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Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« on: December 05, 2012, 04:56:41 AM »
Christ is risen!

Interestingly, Patriarch Alexius II died exactly 4 years ago.
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2012, 05:23:31 AM »
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I can't find the news in the media. Not even the Antiochian Orthodox site has the news.
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2012, 05:26:20 AM »
I can't find the news in the media. Not even the Antiochian Orthodox site has the news.

They are asleep? Time zones and stuff.

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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 05:26:34 AM »
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RIP Patriarch Ignatius IV Hazim
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2012, 05:30:17 AM »
Memory eternal!

I can't find the news in the media. Not even the Antiochian Orthodox site has the news.

I found this site in regards to the news
http://theorthodoxchurch.info/blog/news/2012/12/patriarch-hazim-passes-away-after-suffering-stroke/
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2012, 06:31:14 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2012, 06:46:57 AM »
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2012, 07:09:22 AM »
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2012, 07:36:50 AM »
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2012, 07:53:54 AM »
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2012, 08:45:02 AM »
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Sad news, especially for Orthodox Syrians in so difficult situation...

This year so many Orthodox patriarchs (both EO and OO) has died...
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2012, 08:54:04 AM »
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2012, 09:03:59 AM »
 :-[ This makes me so sad. eternal memory!
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2012, 09:13:51 AM »
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2012, 09:48:46 AM »
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2012, 09:50:21 AM »
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Two Orthodox Patriarchs in less than a month.
I thought it was three?

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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2012, 09:58:46 AM »
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2012, 10:23:21 AM »
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2012, 10:49:43 AM »
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2012, 11:59:29 AM »
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2012, 12:34:39 PM »
Here is some video of His Beatitude's body arriving at the church in Achrafieh Beirut, Lebanon.

http://www.facebook.com/v/304404053002905

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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2012, 03:19:45 PM »
I told my wife, who wrote:

"Oh this is not good. Not good at all. That community needs a strong leader to protect them now. Wow!"

My response: Maybe he's in a place where he can protect them more today than he was able to do before.

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« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2012, 03:38:59 PM »
I told my wife, who wrote:

"Oh this is not good. Not good at all. That community needs a strong leader to protect them now. Wow!"

My response: Maybe he's in a place where he can protect them more today than he was able to do before.


Amen.
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2012, 03:42:18 PM »
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2012, 03:54:36 PM »
Wow, Pope Shenouda, Abuna Paoulos, Patriarch Maxim and now Patriarch Ignatius IV! Where God closes one door, he opens another. I can not help but think that all of the shifting which is now taking place is somehow auspicious for the times we are in. Even the OCA has a new Metropolitan.
I wonder what is coming down the road which would require new commanders in the ranks.

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« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2012, 04:20:26 PM »
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2012, 07:48:24 PM »
I told my wife, who wrote:

"Oh this is not good. Not good at all. That community needs a strong leader to protect them now. Wow!"

My response: Maybe he's in a place where he can protect them more today than he was able to do before.


Amen.

Amen, amen.

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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2012, 12:06:11 AM »
wow and in such a time as this
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2012, 12:31:59 AM »
Wow, Pope Shenouda, Abuna Paoulos, Patriarch Maxim and now Patriarch Ignatius IV! Where God closes one door, he opens another. I can not help but think that all of the shifting which is now taking place is somehow auspicious for the times we are in. Even the OCA has a new Metropolitan.
I wonder what is coming down the road which would require new commanders in the ranks.

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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2012, 03:46:24 AM »
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« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2012, 05:06:29 AM »
May the memory of the Lord's servant, the High Priest Ignatius, be eternal!
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« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2012, 10:56:16 AM »
may the Lord repose his soul and comfort his children.

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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2012, 11:58:31 AM »
http://araborthodoxy.blogspot.com/2012/12/how-patriarchate-of-antioch-elects-new.html
How the Patriarchate of Antioch Elects a New Patriarch

Thanks for this. Very interesting.

Does anyone know how many eligible metropolitans the Church of Antioch has? I'm interested to know how big the pool of candidates is.

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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2012, 12:07:07 PM »
Lord, have mercy! Memory eternal.


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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2012, 04:08:49 PM »
http://araborthodoxy.blogspot.com/2012/12/how-patriarchate-of-antioch-elects-new.html
How the Patriarchate of Antioch Elects a New Patriarch

Thanks for this. Very interesting.

Does anyone know how many eligible metropolitans the Church of Antioch has? I'm interested to know how big the pool of candidates is.

I believe under the by-laws as set forth, there are 14 eligible candidates out of the 28 or so Bishops in the Patriarchate. Metropolitan Philip is the only one who is eligible for election from the Bishops in North America because he is the only one who has participated on the Synod in an official manner.
It should also be pointed out that Metropolitan Philip of New York is the senior most bishop on the Synod.

Metropolitan Ephriam of Tripoli was thought to be a possible candidate in the future, but he is not eligible as of yet. 
 
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« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2012, 04:54:02 PM »
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2012, 06:07:22 PM »
The delegation of the Oriental (Syriac) Orthodox "Church of Antioch"  paying respects and offering prayers for H.B Ignatius IV, the Late Patriarch of the Eastern (Greek) Orthodox "Church of Antioch".
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2012, 08:55:07 PM »
http://araborthodoxy.blogspot.com/2012/12/how-patriarchate-of-antioch-elects-new.html
How the Patriarchate of Antioch Elects a New Patriarch

Thanks for this. Very interesting.

Does anyone know how many eligible metropolitans the Church of Antioch has? I'm interested to know how big the pool of candidates is.

