I've seen elderly ladies using small metal sievers for that.

It might be a little troublesome in daily use but I think it's worth the trouble because one gets better coffee and using that kind of pot is fairly nostalgic for Finns. I also use my grandmothers's coffee grinder (like the one below) so I should probably get a proper kind of coffee pot too.

[Orthodox11]

We have highest coffee consumption because most of the Finns drink light-roasted coffees with milk so it doesn't taste so stong as most of the other variations of coffee. Also, nowadays just about all drink filtered coffees which makes it even more milder.

Same with us (who come a close second). I'm not a big fan.

I used to drink my coffee that way but after getting used to darker roasts without milk the customary Finnish coffee starts to taste somewhat watery and bitter.

+1

[JamesR]

I'm looking for a new way to make coffee. What would you fellows recommend? That Finnish coffee pot looks good. Keep in mind I mostly brew South American coffees.

[biro]

Does a Finish coffee pot have some sort of filter that removes the grounds when you pour it out of the spout?

Not that I know. I was born after people had generally neglected use of that kind of pots though. I've seen elderly ladies using small metal sievers for that.

It might be a little troublesome in daily use but I think it's worth the trouble because one gets better coffee and using that kind of pot is fairly nostalgic for Finns. I also use my grandmothers's coffee grinder (like the one below) so I should probably get a proper kind of coffee pot too.

That thing looks like an old-fashioned dresser to me.

[Marc1152]

I'm looking for a new way to make coffee. What would you fellows recommend? That Finnish coffee pot looks good. Keep in mind I mostly brew South American coffees.

I googled around for you and found this: "Equipment Review, Best Coffee Maker" on You tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=wUF3ESN3BUQ&NR=1

The upshot is no drip coffee maker will do once you get used to drinking good coffee.

Your best choices are a French Press or maybe the Finish Pot we have been talking about. I'm going to try it myself.

There is also a futuristic contraption called a Vacuum Coffee maker that looks unnecessary but people claim the coffee is very good.

 Good fresh beans from a good reputable roaster, properly ground,made with fresh water heated to 207 and then brewed in a French Press.

That is pretty much the mountain top unless you want to make espresso. You can also look into roasting beans at home.

[JamesR]

Can you guys recommend me a good Finnish coffee pot for $50 or less? I live in California.

[Kerdy]

I really do enjoy a good cup of coffee.  One of life's little pleasures.

[Fr.Aidan]

I would agree.

But now that I've read this thread, I realize: I have apparently never had a good cup of coffee.

[Cantor Krishnich]

The best coffees are Ethiopian Coffee and Spiced Turkish Coffee. For the wimps who can't take such strong coffee, my favorite "light" coffee is Gevalia.

One day, I'd like to try Kopi Luak...YOLO!

[Marc1152]

The best coffees are Ethiopian Coffee and Spiced Turkish Coffee. For the wimps who can't take such strong coffee, my favorite "light" coffee is Gevalia.

One day, I'd like to try Kopi Luak...YOLO!

I have asked for a pound of Ethiopian Coffee for Christmas.

 Last weeks episode  of Dangerous Grounds was about Todd Carmichael's trip to Ethiopia. He went to the Forrest area where coffee grows wild and was the first place it was brewed into a drink over 1000 years ago. He has for sale some of that coffee. It's supposed to taste fruity.

Has anyone had coffee from La Colombe, his brand of coffee?

http://lacolombe.com/ 

[Marc1152]

I would agree.

But now that I've read this thread, I realize: I have apparently never had a good cup of coffee.

Well if you enjoy it, then it's good.

However, it's possible to up your game but be warned, it's hard to go back to the daily swill once you have.

[Fr.Aidan]

And to think I used to say that coffee remains drinkable for three days. Starting on the fourth day after it was made, you might as well throw it out.

High expectations? Behold low expectations!

[Marc1152]

And to think I used to say that coffee remains drinkable for three days. Starting on the fourth day after it was made, you might as well throw it out.

High expectations? Behold low expectations!

Repent Brother !

[Fr.Aidan]

I see this thread just got useful. 

[Achronos]

I would agree.

But now that I've read this thread, I realize: I have apparently never had a good cup of coffee.

lol same here.

I gave up on coffee a long time ago.

[Marc1152]

I would agree.

But now that I've read this thread, I realize: I have apparently never had a good cup of coffee.

lol same here.

I gave up on coffee a long time ago.

No doubt.. Most coffee people drink is watery and burnt and brewed improperly..

And when they think they have purchased a better grade of coffee it's from Starbucks which roasts their coffee too dark for most people, so thy think coffee needs caramel and whipped cream and mint to taste any good.

Fortunately good coffee is easy to make.

More later

Fort



 

[Marc1152]

Okay. Here is a step by step instruction on how to make your first cup of really good coffee. Other people will do things a little differently than me and have different tastes. But if youre new to better coffee this will do as a good start. I will keep this inexpensive but not free. I will assume you have some disposable income. If not, save up.

1. Buy a French Press. The top of the line is only around $39.00 but you can easily find one for around $20.00. $22.95 or there about.
You can go into a Starbucks and buy one or 'Bed Bath and Beyond' sells them cheap or any number of cookware stores or cookware sections of department stores. You can go to Amazon.com and have one sent. Here is what one looks like:



Coffee should be made one cup at a time, maybe two cups. That is why the coffee gets burned in a drip or perk since it sits there on the heat for a long time. You make one cup and drink it right away.

A French Press will only make one or two cups. There are some that can make 5 at a time. Don't buy it.

2. Go to Peet's Coffee on-line and buy a pound of either their House Blend or even better "Major Dickason's Blend"
Just trust me on this. There are many great choices out there but if you are a newbie Peet's is sure to please. You can expand to other Roasters ( People who roast and sell coffee) later.

Here is the link:

http://www.peets.com/default.asp?rdir=1&ftv=n\

3. You probably dont have a coffee grinder yet so buy the Peet's ground for a French Press. They give you the option of sending you the whole bean or ground for drip or French Press. It must be ground coarsely for a French Press or it wont work so well.When you are ready to buy your own grinder let us know and advice will follow. It is better to grind the beans yourself but not mandatory at first.

4. Google on how to make coffee with a French Press. or go to You tube. it's very easy.

Put two or three tablespoons of the ground coffee into the Press. Heat water for one cup ( Microwave it in the cup itself or boil it and then use your cup for a measure). Pour it into the Press and stir a few times with a spoon.

Put the lid on and wait about 5 minutes and then press down the plunger which will stop the brewing. Brew longer for stronger, shorter for weaker.

5. Pour and add sugar and cream to taste.

6. Drink

7. Thank God for his bounty.

Amen


 

 

[Alpo]

How Americans made their coffee before electric coffeemakers were invented?

[Marc1152]

How Americans made their coffee before electric coffeemakers were invented?

I seem to recall at Civil War Re enactments that they threw the whole beans into a pot of boiling water.  

