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Asperger's Dropped From Revised Diagnosis Manual
« on: December 01, 2012, 11:08:28 PM »
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The now familiar term "Asperger's disorder" is being dropped. And abnormally bad and frequent temper tantrums will be given a scientific-sounding diagnosis called DMDD. But "dyslexia" and other learning disorders remain.
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One of the most hotly argued changes was how to define the various ranges of autism. Some advocates opposed the idea of dropping the specific diagnosis for Asperger's disorder. People with that disorder often have high intelligence and vast knowledge on narrow subjects but lack social skills. Some who have the condition embrace their quirkiness and vow to continue to use the label.
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The new manual adds the term "autism spectrum disorder," which already is used by many experts in the field. Asperger's disorder will be dropped and incorporated under that umbrella diagnosis. The new category will include kids with severe autism, who often don't talk or interact, as well as those with milder forms.
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Re: Asperger's Dropped From Revised Diagnosis Manual
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2012, 01:09:51 AM »
I feel like this is a big step backward. :(
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Re: Asperger's Dropped From Revised Diagnosis Manual
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2012, 06:39:34 AM »
I feel like this is a big step backward. :(

Really? I don't think so. The government tried to diagnose me more than once with aspergers. That was nasty. Luckily they could never put me away like they wanted to.
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Re: Asperger's Dropped From Revised Diagnosis Manual
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2012, 06:45:21 AM »
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Re: Asperger's Dropped From Revised Diagnosis Manual
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2012, 08:18:27 AM »
I feel like this is a big step backward. :(

How so? I am interested in your perspective.
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Re: Asperger's Dropped From Revised Diagnosis Manual
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2012, 04:54:49 AM »
This isn't really anything new. Asperger's was always just one 'disorder' on the autistic spectrum as anyone who's studied abnormal/clinical psychology will know. Now if only the whole psychological community would go the whole hog and start looking at and treating specific symptoms and their causes rather than trying to parcel everything up into spurious syndromes we might get somewhere. The medical model is really not the best approach to take to psychological problems, the 'illness' known as schizophrenia being the perfect example of why this is so.

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Re: Asperger's Dropped From Revised Diagnosis Manual
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2012, 04:59:28 AM »
This isn't really anything new. Asperger's was always just one 'disorder' on the autistic spectrum as anyone who's studied abnormal/clinical psychology will know. Now if only the whole psychological community would go the whole hog and start looking at and treating specific symptoms and their causes rather than trying to parcel everything up into spurious syndromes we might get somewhere. The medical model is really not the best approach to take to psychological problems, the 'illness' known as schizophrenia being the perfect example of why this is so.

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As I understand ADHD, Asperger's, and Autism are on the same spectrum. One of my friends has Asperger's. Her brain does not work quite like the majority. She would never get put away for it. I think it is good that she can have a diagnosis that makes sense of how her brain works differently.
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Re: Asperger's Dropped From Revised Diagnosis Manual
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2012, 05:06:37 AM »
Compulsive hoarding has been added as a seperate disorder, previously it was grouped with OCD.
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Re: Asperger's Dropped From Revised Diagnosis Manual
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2012, 05:40:32 AM »
This isn't really anything new. Asperger's was always just one 'disorder' on the autistic spectrum as anyone who's studied abnormal/clinical psychology will know. Now if only the whole psychological community would go the whole hog and start looking at and treating specific symptoms and their causes rather than trying to parcel everything up into spurious syndromes we might get somewhere. The medical model is really not the best approach to take to psychological problems, the 'illness' known as schizophrenia being the perfect example of why this is so.

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As I understand ADHD, Asperger's, and Autism are on the same spectrum. One of my friends has Asperger's. Her brain does not work quite like the majority. She would never get put away for it. I think it is good that she can have a diagnosis that makes sense of how her brain works differently.

My point was that the difference between two different people on the autistic spectrum is a difference of degree not a difference of kind. Many of the 'disorders' so beloved of things like the DSM are nothing more than convenient (often less than useful) groupings of symptoms - they're not illnesses in themselves in any meaningful sense. This is most clearly seen with something like schizophrenia where two patients can manifest such radically different symptoms that there is absolutely no common ground between their illnesses, but it's also certainly the case that Asperger's was never anything more than a convenient grouping within a continuous spectrum of autistic symptoms. This is not new thinking - I was being taught this back in the mid-90s - it just appears as though the diagnostic manuals might finally be catching up in some, though clearly not all, areas.

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Re: Asperger's Dropped From Revised Diagnosis Manual
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2012, 11:55:56 AM »
This isn't really anything new. Asperger's was always just one 'disorder' on the autistic spectrum as anyone who's studied abnormal/clinical psychology will know. Now if only the whole psychological community would go the whole hog and start looking at and treating specific symptoms and their causes rather than trying to parcel everything up into spurious syndromes we might get somewhere. The medical model is really not the best approach to take to psychological problems, the 'illness' known as schizophrenia being the perfect example of why this is so.

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As I understand ADHD, Asperger's, and Autism are on the same spectrum. One of my friends has Asperger's. Her brain does not work quite like the majority. She would never get put away for it. I think it is good that she can have a diagnosis that makes sense of how her brain works differently.

My point was that the difference between two different people on the autistic spectrum is a difference of degree not a difference of kind. Many of the 'disorders' so beloved of things like the DSM are nothing more than convenient (often less than useful) groupings of symptoms - they're not illnesses in themselves in any meaningful sense. This is most clearly seen with something like schizophrenia where two patients can manifest such radically different symptoms that there is absolutely no common ground between their illnesses, but it's also certainly the case that Asperger's was never anything more than a convenient grouping within a continuous spectrum of autistic symptoms. This is not new thinking - I was being taught this back in the mid-90s - it just appears as though the diagnostic manuals might finally be catching up in some, though clearly not all, areas.

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I think in the case of Asperger's, DSM IV was useful. It was a step in the right direction.
The prior diagnosis for higher functioning autism in DSM III was 299.80: Pervasive developmental disorder NOS. This particular term results in the denial of medical insurance coverage. The term Asperger's clearly places the condition within the autistic spectrum.

Just my opinion.