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"We believe we have put in effective policies that address the accounts that are left behind by the deceased," said Fred Wolens, a Facebook spokesman. "When we receive a report that a person on Facebook is deceased, we put the account in a special memorialized state. Certain more sensitive information is removed, and privacy is restricted to friends only. The profile and Wall are left up so that friends and loved ones can make posts in remembrance. If we're contacted by a close family member with a request to remove the profile entirely, we will honor that request."

Memorials can only be found by people who were already friends with the dead person (by default, Facebook accounts show up in Google) and the "tag a friend" and "people you may know" features are disabled. But the memorialization option is unknown to even the most social media-savvy and hard to find on the site. It's unclear how much the feature is being used. Wolens said there are no figures on how many formally memorialized pages exist.

"Facebook doesn't do a good job of thinking about death," says Brubaker, the scholar who studies death on social media. "It doesn't have that concept. There's no checkbox that says 'I am dead,' and when would you click it anyway? What does it mean for all these profiles to be lingering on of people who are dead?"
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What does it mean for all these profiles to be lingering on of people who are dead?"

That people can grieve as they find most helpful.
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I am strongly in support of the profiles of the deceased remaining accessible. 
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As cemetery space becomes scarce and/or more expensive, this might be a cheaper alternative.

Are there any Orthodox canons on the necessity of having a physical grave?
« Last Edit: December 08, 2012, 12:40:59 AM by Jetavan »
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As cemetery space becomes scarce and/or more expensive, this might be a cheaper alternative.

Are there any Orthodox canons on the necessity of having a physical grave?

Apparently, yes. Cremation and other methods of disposing of corpses is seen as a denial of the General Resurrection.

Source: http://www.3saints.com/cremation.html

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As cemetery space becomes scarce and/or more expensive, this might be a cheaper alternative.

Are there any Orthodox canons on the necessity of having a physical grave?

Apparently, yes. Cremation and other methods of disposing of corpses is seen as a denial of the General Resurrection.

Source: http://www.3saints.com/cremation.html

No it's not, unless you do it in virtue of denying the "physical" resurrection.

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I am strongly in support of the profiles of the deceased remaining accessible. 

I've seen it go very very bad very very quickly - people tend to be quite insane after the death of a loved one.
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I see a new industry emerging: Digital Mortuary Services.

Would you like your profile embalmed or cremated?  We have low-cost options, even with our below-ground servers...
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I see a new industry emerging: Digital Mortuary Services.

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« Last Edit: December 08, 2012, 12:51:00 PM by Jetavan »
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I am strongly in support of the profiles of the deceased remaining accessible. 

I've seen it go very very bad very very quickly - people tend to be quite insane after the death of a loved one.


Can't they unfriend them? Or does that not work in some way (perhaps I am missing something)? I'm a bit sensitive on the issue as, when a loved one of mine died, someone had their profile taken down without my knowledge, and I would have preferred that not to happen.
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I am strongly in support of the profiles of the deceased remaining accessible. 

I've seen it go very very bad very very quickly - people tend to be quite insane after the death of a loved one.


Can't they unfriend them? Or does that not work in some way (perhaps I am missing something)? I'm a bit sensitive on the issue as, when a loved one of mine died, someone had their profile taken down without my knowledge, and I would have preferred that not to happen.

I'll PM you on this one as soon as I have a few minutes.  It gets pretty complicated.  I'll try either this evening or tomorrow after church. :)
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The name of my wife, who died in Jan. 2010 (and had her account deactivated at that time), recently appeared on my facebook ???

« Last Edit: February 10, 2013, 07:33:10 AM by Asteriktos »
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Asteriktos, I dont see her name on the right. in the image.
I am sorry to her of her passing.

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I have it circled in red ;)  Thanks though :)
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Asterikos, I am extremely sorry about your wife. :(

We have had several students at school take their own lives, and their pages became memorials like this.  It seems as though the pages are run by their friends or parents, and the support from facebook "friends" is very beneficial for the grieving, as opposed to sentiments only from those the friends/family only see in their day-to-day lives.

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A friend of mine passed in 2011 and her name still shows up in lists sometimes. I guess the relatives didn't remove her profile. That's what I would do, though, for propriety's sake.
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