How did they make coffee in Ethiopia 1000 years ago? I think there are special pots that you put the ground coffee in the top and then pour hot water through

[xariskai]

Lately we use a Moka pot. To me it brews the best coffee I have ever had anywhere -better than from espresso machines costing thousands. I will also give a nod to the French Press, also fantastic, but I just love the Moka brew.

We mix about 40% hot water with it afterward as it is really too thick even if you like it thick.

The new Impress, and the Aeropress, look interesting; we may pull the trigger and try these at some point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moka_pot
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inventiveculture/impress-coffee-brewer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AeroPress

[Alpo]

I hate to admit this but Swedes do it better:

[JamesR]

Can anyone give me instructions on how to make coffee the Finnish way or recommend me a Finnish coffee pot?

[Alpo]

Can anyone give me instructions on how to make coffee the Finnish way or recommend me a Finnish coffee pot?

I hope not. It's not that good.

[Arachne]

How do you brew it?

Bog-standard coffee maker, I'm afraid. I'm not really that picky. I brew for myself and husband, so it's always water up to the 4-cup mark and 3 slightly rounded scoops of grounds.

What brands do you like ? What is your favorite?

We've been using Douwe Egberts for a long time. I like trying different brands and blends, so no real favourite, but I tend to prefer mid-to-dark roasts.

Do you grind the beans yourself? What kind of grinder?

No, but eventually we'll get there.

Do you know how to "Taste" coffee ?

Not sure what you mean by 'tasting'... but I enjoy my coffee at leisure. I tend to mistrust people who down it like a big shot, even if it isn't an espresso.

What is your opinion of Starbucks?

Overpriced, for what they offer. If I'm having coffee out, I head to Costa.

How do you substitute for dairy during the fasts? Non-dairy creamer, nothing?

I use non-dairy creamer by default. Evaporated milk is ideal, but it's unpopular here, and I dream of the day Brits will discover individual portions.

If your house was on fire, would you first grab the dog or your French Press?

Please. The laptop is always the first, since the Kindle is no trouble to slip into a pocket.

[Marc1152]

A box from La Colombe arrived... I hope it's the Ethiopian coffee I asked for. 

Santa's cool and knows what I want.

[biro]

Someone at the office gave away a bag of orange coffee. I picked it up. We'll see how good it is tomorrow.

[WPM]

Coffee hour is a great time to chat and socially interact. <wave>

[Kerdy]

Enjoying a cup of my favorite coffee right now. 

I wonder, how long does it take for coffee to go bad.

[Timon]

Sipping some coffee before services tonight, otherwise ill fall asleep!!!

[JamesR]

The fast before receiving the Eucharist on Sunday is a real killer because without my coffee early in the morning, I have a very hard time getting prepared for Church and standing through the Liturgy without falling asleep.

[Marc1152]

Yay..... Got coffee from Ethiopia and another lb. from  Madagascar for Saint Herman's day today..

She got it from La Colombe owned by Todd Carmichael the guy on the TV show Dangerous Grounds.

The Ethiopian is from the province where coffee was first brewed. It isnt mixed with any other region's beans and grows wild.

Really Good.... Lighter Roast than I usually drink. Fruity...

The Madagascar coffee is actually Robusta ( lower grade) but the highest end of Robusta. Dark as F ing night.. Triple the caffeine. They warn you that it is not for Newbies... Will try later today and report back. Still sipping the Ethiopian...   

[genesisone]

The fast before receiving the Eucharist on Sunday is a real killer because without my coffee early in the morning, I have a very hard time getting prepared for Church and standing through the Liturgy without falling asleep.

You either have a serious caffeine addiction or are simply not getting enough sleep.

I've been surprised that Sunday mornings I have no problem skipping breakfast and coffee. Can't do it any other day. In fact, on those odd Sundays when I won't be receiving Communion for some reason it seems odd to have even a light breakfast.

Keep at it. It will take a few years - but you likely have many ahead of you. It will be worth it.

[Dejan]

I am old school drinking Greek/Turkish/Balkan style coffee.

[Marc1152]

I am old school drinking Greek/Turkish/Balkan style coffee.

Greek coffee.. Awesome

We ate at a Greek restaurant a few months ago and I ordered Greek Coffee for desert. The waiter warned me that it may be too late in the evening and I may have trouble sleeping. I said "I'll be fine"

I tried the coffee from Madagascar today... Too light a roast for me but it's very caffeinated. I may go for that Masters degree after all.. Maybe two of em

[Jason.Wike]

What is best thing to do/buy if someone likes coffee but you don't have a coffee maker?

Yerba Mate' - matine is similar to caffeine. It's a South American herbal tea

Cold mate is excellent.

Cold mate is known as tereré. You can spice it up with fresh herbs (I like any of basil, mint, lemon balm, etc.) or a bit of lemon. Really just about anything that appeals. And best served in a proper guampa (cow's horn).

It freaks out the guests though when you pull guampas out of the cabinet. Well, except for Viking kin.

[Marc1152]

[JamesR]

So for Christmas my grandfather bought me a bag of Pete's Coffee and I immediately thought of Marc

[Marc1152]

So for Christmas my grandfather bought me a bag of Pete's Coffee and I immediately thought of Marc

go "like" them on Facebook.

Which blend did you get? Let us know if you like it..

I enjoy Peets more than crack !!

Yay !!!

[Justin Kolodziej]

Yay, got a French Press for Christmas! Now I can stop using the K-cup machine that makes watered down coffee no matter what...

[Alpo]

I've been using moka press for couple of days now. I love the idea of coffee maker completely made of metal and it also keeps coffee hot for longer period than French press but unfortunately it seems to leak some metallic aftertaste to the coffee. Is that supposed to be normal or have I just failed to wash it properly?

[Peacemaker]

The monastery on Vashon Island have their own coffee. I normally buy from them, because not only am I getting amazing coffee, I'm helping the Kingdom of God by giving that money to the Church.

www.vashonmonks.com

[Marc1152]

[theistgal]

The monastery on Vashon Island have their own coffee. I normally buy from them, because not only am I getting amazing coffee, I'm helping the Kingdom of God by giving that money to the Church.

www.vashonmonks.com

Yes! My husband and I had the privilege of visiting with them a couple of years ago. What wonderful people - and what DELICIOUS coffee! 

[Arachne]

The last few days our coffee has been little more than brown water. If the bag I got was cafetiere coffee mislabelled as filter coffee, I'll be royally peeved off. Mostly because I don't like using the French press.

[Peacemaker]

The last few days our coffee has been little more than brown water. If the bag I got was cafetiere coffee mislabelled as filter coffee, I'll be royally peeved off. Mostly because I don't like using the French press.

When I'm feeling super super lazy, sometimes I can get away with making Greek coffee in the French press instead of boiling it twice in the briki.

[Marc1152]

Ive tried several of the specialty coffee's gathered up by Todd Carmichael of La Colombe on his "Dangerous Grounds" TV show . Its been picked up for another season btw.