I believe under the by-laws as set forth, there are 14 eligible candidates out of the 28 or so Bishops in the Patriarchate. Metropolitan Philip is the only one who is eligible for election from the Bishops in North America because he is the only one who has participated on the Synod in an official manner.
It should also be pointed out that Metropolitan Philip of New York is the senior most bishop on the Synod.

Metropolitan Ephriam of Tripoli was thought to be a possible candidate in the future, but he is not eligible as of yet. 
 

Hmm, would Metropolitan Philip be considered a viable candidate an would he accept?

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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2012, 09:35:49 PM »
Metropolitan Phillip is ailing.  His public schedule is quite restricted of late; recall that he didn't attend the ACOB meeting this year.  I think he has ceased attending sessions of the Holy Synod at this point.  No doubt he would not be able to fulfill Patriarchal responsibilities at this time.  I wonder if he'll even be able to attend His Beatitude's funeral and the Synod meeting, not-with-standing his desire to participate.  My guess, if these circumstances existed 5 years ago, he'd have lobbied hard for it, and I'd bet he'd have had a dynamic tenure if he'd been elected.  Based on the way the demotion of the AOCANA's bishops to auxiliaries situation manifested itself, the Synod was close to evenly split over supporting him; I don't know if anything has changed much since in this regard.
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2012, 09:38:24 PM »
Lord have mercy.  :'(
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« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2012, 12:17:40 AM »
No doubt he would not be able to fulfill Patriarchal responsibilities at this time.  I wonder if he'll even be able to attend His Beatitude's funeral and the Synod meeting, not-with-standing his desire to participate. 

I think he would disagree with you. My guess is he would tell you being Patriarch is easier then being the Archbishop of North America.

Also, I believe you will see him present and participating.
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2012, 12:23:56 AM »
Hmm, would Metropolitan Philip be considered a viable candidate an would he accept?
I'm not sure how I would feel about this...

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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #47 on: December 07, 2012, 07:01:30 AM »
Metropolitan Savva of Bosra became the locum tenens.

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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #49 on: December 07, 2012, 08:41:08 AM »
Hmm, would Metropolitan Philip be considered a viable candidate an would he accept?
I'm not sure how I would feel about this...
I'd be very happy about it, but I dont think he'd accept.

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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #50 on: December 07, 2012, 09:46:04 AM »
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #51 on: December 07, 2012, 03:02:49 PM »
The delegation of the Oriental (Syriac) Orthodox "Church of Antioch"  paying respects and offering prayers for H.B Ignatius IV, the Late Patriarch of the Eastern (Greek) Orthodox "Church of Antioch".

thanks for posting this photo.
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #52 on: December 07, 2012, 03:20:45 PM »
Archbishop Joseph Leads Delegation to Middle East for Funeral of Patriarch Ignatius IV
http://www.antiochian.org/content/archbishop-joseph-leads-delegation-middle-east-funeral-patriarch-ignatius-iv

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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #53 on: December 07, 2012, 10:03:29 PM »
No doubt he would not be able to fulfill Patriarchal responsibilities at this time.  I wonder if he'll even be able to attend His Beatitude's funeral and the Synod meeting, not-with-standing his desire to participate.  

I think he would disagree with you. My guess is he would tell you being Patriarch is easier then being the Archbishop of North America.

Also, I believe you will see him present and participating.

Archbishop Joseph of Los Angeles is leading the AOCANA delegation to the funeral of His Beatitude.
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #54 on: December 08, 2012, 03:18:55 AM »
The young Patriarch.




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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #55 on: December 09, 2012, 10:57:18 AM »
The funeral liturgy at St. Nicholas Orthodox Church, Achrafieh, Beirut:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NxD_2RQuFo
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #56 on: December 09, 2012, 11:16:05 AM »
The funeral service presided by Patriarch Bartholomew with the Orthodox delegations and the Holy Synod of Antioch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG4n1bCnUu8

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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #57 on: December 09, 2012, 05:09:01 PM »
ag_vn, thank you for sharing all the materials

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P-WlSv0oYY coffin with the patriarch's body in Damascus
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #58 on: December 09, 2012, 05:23:36 PM »
How is a new Patriarch chosen once the last has died?
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #59 on: December 09, 2012, 05:30:50 PM »
How is a new Patriarch chosen once the last has died?
There's a link earlier in the thread, reply # 32 I think.
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #60 on: December 09, 2012, 06:46:20 PM »
Memory eternal!!
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #61 on: December 09, 2012, 09:57:27 PM »
We prayed for His Beatitude's blessed repose with a Trisagion Service in my church this morning.
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #62 on: December 10, 2012, 03:31:25 PM »
www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9MiNjeXMI4 - last night in Damascus, patriarchal cathedral. That's so beautiful, singing Paschal hymns and candles... To not forget, that Christ is risen!

And video from the burial: www.youtube.com/watch?v=osK3Zb6rCQ0
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #63 on: December 13, 2012, 10:48:43 PM »
The election for the new patriarch will take place on Monday at the Balamand Monastery in Lebanon.
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #64 on: December 13, 2012, 11:24:09 PM »
Memory Eternal! Blessed repose!

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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #65 on: December 14, 2012, 04:11:06 AM »
The election for the new patriarch will take place on Monday at the Balamand Monastery in Lebanon.

This Monday?

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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #66 on: December 14, 2012, 08:53:07 AM »
The election for the new patriarch will take place on Monday at the Balamand Monastery in Lebanon.

This Monday?

Yes, Monday, December 17, 2012.
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Re: Patriarch Ignatius IV has died
« Reply #67 on: December 15, 2012, 09:19:34 PM »
I will take a break from my posting hiatus and say memory eternal!

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