I have been drinking so much great coffee lately that I cant call any one of several choices my favorite of the best ever. So I will rate them as:
 #1 Best ever

 #2 Would be best ever if you have never had any from group #1

 #3 Really really good coffee, but not Best Ever

#1: La Colombe Blue Mountain from Papua New Guinea, La Columbe Ethiopian wild Forrest single source, Peets Major Dickason's Blend.. ( not in any order)

#2 Peet's House Blend

#3 La Columbe Madagascar , Specialty Robusta  (tastes really great but has 3X the caffeine, so handle with care)

[pmpn8rGPT]

#1...La Columbe Ethiopian wild Forrest single source...

yes, I tried this this morning and I would definitely put it here, I haven't tried the other stuff yet...

[Adela]

In Ybor City (outside of Tampa) there is a coffee roaster (Naviera) that makes great coffee.   The area is full of the aroma of coffee beans roasting, and it is hard to resist passing. It's on my top 10 list of best places for coffee.   It wasn't burnt and bitter like Starbucks, and it's still family-owned, started by a Spanish cigar-roller.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/article1199701.ece

[J Michael]

+

+
one of these
and
a little of this

= easy, cheap, and not too bad

But...I'm open to suggestions for cheaper, easier, and tastier--I like it strong and highly caffeinated  

Maybe when Mr. Coffee dies, I'll get a French Press.  Or maybe sooner  .

When I lived in Israel, we made it the Turkish/Greek way (when not in a hurry)--absolutely excellent!--or used horrible Nescafe--yuck!

[Maria]

Sugar + Coffee is not good especially if you have diabetes in your family.
The sugar can cause a dramatic rise in blood sugar. Thus some complex carbs, toast with real butter, or protein is needed to prevent a rapid drop in blood sugar, and thus more craving for sweets. I have a tendency to reactive hypoglycemia so sugar is out for me.

Freshly brewed coffee without sugar and served with real food is best.

[J Michael]

Sugar + Coffee is not good especially if you have diabetes in your family.
The sugar can cause a dramatic rise in blood sugar. Thus some complex carbs, toast with real butter, or protein is needed to prevent a rapid drop in blood sugar, and thus more craving for sweets. I have a tendency to reactive hypoglycemia so sugar is out for me.

Freshly brewed coffee without sugar and served with real food is best.

I don't worry about such things.  If I'm going to drink coffee, I'm going to drink what I "like".    One small sugar cube in a huge mug of coffee is just right to take the edge off any lingering bitterness.

But...if you have health issues and need to be careful...that's another matter.

[TheMathematician]

+

+
one of these
and
a little of this

= easy, cheap, and not too bad

But...I'm open to suggestions for cheaper, easier, and tastier--I like it strong and highly caffeinated  

Maybe when Mr. Coffee dies, I'll get a French Press.  Or maybe sooner  .

When I lived in Israel, we made it the Turkish/Greek way (when not in a hurry)--absolutely excellent!--or used horrible Nescafe--yuck!

might i suggest, adding water along with the coffee into your coffee pot :-P

[Maria]

+

+
one of these
and
a little of this

= easy, cheap, and not too bad

But...I'm open to suggestions for cheaper, easier, and tastier--I like it strong and highly caffeinated  

Maybe when Mr. Coffee dies, I'll get a French Press.  Or maybe sooner  .

When I lived in Israel, we made it the Turkish/Greek way (when not in a hurry)--absolutely excellent!--or used horrible Nescafe--yuck!

might i suggest, adding water along with the coffee into your coffee pot :-P

+1

Good catch!

[Alpo]

But...I'm open to suggestions for cheaper, easier, and tastier--I like it strong and highly caffeinated  

Have you tried moka pot?

[J Michael]

+

+
one of these
and
a little of this

= easy, cheap, and not too bad

But...I'm open to suggestions for cheaper, easier, and tastier--I like it strong and highly caffeinated  

Maybe when Mr. Coffee dies, I'll get a French Press.  Or maybe sooner  .

When I lived in Israel, we made it the Turkish/Greek way (when not in a hurry)--absolutely excellent!--or used horrible Nescafe--yuck!

might i suggest, adding water along with the coffee into your coffee pot :-P

I just knew I was doing *something* wrong all these years!  What a great idea! 

[J Michael]

But...I'm open to suggestions for cheaper, easier, and tastier--I like it strong and highly caffeinated  

Have you tried moka pot?

I've seriously considered it.  Seems like it takes too much time and too many steps (I'm basically lazy, you see), and my wife doesn't like me using any cooking utensils made of aluminum--she says I'm already senile enough  .

[Peacemaker]

Has anyone tried Kopi Luwak aka Cat Poop Coffee?

Oh, you heard me correctly, coffee that is pooped from a cat like creature called a Civet. It's the most expensive coffee in the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8jHaCVFHvU

[Alpo]

But...I'm open to suggestions for cheaper, easier, and tastier--I like it strong and highly caffeinated  

Have you tried moka pot?

I've seriously considered it.  Seems like it takes too much time and too many steps (I'm basically lazy, you see), and my wife doesn't like me using any cooking utensils made of aluminum--she says I'm already senile enough  .

If you don't ground beans yourself I don't think it takes too much effort. Just add water and coffee into it and place it on the stove.

Why is aluminum bad? Does it leak poisonous ingredients or something? Some pots are made of steel so that won't be a problem.

[J Michael]

But...I'm open to suggestions for cheaper, easier, and tastier--I like it strong and highly caffeinated  

Have you tried moka pot?

I've seriously considered it.  Seems like it takes too much time and too many steps (I'm basically lazy, you see), and my wife doesn't like me using any cooking utensils made of aluminum--she says I'm already senile enough  .

If you don't ground beans yourself I don't think it takes too much effort. Just add water and coffee into it and place it on the stove.

Why is aluminum bad? Does it leak poisonous ingredients or something? Some pots are made of steel so that won't be a problem.

Not to derail the thread or anything, put some say that cooking with aluminum, especially using acidic foods, causes the aluminum to pit and leach into whatever's being cooked.  Aluminum toxicity is NOT a good thing.  Here's one article of many available: http://www.drpepi.com/aluminum-poisoning.php

So, with the Moka, no double boiling, pot watching, etc.?  A stainless steel Moka is pretty expensive, by the look of it.  Does the coffee actually taste better brewed in one?

[Alpo]

So, with the Moka, no double boiling, pot watching, etc.?  A stainless steel Moka is pretty expensive, by the look of it.  Does the coffee actually taste better brewed in one?

I'm fairly amateur when it comes to moka pots so I don't know anything about double boilings etc. I just wait until the water evaporates into coffee. The sound is a little different when all the water has evaporated- IMO it tastes much better than the regular coffee made with electric drip coffemakers but please note that my reference point is Finnish coffee. I don't know how different it is to the American coffee.

Didn't you attend a Roman parish? Maybe there are some Italian parishioners who could tell you more about moka pots.

[Arachne]

Has anyone tried Kopi Luwak aka Cat Poop Coffee?

Oh, you heard me correctly, coffee that is pooped from a cat like creature called a Civet. It's the most expensive coffee in the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8jHaCVFHvU

...

Ew.

[J Michael]

So, with the Moka, no double boiling, pot watching, etc.?  A stainless steel Moka is pretty expensive, by the look of it.  Does the coffee actually taste better brewed in one?

I'm fairly amateur when it comes to moka pots so I don't know anything about double boilings etc. I just wait until the water evaporates into coffee. The sound is a little different when all the water has evaporated- IMO it tastes much better than the regular coffee made with electric drip coffemakers but please note that my reference point is Finnish coffee. I don't know how different it is to the American coffee.

Didn't you attend a Roman parish? Maybe there are some Italian parishioners who could tell you more about moka pots.

I normally drink one large mug of coffee per day--on the way to work.  Mr. Coffee's *great* in that I just put the filter in, put the water in, put the coffee in, turn it on and I can go about my business getting ready to leave.  I don't have to listen, watch, stand guard, ask for passwords or secret codes, or pay it the least bit of attention until I'm ready--nuttin'  .  Switch it off, pour the coffee, dump the grounds--done!  Easy to clean, too--just the pot and the thingy that holds the filter--rinse and done.  But wifey does that for me  .

[Marc1152]

Sugar + Coffee is not good especially if you have diabetes in your family.
The sugar can cause a dramatic rise in blood sugar. Thus some complex carbs, toast with real butter, or protein is needed to prevent a rapid drop in blood sugar, and thus more craving for sweets. I have a tendency to reactive hypoglycemia so sugar is out for me.

Freshly brewed coffee without sugar and served with real food is best.

Streak, eggs and coffee works too

[augustin717]

If I make it at home then it's always Turkish. If I buy it it's espresso . And I have from two to five espressos a day.

[Maria]

Has anyone tried Kopi Luwak aka Cat Poop Coffee?

Oh, you heard me correctly, coffee that is pooped from a cat like creature called a Civet. It's the most expensive coffee in the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8jHaCVFHvU

Look at this youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IETIG1kt9ko

From the looks of this place with caged and apparently distressed animals, I do not think this drink is very healthy.

[Maria]

Sugar + Coffee is not good especially if you have diabetes in your family.
The sugar can cause a dramatic rise in blood sugar. Thus some complex carbs, toast with real butter, or protein is needed to prevent a rapid drop in blood sugar, and thus more craving for sweets. I have a tendency to reactive hypoglycemia so sugar is out for me.

Freshly brewed coffee without sugar and served with real food is best.

Streak, eggs and coffee works too

Of course, those are real foods.

[J Michael]

Sugar + Coffee is not good especially if you have diabetes in your family.
The sugar can cause a dramatic rise in blood sugar. Thus some complex carbs, toast with real butter, or protein is needed to prevent a rapid drop in blood sugar, and thus more craving for sweets. I have a tendency to reactive hypoglycemia so sugar is out for me.

Freshly brewed coffee without sugar and served with real food is best.

Streak, eggs and coffee works too

Of course, those are real foods.

Cheap, too.     Makes fo a nice treet, but us po folk cain't 'ford dat stuff on reglar bases .

[Maria]

Sugar + Coffee is not good especially if you have diabetes in your family.
The sugar can cause a dramatic rise in blood sugar. Thus some complex carbs, toast with real butter, or protein is needed to prevent a rapid drop in blood sugar, and thus more craving for sweets. I have a tendency to reactive hypoglycemia so sugar is out for me.

Freshly brewed coffee without sugar and served with real food is best.

Streak, eggs and coffee works too

Of course, those are real foods.

Cheap, too.    Makes fo a nice treet, but us po folk cain't 'ford dat stuff on reglar bases .

Cheaper food often has GMOs, questionable additives from the GRAS list, including MSG, and processed sugar from GMO crops. For me, eating cheap processed food can land me in the hospital. Then it is not cheap relatively speaking as hospitalizations or a trip to the emergency room rarely cost less than $5,000 nowadays.

So, bring on the real coffee and the real unprocessed food: steak, eggs, cheese, butter, fruit, and veggies. Smell the bacon and the coffee. Yum.

Sorry, forgot it was Wednesday. I apologize for tempting those. Back on the fast. ...

[JamesR]

For this weekend I feel like trying something creative with my coffee. Does anyone have any suggestions, ideas or recipes for any treats I could make from coffee?

[Maria]

For this weekend I feel like trying something creative with my coffee. Does anyone have any suggestions, ideas or recipes for any treats I could make from coffee?

Mocha ice cream, but not on Wednesdays.

If you take some frozen blueberries, add it to yogurt, sprinkle in some ground roasted coffee, sweeten it to taste (I don't), and then put it through the blender for a few seconds, you have got yourself a real frozen yogurt treat.

[Alpo]

I normally drink one large mug of coffee per day--on the way to work.  Mr. Coffee's *great* in that I just put the filter in, put the water in, put the coffee in, turn it on and I can go about my business getting ready to leave.  I don't have to listen, watch, stand guard, ask for passwords or secret codes, or pay it the least bit of attention until I'm ready--nuttin'  .  Switch it off, pour the coffee, dump the grounds--done!  Easy to clean, too--just the pot and the thingy that holds the filter--rinse and done.  But wifey does that for me  .

Some things are not supposed to easy. Making a little more effort not only offers better coffee but also turns ordinary cup of coffee into a luxury.

[JamesR]

For this weekend I feel like trying something creative with my coffee. Does anyone have any suggestions, ideas or recipes for any treats I could make from coffee?

Mocha ice cream, but not on Wednesdays.

If you take some frozen blueberries, add it to yogurt, sprinkle in some ground roasted coffee, sweeten it to taste (I don't), and then put it through the blender for a few seconds, you have got yourself a real frozen yogurt treat.

Hurray!! Thank you Maria!

[Maria]

For this weekend I feel like trying something creative with my coffee. Does anyone have any suggestions, ideas or recipes for any treats I could make from coffee?

Mocha ice cream, but not on Wednesdays.

If you take some frozen blueberries, add it to yogurt, sprinkle in some ground roasted coffee, sweeten it to taste (I don't), and then put it through the blender for a few seconds, you have got yourself a real frozen yogurt treat.

Hurray!! Thank you Maria!

p.s. You can also add some chocolate chips to the mixture.

[Fr.Aidan]

It does grieve me that although I am able, financially, to avoid common modern food, am able to buy organic, for example, so many others do not have this ability.

Common modern food, with the GMOs, high fructose corn syrup, aspartame (in about 5000 foods now), often laden with fluoride (if tap water is used) and/or BPA, may send you, Maria, to the hospital. But even those who eat it with no immediate symptoms, are still very likely to suffer in the longer run, with hugely increased rates of cancer, brain damage, infertility, diabetes, auto-immune disorders, immune system damage, and the list goes on. In some cases the rate of maladies has increased among the population 15,000% (not a typo) over the last 30 or 40 years.

As the various economies of the world continue to be deliberately destroyed, as people's purchasing power shrinks and shrinks, their ability to avoid being poisoned, sterilized, and brain-damaged keeps diminishing apace. It is heart-breaking to watch it all happen, all so avoidable, so preventable. But until people wake up and decide they wish to take some kind of action to retain their human dignity, I suppose the weakest will continue to be trampled under the jackboots of the powers that be. Trampled to death, literal death.

The first moment to repentance is to realize that one has fallen and has become abject. So also, the first moment of deliverance from this nasty and death-bearing cocktail, is to realize that we are in quite a predicament!

The blueberry and coffee and yogurt recipe sounds delightful, and I must try it as soon as I can.

[Maria]

It does grieve me that although I am able, financially, to avoid common modern food, am able to buy organic, for example, so many others do not have this ability.

Common modern food, with the GMOs, high fructose corn syrup, aspartame (in about 5000 foods now), often laden with fluoride (if tap water is used) and/or BPA, may send you, Maria, to the hospital. But even those who eat it with no immediate symptoms, are still very likely to suffer in the longer run, with hugely increased rates of cancer, brain damage, infertility, diabetes, auto-immune disorders, immune system damage, and the list goes on. In some cases the rate of maladies has increased among the population 15,000% (not a typo) over the last 30 or 40 years.

As the various economies of the world continue to be deliberately destroyed, as people's purchasing power shrinks and shrinks, their ability to avoid being poisoned, sterilized, and brain-damaged keeps diminishing apace. It is heart-breaking to watch it all happen, all so avoidable, so preventable. But until people wake up and decide they wish to take some kind of action to retain their human dignity, I suppose the weakest will continue to be trampled under the jackboots of the powers that be. Trampled to death, literal death.

The first moment to repentance is to realize that one has fallen and has become abject. So also, the first moment of deliverance from this nasty and death-bearing cocktail, is to realize that we are in quite a predicament!

The blueberry and coffee and yogurt recipe sounds delightful, and I must try it as soon as I can.

Thanks, Father.
Lord have mercy.

[Marc1152]

If I make it at home then it's always Turkish. If I buy it it's espresso . And I have from two to five espressos a day.

[Marc1152]

I normally drink one large mug of coffee per day--on the way to work.  Mr. Coffee's *great* in that I just put the filter in, put the water in, put the coffee in, turn it on and I can go about my business getting ready to leave.  I don't have to listen, watch, stand guard, ask for passwords or secret codes, or pay it the least bit of attention until I'm ready--nuttin'  .  Switch it off, pour the coffee, dump the grounds--done!  Easy to clean, too--just the pot and the thingy that holds the filter--rinse and done.  But wifey does that for me  .

Some things are not supposed to easy. Making a little more effort not only offers better coffee but also turns ordinary cup of coffee into a luxury.

Is no laziness in Orthodoxy. Wake quickly. Do prayers, wash, make good coffee not crappy stuff 

[Fr.Aidan]

The "You Can Sleep When You're Dead" reminds me of how Mother Abbess Andrea would always upbraid me if I would tell her she must get some rest:

"Father! There's plenty of time to rest hereafter!"

[J Michael]

I normally drink one large mug of coffee per day--on the way to work.  Mr. Coffee's *great* in that I just put the filter in, put the water in, put the coffee in, turn it on and I can go about my business getting ready to leave.  I don't have to listen, watch, stand guard, ask for passwords or secret codes, or pay it the least bit of attention until I'm ready--nuttin'  .  Switch it off, pour the coffee, dump the grounds--done!  Easy to clean, too--just the pot and the thingy that holds the filter--rinse and done.  But wifey does that for me  .

Some things are not supposed to easy. Making a little more effort not only offers better coffee but also turns ordinary cup of coffee into a luxury.

Is no laziness in Orthodoxy. Wake quickly. Do prayers, wash, make good coffee not crappy stuff 

I know crappy coffee when I taste it--God knows I've had enough of it over the years.  That's why I "Wake quickly. Do prayers, wash, make good coffee not crappy stuff".   If coffee were higher on my list of priorities....but it's not.  Now, if we were talking red wine, dark beer, Irish whiskey.... (all of which I consume in extreme moderation, rather infrequently, and with IMMENSE enjoyment--that, my friends, is "luxury". )

[Alpo]

If coffee were higher on my list of priorities....but it's not.

Heretic!

[J Michael]

If coffee were higher on my list of priorities....but it's not.

Heretic!

LOL!  Hey, I've been called worse and survived it  .

[Marc1152]

My dog drank what was left of my coffee this morning.. This is the second time he has done that. He seems to have develped a taste for it..Good thing he's so cute.

[Michał Kalina]

If coffee were higher on my list of priorities....but it's not.

Heretic!

I agree with J Michael. I don't mind bad coffee much (unless it's instant coffee). I have much less tolerance for bad tea.

My dog drank what was left of my coffee this morning.. This is the second time he has done that. He seems to have develped a taste for it..Good thing he's so cute.

My cat liked coffee too.

[Maria]

My dog drank what was left of my coffee this morning.. This is the second time he has done that. He seems to have develped a taste for it..Good thing he's so cute.

Chocolate can kill dogs. Coffee is related to it. Be careful.

[J Michael]

My dog drank what was left of my coffee this morning.. This is the second time he has done that. He seems to have develped a taste for it..Good thing he's so cute.

Chocolate can kill dogs. Coffee is related to it. Be careful.

Yeah, not a great idea to let cats and dogs have coffee or chocolate--unless you believe in "assisted suicide", that is  .

[J Michael]

My dog drank what was left of my coffee this morning.. This is the second time he has done that. He seems to have develped a taste for it..Good thing he's so cute.

Dog's will eat and drink just about anything--even their own or others' feces.

[J Michael]

Speaking of "coffee", Putumayo has a great collection of world music cd's, two of which are called "Music From the Coffee Lands"  GREAT stuff.  Okay....sorry for the digression, just doing a little free associating  .
http://www.putumayo.com/content/music_coffee_lands (and no, I have no connection to them whatsoever, I just love the music they publish.)

[Arachne]

Speaking of "coffee", Putumayo has a great collection of world music cd's, two of which are called "Music From the Coffee Lands"  GREAT stuff.  Okay....sorry for the digression, just doing a little free associating  .
http://www.putumayo.com/content/music_coffee_lands (and no, I have no connection to them whatsoever, I just love the music they publish.)

I have them both (along with another, oh, 50-something Putumayo albums ). I like the line-up of the first one better, but both make for wonderful listening.

Non-coffee fans can choose 'Music from the Tea/Chocolate/Wine Lands'. Not making these up. They're all up there in the catalogue.

[xariskai]

But...I'm open to suggestions for cheaper, easier, and tastier--I like it strong and highly caffeinated  

Have you tried moka pot?

I've seriously considered it.  Seems like it takes too much time and too many steps (I'm basically lazy, you see), and my wife doesn't like me using any cooking utensils made of aluminum--she says I'm already senile enough  .

You can also get a stainless steel one.

It is also very fast. We put boiling water in the bottom so the whole pot is done in a couple of minutes. Pour coffee in filter -don't tamp. Don't set flame too high /about medium. Expect to add boiling water to your cup of Moka -we usually add about 40% water to a cup, and it is very "Espresso-ish" -but more "dummy-proof."

Cleanup is also very fast/15-20 seconds and you're done: unscrew, dump filter (not messy, because it's hard on the top from the pressure) then rinse filter/bottom/pot (from both sides, i.e. thru the spout too). We rinse to remove the ground-dregs but actually leave any traces of oil so far as possible.

Try to get one with a "deep draw filter" =the spout below the filter reaches to the bottom of the reservoir. With the deep draw, when the water is ready (if your flame is not too high) all of it pretty much "explodes" into the pot without much waiting (high pressure/fast). You will see evidence of this from the filter when you go to clean it -the top will be solid from the pressure.

But...I'm open to suggestions for cheaper, easier, and tastier--I like it strong and highly caffeinated  

Have you tried moka pot?

I've seriously considered it.  Seems like it takes too much time and too many steps (I'm basically lazy, you see), and my wife doesn't like me using any cooking utensils made of aluminum--she says I'm already senile enough  .

If you don't ground beans yourself I don't think it takes too much effort. Just add water and coffee into it and place it on the stove.

Why is aluminum bad? Does it leak poisonous ingredients or something? Some pots are made of steel so that won't be a problem.

Not to derail the thread or anything, put some say that cooking with aluminum, especially using acidic foods, causes the aluminum to pit and leach into whatever's being cooked.  Aluminum toxicity is NOT a good thing.  Here's one article of many available: http://www.drpepi.com/aluminum-poisoning.php

So, with the Moka, no double boiling, pot watching, etc.?  A stainless steel Moka is pretty expensive, by the look of it.  Does the coffee actually taste better brewed in one?

In a word: AWESOME. All the oils/nutty flavor comes through. Again, add boiling water to taste to the Moka after it is done for espresso or Joe (American style).

I've been using moka press for couple of days now. I love the idea of coffee maker completely made of metal and it also keeps coffee hot for longer period than French press but unfortunately it seems to leak some metallic aftertaste to the coffee. Is that supposed to be normal or have I just failed to wash it properly?

Make sure your brand is not just aluminum, but food grade aluminum. Water left in the bottom, if any, has a strange smell- rinse it all out, and out of the filter, and out of the pot part (hold upside down and run the water through bottom up).

[xariskai]

^Addendum: fill the filter all the way full with coffee, but not so high that it will tamp down when you screw on the top. You almost certainty will not want your coffee nearly as thick as it comes out, but trust me, if you fix this by adding boiling water rather than cutting back on the amount of coffee in the filter you will not regret it when you taste the result.

[Michał Kalina]

^Addendum: fill the filter all the way full with coffee, but not so high that it will tamp down when you screw on the top. You almost certainty will not want your coffee nearly as thick as it comes out, but trust me, if you fix this by adding boiling water rather than cutting back on the amount of coffee in the filter you will not regret it when you taste the result.

I never added water.

[Kerdy]

My dog drank what was left of my coffee this morning.. This is the second time he has done that. He seems to have develped a taste for it..Good thing he's so cute.

Dog's will eat and drink just about anything--even their own or others' feces.

Balls of string, plastic, what ever.  I can't tell you how many times I have had to assist my dog in removing something from either the front or the back.  Dogs, gotta love em.

[xariskai]

^Addendum: fill the filter all the way full with coffee, but not so high that it will tamp down when you screw on the top. You almost certainty will not want your coffee nearly as thick as it comes out, but trust me, if you fix this by adding boiling water rather than cutting back on the amount of coffee in the filter you will not regret it when you taste the result.

I never added water.

Do you fill the filter full?

[Michał Kalina]

^Addendum: fill the filter all the way full with coffee, but not so high that it will tamp down when you screw on the top. You almost certainty will not want your coffee nearly as thick as it comes out, but trust me, if you fix this by adding boiling water rather than cutting back on the amount of coffee in the filter you will not regret it when you taste the result.

I never added water.

Do you fill the filter full?

Yep. I received something like double espresso. I got kicked when I drunk two doubles in a row but one was OK for me. I do not like watery coffee.

I add sugar, though.

[Alpo]

Michal, how Poles have their coffee?

[xariskai]

^Addendum: fill the filter all the way full with coffee, but not so high that it will tamp down when you screw on the top. You almost certainty will not want your coffee nearly as thick as it comes out, but trust me, if you fix this by adding boiling water rather than cutting back on the amount of coffee in the filter you will not regret it when you taste the result.

I never added water.

Do you fill the filter full?

Yep. I received something like double espresso. I got kicked when I drunk two doubles in a row but one was OK for me. I do not like watery coffee.

That'll put hair on your chest.

I do enjoy the occasional cup of Greek/Turkish; maybe I'll try it your way this morning.

[Michał Kalina]

Michal, how Poles have their coffee?

Pardon? I'm sorry I do not understand the question.

I do enjoy the occasional cup of Greek/Turkish; maybe I'll try it your way this morning.

I've got more than enough.

[Alpo]

Michal, how Poles have their coffee?

Pardon? I'm sorry I do not understand the question.

How Poles prepare their coffee? I mean, do they use moka pot or something else?

[Marc1152]

My dog drank what was left of my coffee this morning.. This is the second time he has done that. He seems to have develped a taste for it..Good thing he's so cute.

Chocolate can kill dogs. Coffee is related to it. Be careful.

I know !  I watched him for a while to make sure he was okay... Creepy little dog. Now I cant leave my cup out next my cozy spot on the couch anymore.

I may as well be living in a Monastery

[Marc1152]

Michal, how Poles have their coffee?

Pardon? I'm sorry I do not understand the question.

How Poles prepare their coffee? I mean, do they use moka pot or something else?

[Michał Kalina]

Michal, how Poles have their coffee?

Pardon? I'm sorry I do not understand the question.

How Poles prepare their coffee? I mean, do they use moka pot or something else?

Not going deeply into historical background, coffee drinking traditions heavily deteriorated during Communist time albeit being present in the country since late XVII century. That means, the only one known way to make coffee until 90' was to pour boiling water onto grounded grains in the glass (people also used to drink "grain coffee").

At the turn of 80/90' decades instant coffee enterred the country and became incredibly popular. Over time, in local coffee makers begin to appear but they are yet to become popular for domestic use. Things like moka pots of french presses are hardly popular.

[Alpo]

Not going deeply into historical background, coffee drinking traditions heavily deteriorated during Communist time albeit being present in the country since late XVII century. That means, the only one known way to make coffee until 90' was to pour boiling water onto grounded grains in the glass (people also used to drink "grain coffee").

At the turn of 80/90' decades instant coffee enterred the country and became incredibly popular. Over time, in local coffee makers begin to appear but they are yet to become popular for domestic use. Things like moka pots of french presses are hardly popular.

Thanks. There is a Polish RC priest in Finland who uses moka pot so I thought moka pots might have spread to Poland but I guess he has just spent too much time with Italians or something.

[Hiwot]

My dog drank what was left of my coffee this morning.. This is the second time he has done that. He seems to have develped a taste for it..Good thing he's so cute.

Chocolate can kill dogs. Coffee is related to it. Be careful.

I know !  I watched him for a while to make sure he was okay... Creepy little dog. Now I cant leave my cup out next my cozy spot on the couch anymore.

I may as well be living in a Monastery

hehehe so cute yourself Mark

[Kerdy]

Enjoying a cup of Casa Cielo on the patio.

[Peacemaker]

Coffee is number one source of antioxidants, tea is a up there but coffee wins out. You can drink decaffeinated as well and get the same amount without all the caffeine. In fact, decaffeinated only means that caffeine wasn't added, the coffee itself still has caffeine in it, just not in high amounts that was added by man. All that caffeine isn't good for you anyway.

[Arachne]

Tea actually has more antioxidants, especially the green varieties (which is why it is forbidden to cancer patients), but coffee is pretty high up the list as well. Just like the Guatamalan Cloud Forest I'm enjoying right now.

[Peacemaker]

Tea actually has more antioxidants, especially the green varieties (which is why it is forbidden to cancer patients), but coffee is pretty high up the list as well. Just like the Guatamalan Cloud Forest I'm enjoying right now.

*in a singing voice* The more you know!


Google, you've failed me again!


This was my sorce read "Coffee Has More Antioxidants Per Cup, Get More Antioxidants From More Cups of Tea Per Day"
http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/which-is-higher-in-antioxidants---coffee-or-tea.html

[Arachne]

That's why I usually have just one mug of coffee, in the morning, when I need a good donkey-grade kick to start my day (so not a morning person...), and 2-3 cups of tea throughout the rest of the day.

[orthonorm]

Coffee is number one source of antioxidants, tea is a up there but coffee wins out. You can drink decaffeinated as well and get the same amount without all the caffeine. In fact, decaffeinated only means that caffeine wasn't added, the coffee itself still has caffeine in it, just not in high amounts that was added by man. All that caffeine isn't good for you anyway.

Question:

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

Statement:

If you are reducing food to "nutrition", you don't know anything about food.

Personal Reaction:

Antioxidants . . . lol.

[Peacemaker]

Coffee is number one source of antioxidants, tea is a up there but coffee wins out. You can drink decaffeinated as well and get the same amount without all the caffeine. In fact, decaffeinated only means that caffeine wasn't added, the coffee itself still has caffeine in it, just not in high amounts that was added by man. All that caffeine isn't good for you anyway.

Question:

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

Statement:

If you are reducing food to "nutrition", you don't know anything about food.

Personal Reaction:

Antioxidants . . . lol.

Could do without the rudeness, it's Sunday, calm down.

I wasn't speaking about nutrition which is to support life. I was speaking about antioxidants and caffeine in coffee and tea. Why am I even explaining this?

[orthonorm]

Coffee is number one source of antioxidants, tea is a up there but coffee wins out. You can drink decaffeinated as well and get the same amount without all the caffeine. In fact, decaffeinated only means that caffeine wasn't added, the coffee itself still has caffeine in it, just not in high amounts that was added by man. All that caffeine isn't good for you anyway.

Question:

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

Statement:

If you are reducing food to "nutrition", you don't know anything about food.

Personal Reaction:

Antioxidants . . . lol.

Could do without the rudeness, it's Sunday, calm down.

I wasn't speaking about nutrition which is to support life. I was speaking about antioxidants and caffeine in coffee and tea. Why am I even explaining this?

You can't explain what you don't understand, well not at least well.


If you are willing to pay me, I will begin to explain why your statements about caffeine in coffee are unfounded and why "anti-oxidant" measures of various foods is just silly.

[JamesR]

Coffee is mother nature's greatest gift to humanity; it's what provides a temporary, simple pleasure during the darkest of hours; what makes a dreadful day at work bearable. Coffee is solace for the simple man.

[Marc1152]

Coffee is mother nature's greatest gift to humanity; it's what provides a temporary, simple pleasure during the darkest of hours; what makes a dreadful day at work bearable. Coffee is solace for the simple man.

Well said my boy ! Well said !

The caffeine in coffee occurs naturally in the bean. It is not added. The amount of caffeine is determined by the type of bean and how much it is roasted.

The darker you roast the bean the less caffeine is left, it gets cooked out . Many people believe the opposite that the darker coffee's have more caffeine. The opposite is the case, the lighter the roast the higher the caffeine.

Decaf in not coffee that hasn't had caffeine added. It is washed out of the bean and then roasted. Some of the chemicals used in washing out the caffeine could be of some minor concern.

[JamesR]

The darker you roast the bean the less caffeine is left, it gets cooked out . Many people believe the opposite that the darker coffee's have more caffeine. The opposite is the case, the lighter the roast the higher the caffeine.

Many people still refuse to believe this; it's pobably the most widespread myth among the coffee-drinking world. I know several folks who want a more caffeinated blend for the morning to help them trek through their day, and they make the mistake of purchasing bolder, darker roasted coffees, thinking that they will carry more caffeine or something. There is a reason why most "Breakfast" blends are actually very mild and lightly roasted, because the lighter roasted beans have more caffeine, and they know that people in the morning around breakfast time are going to want that caffeine rush to get through the day.

[Kerdy]

Coffee is number one source of antioxidants, tea is a up there but coffee wins out. You can drink decaffeinated as well and get the same amount without all the caffeine. In fact, decaffeinated only means that caffeine wasn't added, the coffee itself still has caffeine in it, just not in high amounts that was added by man. All that caffeine isn't good for you anyway.

Question:

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

Statement:

If you are reducing food to "nutrition", you don't know anything about food.

Personal Reaction:

Antioxidants . . . lol.

Could do without the rudeness, it's Sunday, calm down.

I wasn't speaking about nutrition which is to support life. I was speaking about antioxidants and caffeine in coffee and tea. Why am I even explaining this?

Don't waste your time...  Some people never got out of the high school mentality of sarcasm is intelligence. 

[orthonorm]

Coffee is number one source of antioxidants, tea is a up there but coffee wins out. You can drink decaffeinated as well and get the same amount without all the caffeine. In fact, decaffeinated only means that caffeine wasn't added, the coffee itself still has caffeine in it, just not in high amounts that was added by man. All that caffeine isn't good for you anyway.

Question:

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

Statement:

If you are reducing food to "nutrition", you don't know anything about food.

Personal Reaction:

Antioxidants . . . lol.

Could do without the rudeness, it's Sunday, calm down.

I wasn't speaking about nutrition which is to support life. I was speaking about antioxidants and caffeine in coffee and tea. Why am I even explaining this?

Don't waste your time...  Some people never got out of the high school mentality of sarcasm is intelligence. 

If you are going to use veiled insults, at least know the definitions of what you are using to do so.

Sarcasm the above ain't.

[Alpo]

I found out yeasterday that there is an Ethiopian restaurant quite near to my apartment. Even more, it seems to be owned by actual Ethiopians and not some other ethnic/cultural group. I can't wait to have a cup of Ethiopian coffee some day.

[Kerdy]

See what I mean?   

[Achronos]

See what I mean?  

That you can't distinguish what is sarcasm and what's not?

The only thing thats high school here is your comprehension skills.

Actually that's insulting to high school students.

[Marc1152]

Let's stand up for caffeine and demonstrate to our friends that this is the friendliest of all threads.

[Timon]

Someone gave me some Keurig K-Cups the other day. Ive had a Keurig for a while, but quit using it since the coffee isnt all that great. Among the ones given to me, there are a few blueberry ones so I figured id try.  The smell as its brewing is INCREDIBLE. Smells like I just opened an oven with a fresh blueberry pie in it.  Unfortunately, it doesnt taste a fraction as good as it smells....

[Tikhon.of.Colorado]

The only thing thats high school here is your comprehension skills.

Actually that's insulting to high school students.

[Tikhon.of.Colorado]

1. How do you brew it?
2. What brands do you like ? What is your favorite?
3. Do you grind the beans yourself? What kind of grinder?
4. Do you know how to "Taste" coffee ?
5. What is your opinion of Starbucks?
6. How do you substitute for dairy during the fasts? Non-dairy creamer, nothing?

7. If your house was on fire, would you first grab the dog or your French Press?

1. Simple coffee maker at home. 
2. Folgers.  But I love starbucks (which is really bad,) and I've taken a liking to the coffee sold my the monastery on Vashon Island.
3. Nope.
4. Yep.  Learned in culinary class.
5. It's good when there's not something better, but I like getting my coffees from real cafes if possible. 
6. I use powdered craeamer, which I occasionally enjoy more than liquid creamer.

7. Let me put it this way:  My French Press doesn't crap allover my floor or chew holes into my shoes.

[Kerdy]

See what I mean?  

That you can't distinguish what is sarcasm and what's not?

The only thing thats high school here is your comprehension skills.

Actually that's insulting to high school students.

You aren't much better my friend.

[Marc1152]

1. How do you brew it?
2. What brands do you like ? What is your favorite?
3. Do you grind the beans yourself? What kind of grinder?
4. Do you know how to "Taste" coffee ?
5. What is your opinion of Starbucks?
6. How do you substitute for dairy during the fasts? Non-dairy creamer, nothing?

7. If your house was on fire, would you first grab the dog or your French Press?

1. Simple coffee maker at home. 
2. Folgers.  But I love starbucks (which is really bad,) and I've taken a liking to the coffee sold my the monastery on Vashon Island.
3. Nope.
4. Yep.  Learned in culinary class.
5. It's good when there's not something better, but I like getting my coffees from real cafes if possible. 
6. I use powdered craeamer, which I occasionally enjoy more than liquid creamer.

7. Let me put it this way:  My French Press doesn't crap allover my floor or chew holes into my shoes.

I use powdered non dairy creamer during the fasts. Much better than liquid I think.

I normally use heavy cream ( no carbs and tastes great). I recommend trying it. Half and half just isnt as good IMHO.

What do other people here use to lighten their coffee?

[Arachne]

What do other people here use to lighten their coffee?

[xariskai]

1. How do you brew it?
2. What brands do you like ? What is your favorite?
3. Do you grind the beans yourself? What kind of grinder?
4. Do you know how to "Taste" coffee ?
5. What is your opinion of Starbucks?
6. How do you substitute for dairy during the fasts? Non-dairy creamer, nothing?

7. If your house was on fire, would you first grab the dog or your French Press?

1. Simple coffee maker at home.  
2. Folgers.  But I love starbucks (which is really bad,) and I've taken a liking to the coffee sold my the monastery on Vashon Island.
3. Nope.
4. Yep.  Learned in culinary class.
5. It's good when there's not something better, but I like getting my coffees from real cafes if possible.  
6. I use powdered craeamer, which I occasionally enjoy more than liquid creamer.

7. Let me put it this way:  My French Press doesn't crap allover my floor or chew holes into my shoes.

I use powdered non dairy creamer during the fasts. Much better than liquid I think.

I normally use heavy cream ( no carbs and tastes great). I recommend trying it. Half and half just isnt as good IMHO.

What do other people here use to lighten their coffee?

Mostly Coffeemate; occasionally we buy heavy whipping cream. I agree with you about the Half and Half not being as good.

When our heavy cream goes low we sometimes mix half milk with it and it is *still* much better than Half and Half from the store (haven't figured that one out yet). 

[Michał Kalina]

What do other people here use to lighten their coffee?

Milk.

[Marc1152]

1. How do you brew it?
2. What brands do you like ? What is your favorite?
3. Do you grind the beans yourself? What kind of grinder?
4. Do you know how to "Taste" coffee ?
5. What is your opinion of Starbucks?
6. How do you substitute for dairy during the fasts? Non-dairy creamer, nothing?

7. If your house was on fire, would you first grab the dog or your French Press?

1. Simple coffee maker at home.  
2. Folgers.  But I love starbucks (which is really bad,) and I've taken a liking to the coffee sold my the monastery on Vashon Island.
3. Nope.
4. Yep.  Learned in culinary class.
5. It's good when there's not something better, but I like getting my coffees from real cafes if possible.  
6. I use powdered craeamer, which I occasionally enjoy more than liquid creamer.

7. Let me put it this way:  My French Press doesn't crap allover my floor or chew holes into my shoes.

I use powdered non dairy creamer during the fasts. Much better than liquid I think.

I normally use heavy cream ( no carbs and tastes great). I recommend trying it. Half and half just isnt as good IMHO.

What do other people here use to lighten their coffee?

Mostly Coffeemate; occasionally we buy heavy whipping cream. I agree with you about the Half and Half not being as good.

When our heavy cream goes low we sometimes mix half milk with it and it is *still* much better than Half and Half from the store (haven't figured that one out yet). 

Maybe we are too trusting and assume half and half is is 50% Milk 50% heavy cream.. when maybe it's just 10% cream or some such.

[Arachne]

What do other people here use to lighten their coffee?

Milk.

I find that ordinary milk makes my coffee too watery. Evaporated milk is much better, but it's ridiculously hard to come by in the UK.

[J Michael]

What do other people here use to lighten their coffee?

Milk.

I find that ordinary milk makes my coffee too watery. Evaporated milk is much better, but it's ridiculously hard to come by in the UK.

That's because it all evaporated away  !  Sorry, just couldn't resist that  .

[JamesR]

So, I logged onto my World Market Explorer account today to discover that I had accumulated three free-bag-of-coffee coupons over the weeks. I printed them each out and then went to World Market with my mother and came home with four bags of my favorite coffee

[Alpo]

What do other people here use to lighten their coffee?

Milk.

I used to use milk too but then I got used to just plain black coffee without any additives. It tastes better without lightener.

Have you tried adding any spices like cinnamon to your coffee?

Ps. Yay! My first post to OC.net with Opera Mobile!

[Michał Kalina]

I add milk to instant coffee because it's to sour for me to drink it black. When I' having Polish coffee or something from express / moka pot I drink it black with sugar.

I add cinnamon, nutmeg or vanilla from time to time. I quite enjoy the results.

[Arachne]

If the coffee I'm having includes a lot of frothy milk, a sprinkling of cinnamon on top is just right.

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